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I'm of the opinion we should go for a young, hungry manager who plays attractive football and has a solid long term plan. someone who will grow as we grow. I am coming around to guillem balague's suggestion - Quique Sanchez Flores, or rijkaard.
sure new owners may come in and want their own man but that may be a year away.
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I wouldn't be against giving Quique the job
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Based on what, exactly?
 
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I'm of the opinion we should go for a young, hungry manager who plays attractive football and has a solid long term plan. someone who will grow as we grow. I am coming around to guillem balague's suggestion - Quique Sanchez Flores, or rijkaard.
sure new owners may come in and want their own man but that may be a year away.
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I wouldn't be against giving Quique the job
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Based on what, exactly?
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Well for a young manager he's got quite a reasonable amount of experience (Europe/Big clubs) + In the short time he's been at AM (who are in a even bigger mess than us) he's done a very good job.

Who is your preferred choice then Bunny?
 
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I'm of the opinion we should go for a young, hungry manager who plays attractive football and has a solid long term plan. someone who will grow as we grow. I am coming around to guillem balague's suggestion - Quique Sanchez Flores, or rijkaard.
sure new owners may come in and want their own man but that may be a year away.
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I wouldn't be against giving Quique the job
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Based on what, exactly?
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http://www.guillembalague.com/blog_desp.php?titulo=Liverpool+should+consider+Quique+Sanchez+Flores&id=458

Liverpool should consider Quique Sanchez Flores



So what`s next for Liverpool?

I`ve been receiving a lot of emails from readers on this site asking for my thoughts on who should replace Rafa Benitez at Anfield. I`ve got to be honest, it`s a scenario I didn`t really want to be speculating upon as my opinion that Rafa deserved a lot more credit for his work at Liverpool - and my belief that he should have been allowed to continue in the face of very difficult circumstances at the club - has been well documented throughout. My views have not changed on that matter.
But, if you are asking me for my personal opinion as to who would make a strong candidate to bring stability to the club, then I would have to suggest that Quique Sanchez Flores – the Atletico Madrid coach – ticks far more boxes than many other names out there, in my opinion. At 45 years of age he is a rare combination of youth and energy combined with experience (including at a big club, Valencia, where he oversaw two successive qualifications for the Champions League and took the club to a quarter final), he has experienced management overseas (Benfica), he is incredibly bright, is excellent in dealing with players and in building strong relationships, tactically very astute and – perhaps most importantly – is very good at turning things around, as he has done at Atletico Madrid. He would have no problem working with Liverpool`s back room staff – many of whom are Spanish and, what Anfield needs right now is evolution not revolution on the playing side. He would understand the systems in place while introducing his own ideas that would enable Liverpool to play the typically non-English football style that the fans crave. And he also speaks English.


Sanchez Flores did agree a one-year extension to his contract at Atletico Madrid very recently, but the lure of taking charge at Liverpool would prove too strong to turn down.

You only have to look at the fantastic job he has done in a short space of time at Atletico to see that he has the credentials to solve many of Liverpool`s problems: he took charge at the Vicente Calderon on a short-term basis in October 2009, filling the vacancy created by Abel Resino`s sacking. He inherited a struggling, lethargic, inconsistent club punching well below their weight with the threat of relegation on the horizon and was able to oversee a remarkable reversal in fortune, restoring belief and consistency to the side.
Atletico ended up reaching two cup finals under his guidance: ironically, beating both Liverpool and Fulham (Roy Hodgson another name linked with the Liverpool job) to win the Europa League, Atletico`s first major trophy since 1996.

and before anyone counters with 'that's fuck all', what exactly had wenger achieved prior to arsenal? a french title 9 years ago.
 
I get the impression that the antipathy to Hodgson in this thread is mainly down to the fact that he looks a bit old. His career record is outstanding.
 
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I get the impression that the antipathy to Hodgson in this thread is mainly down to the fact that he looks a bit old. His career record is outstanding.
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In Sweden
 
[quote author=Portly link=topic=40461.msg1114786#msg1114786 date=1275898349]
I get the impression that the antipathy to Hodgson in this thread is mainly down to the fact that he looks a bit old. His career record is outstanding.
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Is it?

I should add that Roy is one of my favourite options out of the names being mentioned.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=40461.msg1114761#msg1114761 date=1275896385]
I'm of the opinion we should go for a young, hungry manager who plays attractive football and has a solid long term plan. someone who will grow as we grow. I am coming around to guillem balague's suggestion - Quique Sanchez Flores, or rijkaard.
sure new owners may come in and want their own man but that may be a year away.
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I think you're way too relaxed about that last bit. Only a year - max, probably - to establish oneself before new owners come in, and quite possibly bring their own man with them? Not an attractive prospect IMO, and one of the reasons why Kenny should take the job until the ownership question is resolved.
 
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=40461.msg1114751#msg1114751 date=1275895413]
What about Deschamps? He rock anyone's world?
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He's a very good manager, and a possibility. Actually I'm surprised his name hasn't come up more often. It also helps that he speaks English and has played the game here.
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As I've said a few times, he'd certainly be one of my top choices, the other 2 being Van Gaal and Pellegrini.
 
There does seem a decent case for Flores but I don't generally value Balague's opinions that highly. Think of the media work in England he has seen slip away since Benitez got the boot. Obviously he wants someone else who is Spanish who he can present himself to be best buddies with
 
So much talk about new owners bringing in their man.

Well I think if the temp gaffa does well enough, there'd be no need to bring a new manager. A year may seem short but I think it should be enough to see what direction a manager is heading to under very tricky situation.
 
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=40461.msg1114761#msg1114761 date=1275896385]
I'm of the opinion we should go for a young, hungry manager who plays attractive football and has a solid long term plan. someone who will grow as we grow. I am coming around to guillem balague's suggestion - Quique Sanchez Flores, or rijkaard.
sure new owners may come in and want their own man but that may be a year away.
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I wouldn't be against giving Quique the job
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Based on what, exactly?
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Well for a young manager he's got quite a reasonable amount of experience (Europe/Big clubs) + In the short time he's been at AM (who are in a even bigger mess than us) he's done a very good job.

Who is your preferred choice then Bunny?


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Hodgson or Deschamps, I think, from those that have been mentioned in this thread.

I just fear getting another highly-rated young Spanish manager with no experience of the PL and an extremely ordinary league record is a recipe for disaster. Look at what happened with Ramos at Spurs...
 
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=40461.msg1114761#msg1114761 date=1275896385]
I'm of the opinion we should go for a young, hungry manager who plays attractive football and has a solid long term plan. someone who will grow as we grow. I am coming around to guillem balague's suggestion - Quique Sanchez Flores, or rijkaard.
sure new owners may come in and want their own man but that may be a year away.
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I wouldn't be against giving Quique the job
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Based on what, exactly?
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Well for a young manager he's got quite a reasonable amount of experience (Europe/Big clubs) + In the short time he's been at AM (who are in a even bigger mess than us) he's done a very good job.

Who is your preferred choice then Bunny?


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Hodgson or Deschamps, I think, from those that have been mentioned in this thread.

I just fear getting another highly-rated young Spanish manager with no experience of the PL and an extremely ordinary league record is a recipe for disaster. Look at what happened with Ramos at Spurs...
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I wouldn't be unhappy with either of those options.

Yeah i can understand your misgivings (i know it would be a gamble), i just think that if he appointed an experienced number two he could do a good job.
 
I'd go with the King. He knows the league, is greatly respected and more importantly, he knows the club. I am also of the belief that the club can't dick him around as he'll have the complete support of the Liverpool faithful, and for that reason, I'd doubt that they would be stupid enough to hire him.

At first I was like other posters almost anyone but Dalglish, but the more i thought about it, the more sense it makes. Good managers don't become bad managers and his record is impeccable.
 
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and his record is impeccable.
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at liverpool.
you're going to counter he'll 'BE' at liverpool aren't you? 😉

heh heh
 
Apparantly our new mana.... sry... Michael Laudrup reckons Daniel Agger will become a world beater.

From the official:

"I coached him at Brondby when I was manager a few years ago," Laudrup said.

"He came directly from the youth team and you could see right from the beginning that he had great potential. I wasn't surprised when he went to Liverpool.

"If he can stay fit then I think he can definitely be one of the best central defenders in the game. Liverpool have had many great defenders in the past. Daniel is a very good player and if he can play at a high level in the next few years, then maybe you will be talking about him in the same breath."

I've decided that the Laudrup-connection on the official is not a co-incidence and he's in indeed in advanced talk with Dalglish over the vacant manager-seat.

That way the club and Laudrup would indeed be united as they shoud've been back in the 80s where only a last minute change of mind of the Liverpool-board ruined negotiations.

(We offered Michael Laudrup a three year deal worth X ammount of money back then but on the the final day of the negotiations the contract were suddenly running over 4 years instead, without any increase in the agreed ammount of X however, why he choosed to leave Liverpool in the 11th hour without putting pen to paper).

And that's how the cookie crumbles....
 
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I get the impression that the antipathy to Hodgson in this thread is mainly down to the fact that he looks a bit old. His career record is outstanding.
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In Sweden
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Actually in all of Scandinavia...

*woohoo*

I'm not at all convinced he's the right choice, but probably the best British shout there is.
 
Manager: Michael Laudrup
Assistant manager: Jamie Carragher
King: Kenny







[move]W00p there it is.... w000p there it is... [/move]
 
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Manager: Michael Laudrup
Assistant manager: Jamie Carragher
King: Kenny

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*sold*
 
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Manager: Michael Laudrup
Assistant manager: Jamie Carragher
King: Kenny

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*sold*
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Just because you don't like the idea there's no reason to actually sell me...

*I'm not even sure RAWK could afford me anyways..
 
Just because you don't like the idea there's no reason to actually sell me...

*I'm not even sure RAWK could afford me anyways..

I like the idea a lot more than some of the alternatives
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40461.msg1114987#msg1114987 date=1275914225]
Just because you don't like the idea there's no reason to actually sell me...

*I'm not even sure RAWK could afford me anyways..

I like the idea a lot more than some of the alternatives
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I'm pleasantly surprised then... cheers mate.
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=40461.msg1114999#msg1114999 date=1275915208]
Has Laudrup won *anything* as a manager?
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He's won my heart
 
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Has Laudrup won *anything* as a manager?
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He's won my heart
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Brendan has someone stolen your login? Where is the cantakerous mo-fo of old?

'He's won my fucking heart'......indeed.
 
[quote author=reuque link=topic=40461.msg1114815#msg1114815 date=1275900130]
So much talk about new owners bringing in their man.

Well I think if the temp gaffa does well enough, there'd be no need to bring a new manager. A year may seem short but I think it should be enough to see what direction a manager is heading to under very tricky situation.
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That's all very well, but if you were a good candidate for the job (as opposed to the solid but hardly outstanding candidates from outside the club who are currently being mentioned) you might see things rather differently.
 
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Has Laudrup won *anything* as a manager?
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As Roy Hodgson, the Danish Superleague, with Brondby and the Danish Cup twice. (That's really not that impressive truth to be told).

Otherwise no, not really.

Took Getafe to the semis in the UEFA Cup in his first (and only year there) where they got knocked out on two very late injurytime goals by Bayern Münich. They got beaten in the Copa del Rey final same year by Valencia.

He quit the job after one Season and then rumours sparked about both Real and Barca beeing interested. Nothing really happened and now he's just waiting for the right job I reckon.

It would be a gamble but one we should be ready to take at this stage in my opinion. We need to shuffle the deck at least.
 
I don't agree. Letting a manager go, while looking for new owners at the same time, are all the gambling we need at one go, and then some. Give the King the job till new owners arrive, and decide the long-term future then.
 
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[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=40461.msg1114999#msg1114999 date=1275915208]
Has Laudrup won *anything* as a manager?
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As Roy Hodgson, the Danish Superleague, with Brondby and the Danish Cup twice. (That's really not that impressive truth to be told).

Otherwise no, not really.

Took Getafe to the semis in the UEFA Cup in his first (and only year there) where they got knocked out on two very late injurytime goals by Bayern Münich. They got beaten in the Copa del Rey final same year by Valencia.

He quit the job after one Season and then rumours sparked about both Real and Barca beeing interested. Nothing really happened and now he's just waiting for the right job I reckon.

It would be a gamble but one we should be ready to take at this stage in my opinion. We need to shuffle the deck at least.


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Didnt he manage in Russia for a couple of months and get sacked?

I would prefer him over some of the names we are being linked to. He got some real kudos and positive press for the way he managed Getafe. I also remember watching a game of Getafe in that UEFA cup run and was pretty impressed by the quality of football.
 
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[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=40461.msg1114999#msg1114999 date=1275915208]
Has Laudrup won *anything* as a manager?
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As Roy Hodgson, the Danish Superleague, with Brondby and the Danish Cup twice. (That's really not that impressive truth to be told).

Otherwise no, not really.

Took Getafe to the semis in the UEFA Cup in his first (and only year there) where they got knocked out on two very late injurytime goals by Bayern Münich. They got beaten in the Copa del Rey final same year by Valencia.

He quit the job after one Season and then rumours sparked about both Real and Barca beeing interested. Nothing really happened and now he's just waiting for the right job I reckon.

It would be a gamble but one we should be ready to take at this stage in my opinion. We need to shuffle the deck at least.


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Didnt he manage in Russia for a couple of months and get sacked?

I would prefer him over some of the names we are being linked to. He got some real kudos and positive press for the way he managed Getafe. I also remember watching a game of Getafe in that UEFA cup run and was pretty impressed by the quality of football.


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I was going to say the same thing. Spartak Moscow maybe?

He has done nothing to prove he is good enough but I guess at least SOMEONE would be happy and he might not cost very much so why not
 
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[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=40461.msg1114999#msg1114999 date=1275915208]
Has Laudrup won *anything* as a manager?
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As Roy Hodgson, the Danish Superleague, with Brondby and the Danish Cup twice. (That's really not that impressive truth to be told).

Otherwise no, not really.

Took Getafe to the semis in the UEFA Cup in his first (and only year there) where they got knocked out on two very late injurytime goals by Bayern Münich. They got beaten in the Copa del Rey final same year by Valencia.

He quit the job after one Season and then rumours sparked about both Real and Barca beeing interested. Nothing really happened and now he's just waiting for the right job I reckon.

It would be a gamble but one we should be ready to take at this stage in my opinion. We need to shuffle the deck at least.


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Didnt he manage in Russia for a couple of months and get sacked?

I would prefer him over some of the names we are being linked to. He got some real kudos and positive press for the way he managed Getafe. I also remember watching a game of Getafe in that UEFA cup run and was pretty impressed by the quality of football.


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I was going to say the same thing. Spartak Moscow maybe?

He has done nothing to prove he is good enough but I guess at least SOMEONE would be happy and he might not cost very much so why not
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He was in Russia for a few months without any succes at all.

He's been very tight lipped on the whole saga afterwards but at one point people close to him were claiming that some of the older heads in the board decided who to buy, who to play and where to play them and he got fed up with the system within no time and then sacked.

It was all very strange and seemingly a very wrong decision of him to go there in the first place.
 
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