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Missed it too, they all seem to be on this site:
http://www.matchhighlight.com/latest-goals/england/premier-league/liverpool-v-norwich-city-4/
That 1st goal will be a contender for goal of the month but I loved the 3rd it was fantastic
To me 3rd > 1st (just).
Yea, there's nothing sexier than a controlled half volley like that and the little bit of skill before... 👍
I've just got back in so if this comes across as cranky or moany, apologies. We were not very good tonight against a side who were simply not very good. Suarez clearly is a football genius and I'll happily allow him any superlatives as those 4 goals were just exceptional. But here are my moans: 1. Stop fucking fancying about at the back with little triangles with the keeper and putting him under pressure. We will concede o this stupidity very soon. 2. Glen Johnson. Would you mind awfully providing a ball of quality into the box after you've beaten the first man and can you not come inside and drift across the front of the box, from right to left, aimlessly lose the ball and then jog back as the opposition counter in the gaping hole you've just left! 3. Raheem, you haven't got a left foot, so don't keep cutting inside it and work on your decision making. Ie you went outside when it was better to come inside and vice versa. Well done on the goal. 4. Joe Allen - good job Suarez scored 3 in the first half to give you a platform, because you looked a bg of nerves. I'm being a bit churlish but once again, the brilliance of Suarez papered over the cracks. I mean it's a good job he's doing but we are so reliant on him it's madness. There was minimal invention or creation, and Suarez created two of those goals from nothing. We had very few other chances. Sleep time now!
Agree with most of that other than the chances created part, Gerrard Allen and Alberto all had decent efforts along with Sterlings goal. Its hard to gauge a teams performance when the game is put to bed so early, particularly when the opposition is that lifeless. Im surprised Gerrard wasnt rested for the last half an hour given the fixture pile up in the next 3 weeks.
Also Raheem seems to have spent too much time with GlenJo, if something doesnt work the first 3 times he will still have a go at it the 4th time. Its excusable although frustrating in a kid like Sterling, with Johnson it just smacks of laziness. I dont think he has added anything to his game in the 5 seasons hes been with us, hes still great at the same things and still awful at the same things as he was when Chelsea decided he wasnt consistent enough.
To my mind Agger has the same problem as Johnson, hes a reactive defender, in that he doesnt read the dangerous play before it happens and cut it out, he reacts after the danger has become apparent. This is often the case with quick defenders as an extra yard of pace can bale you out of difficulties that a player who reads the game well wouldnt get into. Basically Agger didnt expect the cross to come in so he didnt get tight to the attacker, by the time the ball is in the air hes too far away to react effectively. Johnson usually does exactly the same thing, never puts himself in a position to deal with danger without having to make a last ditch tackle. Both of them are too old to be making these mistakes so consistently, learning to read the game and nullify a threat before it happens is the hallmark of a good experienced defender. Neither Agger or Johnson do this well enough.
I missed the game last night (03.45 start is not conducive to a good sleep) but with Coutinho it's not all about his defence splitting passes & assists (though I'd like a few more this season please) but how he carries the ball forward when no-one else can. He regularly skips past 1 or 2 defenders and all of a sudden a defence that has looked firm and well organised goes into panic mode, so even just laying the ball off at that stage he has still created space and an opportunity. With him out of the team this is very obvious to see as we flail away and punt long balls.
True but without his killer final pass we can be very ineffective, I think hes been pretty lukewarm this season. Hes had a couple of good games and some very mediocre ones but no stand out performances for me. He definitely gives us an extra dimension in our attacking play but hes most effective when we have time and space on the ball, against teams that defend in numbers and pressure the ball carrier he has gone missing. He either needs to find another gear or we need to have differerent options to open up different teams
I agree, Coutinho's ball-carrying ability does give us something different and perhaps I could even say he's improved in that aspect this season somewhat. But all this useful build-up action will not result in goals unless there is a precise pass at the end of it, and at the moment Coutinho still can't get his timing right. What Coutinho did so magnificently last season was creating clear-cut chances for his teammates and so far this season I can't remember any such actions from him. I don't want to be harsh on him at all; he is probably my favorite player in this team, he is very young and some inconsistency is to be expected. But from the team's perspective, the fact remains that our only playmaker doesn't have any assists this season and is not creating chances for his teammates with any regularity. That's a bit of a problem.
Not at all, actually. Sure, we didn't create anything until the score was 3:0 - Suarez made the result almost by himself. But in the 2nd half we had several good chances we couldn't convert, particularly a great shot from outside the area by Allen (Ruddy made a flying save), Sterling's miss in a 4 against 2 counter (should have passed to a teammate), Gerrard acrobatically touching the ball onto the post, another Gerrard shot that fizzed just wide and a close-range Suarez shot that Ruddy saved. Theoretically it could have been 8:0, even though Norwich looked decent and didn't make many obvious mistakes.
Norwich created almost nothing - it's disappointing we couldn't hold a clean sheet.
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It was a weird game. We didn't play that well did we, but what does it matter when perhaps one of the most talented goal-scorers - on his day at least - ever, is wearing a red shirt.
You will simply struggle to see a better performance by a striker when it comes to scoring that amount of great goals in one game only. It's not like he got splendid support or anything, he just created it all himself more or less (apart from his 2nd).
As has been said well annoying we didn't keep a clean sheet here, would have been good for confidence at least.
It was Agger's man that scored their goal and he was let down by his lack of awareness. Of course Johnson should've done better too.
I had a feeling it could happen, he started out great imo, almost not setting a foot wrong but then he, as many before him, started to tire too soon imo. He was maybe pushed when their captain headed over, but it was also not a great bit of defending and about the time he started to look tired.
I still hope Rodgers does the right thing and keep the defensive line intact for West Ham, after all it wasn't the most pivotal of goals conceded and it would actually be nice to see if they could find back to the form of the United game in particular.
You will simply struggle to see a better performance by a striker when it comes to scoring that amount of great goals in one game only. It's not like he got splendid support or anything, he just created it all himself more or less (apart from his 2nd).
As has been said well annoying we didn't keep a clean sheet here, would have been good for confidence at least.
It was Agger's man that scored their goal and he was let down by his lack of awareness. Of course Johnson should've done better too.
I had a feeling it could happen, he started out great imo, almost not setting a foot wrong but then he, as many before him, started to tire too soon imo. He was maybe pushed when their captain headed over, but it was also not a great bit of defending and about the time he started to look tired.
I still hope Rodgers does the right thing and keep the defensive line intact for West Ham, after all it wasn't the most pivotal of goals conceded and it would actually be nice to see if they could find back to the form of the United game in particular.
You and your constant negativity. I dunno...
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It was Skrtel and Agger against United wasn't it?
Yup, Jamie Redknapp's ratings: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-United-0-Jamie-Redknapps-player-ratings.html
I thought they could have scored a couple - we were a bit shakey in defence and they didn't play that badly, however, this was the first time in a long while we were better in the second half and could have scored even more. Helps if you are 3 nil up I suppose.
Just checked, it was.
Honestly couldn't remember who partnered Skrtel
But I agree with you over last night, Agger was our second best defender (flanno was surprisingly boss), dominated early on, but last 10/20 minutes began to wane
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Flannagan has really taken his chance, however I am still not convinced that he's good enough in the longer run as he looks so weak going forward. Depends on how we'll set up I guess, but with such a defensive left back you'd need more creativity on the pitch than we had last night to make things happen - unless of course Suarez plays like ZEUS!
I've heard this a lot but having watched that goal (from multiple angles) I really don't see how Johnson/Sterling could take any blame for the cross coming in. The ball went wide, Johnson & Sterling readjusted and started moving to the man, he took one touch and then crossed it. Not really much time for anyone to close him down without just rushing in - then if the winger had skipped past him we'd be saying he shouldn't have dived in. All in all it was just a really well worked goal and for once I don't even see much wrong with Agger's part in it .... sometimes you just have to give credit to the oppostion.
Johnson did not move to the man, or even indicate that he was going to try to
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I actually also thought it was a quite good goal, crisp cross and good header.
Flanagan is a right back normally but played left back last night. He's limited enough going forward on the right so he was never going to add anything down the left yesterday. Anyway, it reminded me of Carragher who, if I remember correctly, was also very limited in his attacking capabilities as a young right back. In fact, he couldn't even play the ball without taking a touch or two to settle the ball down and make sure it was hardly moving before he hoofed it up field. At 20, there's plenty of time for Flanagan to improve under the right manager, similar to the way Ged transformed Carragher.
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I'd be very very surprised to see Flanno turning into a CB otherwise good, optimistic post Tal.
I didn't say anything about him becoming a centreback. I just said he could be transformed as he's only 20 and appears to have the right attitude, which may include a little extra desire, being a local lad.
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