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[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=43934.msg1274257#msg1274257 date=1296562509]
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=43934.msg1274158#msg1274158 date=1296559888]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=43934.msg1274152#msg1274152 date=1296559434]
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=43934.msg1274140#msg1274140 date=1296559172]
When I said that the owners backing Kenny to the hilt in the transfer market confirms that he'll get the permanent appointment, someone said not necessarily and its a bit premature. I stand by my summation.
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That someone was me, and so do I.
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JJ, let's see who buys who a pint? Deal ;D
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I'd prefer a glass of S.African Cabernet Sauvignon, but a pint of beer is fine. ;D
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Uuugghhh. I would have hoped that you would have more respect for your liver than to do that. 😱


If you've got the choice of wines and you don't take something from the Coonawarra then one can only conclude you have sadistic tendancies. 😀
 
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=43934.msg1273068#msg1273068 date=1296511775]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=43934.msg1273057#msg1273057 date=1296511565]
How will i look an arse? Im responding to what we have seen here.
We have a director of football who is apparantly hot shit.
We needed a LB, DM, LM, RM, CF and maybe a CB. You agree?
We also sold a winger, a CF a LB.

Given the months we had to assess our needs and find replacements we have come up with
Luis Suarez a forward.
Great. Fine. We needed that.
Torres walking out meant we needed another forward. Great we got one.

And thats where we are this window.
Weve spent 2m quid and are still short of a LB, DM, LM, RM as we were 4 months ago when Comolli came in.

Maybe in summer we invest massively and sort this mess out but here and now we still have Poulsen in CM, Jovanovic at LM, Kuyt at RM, Kelly at RB, Johnson at LB etc etc.
We havnt dont very well at all.
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And it's January window. Considering that and we've been fucked over by Torres we've done extremely well. People have been like Torres and expect overnight miracles and throw a stroppy one because it's not happened.

I think we've done well CONSIDERING. You haven't. I'll leave it there
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After reading the entire thread I'll come back to this post.

In the cold light of day the rational ones all knew that NESV were right in their summation that there was some serious problems with the clubs operations. It was sound business sense and should have been encouraging for those who loved the club. The only issue was that we feared it would be used as reasoning against improving the team which was, after all, something we all desperately wanted.

The circumspect warned against thinking that we'd do any spending in January; it's historically a bad window to do business, NESV were still coming to grips with problems from the previous regime and the managerial post was far from sorted. Then we bid a net 44m in the window and people are complaining that NESV didn't prove anything. Astonishing.

We're a successful club, our owners are operating like we're a successful club (not a flash in the pan, oil rich playboy with little business sense). They're not going to make stupid offers which will hamstring us in future windows nor get players at any cost and so create a rod for their back in the future. What they have done is show clearly that they will pay good money if the player is right, the other party aren't idiots and that they'll do so in a sound, sensible business manner.

I said in another post that I truly think they've shown the approach that will take us in a straight line to the summit. I also think we'll find ourselves competing with Spurs to do this. Chelsea aren't equipped to handle the new guidelines when they come in, City are even less capable of doing so, the mancs have got an enormous problem when Fergie finally gives it away. Spurs have been a similarly well run club in the manner to which NESV appear to be managing us. They've been doing it for a couple of years longer, are very well placed for the new guidelines and already reaping some success.

I think, in two years, we will be competing with Spurs at the top of the table. The edge we'll have is that no matter how well run they have been for the last couple of years they will never have the name to compete with Liverpool.

PS. I can't quite bring myself to discount united and arsenal completely so maybe they'll be in the mix as well. :-\
 
[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=43934.msg1275237#msg1275237 date=1296617448]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=43934.msg1274257#msg1274257 date=1296562509]
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=43934.msg1274158#msg1274158 date=1296559888]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=43934.msg1274152#msg1274152 date=1296559434]
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=43934.msg1274140#msg1274140 date=1296559172]
When I said that the owners backing Kenny to the hilt in the transfer market confirms that he'll get the permanent appointment, someone said not necessarily and its a bit premature. I stand by my summation.
[/quote]

That someone was me, and so do I.
[/quote]

JJ, let's see who buys who a pint? Deal ;D
[/quote]



I'd prefer a glass of S.African Cabernet Sauvignon, but a pint of beer is fine. ;D
[/quote]



Uuugghhh. I would have hoped that you would have more respect for your liver than to do that. 😱


If you've got the choice of wines and you don't take something from the Coonawarra then one can only conclude you have sadistic tendancies. 😀
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Well, it was a nod to Roland's nationality, and the Western Cape does have some lovely wines 😛, but Coonawarra is always welcome too. That said, given a free worldwide choice I'd go for neither, but for something from the Valle Central in Chile. Cab Sav is my absolute favourite (and coincidentally happens to have the highest concentration of anti-carcinogens of any grape type), and the best Cab Sav from Chile is the best I've ever had.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=43934.msg1275338#msg1275338 date=1296640796]
[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=43934.msg1275237#msg1275237 date=1296617448]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=43934.msg1274257#msg1274257 date=1296562509]
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=43934.msg1274158#msg1274158 date=1296559888]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=43934.msg1274152#msg1274152 date=1296559434]
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=43934.msg1274140#msg1274140 date=1296559172]
When I said that the owners backing Kenny to the hilt in the transfer market confirms that he'll get the permanent appointment, someone said not necessarily and its a bit premature. I stand by my summation.
[/quote]

That someone was me, and so do I.
[/quote]

JJ, let's see who buys who a pint? Deal ;D
[/quote]



I'd prefer a glass of S.African Cabernet Sauvignon, but a pint of beer is fine. ;D
[/quote]



Uuugghhh. I would have hoped that you would have more respect for your liver than to do that. 😱


If you've got the choice of wines and you don't take something from the Coonawarra then one can only conclude you have sadistic tendancies. 😀
[/quote]

Well, it was a nod to Roland's nationality, and the Western Cape does have some lovely wines 😛, but Coonawarra is always welcome too. That said, given a free worldwide choice I'd go for neither, but for something from the Valle Central in Chile. Cab Sav is my absolute favourite (and coincidentally happens to have the highest concentration of anti-carcinogens of any grape type), and the best Cab Sav from Chile is the best I've ever had.
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You've clearly never sampled a bottle of St Hugo's '96. I'll have to send you a bottle so you know the standard to which all else, including the Cab Sav from Chile, aspire to. 🙂
 
[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=43934.msg1275240#msg1275240 date=1296618794]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=43934.msg1273068#msg1273068 date=1296511775]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=43934.msg1273057#msg1273057 date=1296511565]
How will i look an arse? Im responding to what we have seen here.
We have a director of football who is apparantly hot shit.
We needed a LB, DM, LM, RM, CF and maybe a CB. You agree?
We also sold a winger, a CF a LB.

Given the months we had to assess our needs and find replacements we have come up with
Luis Suarez a forward.
Great. Fine. We needed that.
Torres walking out meant we needed another forward. Great we got one.

And thats where we are this window.
Weve spent 2m quid and are still short of a LB, DM, LM, RM as we were 4 months ago when Comolli came in.

Maybe in summer we invest massively and sort this mess out but here and now we still have Poulsen in CM, Jovanovic at LM, Kuyt at RM, Kelly at RB, Johnson at LB etc etc.
We havnt dont very well at all.
[/quote]

And it's January window. Considering that and we've been fucked over by Torres we've done extremely well. People have been like Torres and expect overnight miracles and throw a stroppy one because it's not happened.

I think we've done well CONSIDERING. You haven't. I'll leave it there
[/quote]


After reading the entire thread I'll come back to this post.

In the cold light of day the rational ones all knew that NESV were right in their summation that there was some serious problems with the clubs operations. It was sound business sense and should have been encouraging for those who loved the club. The only issue was that we feared it would be used as reasoning against improving the team which was, after all, something we all desperately wanted.

The circumspect warned against thinking that we'd do any spending in January; it's historically a bad window to do business, NESV were still coming to grips with problems from the previous regime and the managerial post was far from sorted. Then we bid a net 44m in the window and people are complaining that NESV didn't prove anything. Astonishing.

We're a successful club, our owners are operating like we're a successful club (not a flash in the pan, oil rich playboy with little business sense). They're not going to make stupid offers which will hamstring us in future windows nor get players at any cost and so create a rod for their back in the future. What they have done is show clearly that they will pay good money if the player is right, the other party aren't idiots and that they'll do so in a sound, sensible business manner.

I said in another post that I truly think they've shown the approach that will take us in a straight line to the summit. I also think we'll find ourselves competing with Spurs to do this. Chelsea aren't equipped to handle the new guidelines when they come in, City are even less capable of doing so, the mancs have got an enormous problem when Fergie finally gives it away. Spurs have been a similarly well run club in the manner to which NESV appear to be managing us. They've been doing it for a couple of years longer, are very well placed for the new guidelines and already reaping some success.

I think, in two years, we will be competing with Spurs at the top of the table. The edge we'll have is that no matter how well run they have been for the last couple of years they will never have the name to compete with Liverpool.

PS. I can't quite bring myself to discount united and arsenal completely so maybe they'll be in the mix as well. :-\
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good post, wiz.
hopefully in the summer nesv will move to plug the rest of holes in our first team in one fell swoop.
 
surely arsenal are the one really well-placed club with these new rules coming in, not spurs. they've got everything in place to dominate for years to come, as utd would have if the glazers moved on.

yes, us and spurs are in a promising position, but we're 10 years behind those 2 when it comes to our stadiums, and spurs might never solve that problem if they don't get the olympic site.
 
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=43934.msg1275653#msg1275653 date=1296655525]
surely arsenal are the one really well-placed club with these new rules coming in, not spurs. they've got everything in place to dominate for years to come, as utd would have if the glazers moved on.

yes, us and spurs are in a promising position, but we're 10 years behind those 2 when it comes to our stadiums, and spurs might never solve that problem if they don't get the olympic site.
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we need to build a team worth watching before thinking about capacity we are currently struggling to fill (be fair roy chased a lot of those people away and he's gone now).
 
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[quote author=peterhague link=topic=43934.msg1275653#msg1275653 date=1296655525]
surely arsenal are the one really well-placed club with these new rules coming in, not spurs. they've got everything in place to dominate for years to come, as utd would have if the glazers moved on.

yes, us and spurs are in a promising position, but we're 10 years behind those 2 when it comes to our stadiums, and spurs might never solve that problem if they don't get the olympic site.
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we need to build a team worth watching before thinking about capacity we are currently struggling to fill (be fair roy chased a lot of those people away and he's gone now).
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i know things have been bad recently, but i don't seriously doubt we can compete with arsenal for match-going fans long-term. there's quite a few thousand on the ST waiting list, for a start.
 
From the Official:

[size=12pt]Luis in the squad: Tickets on sale[/size]
2nd Feb 2011 - Latest News


Luis Suarez could make his Liverpool debut against Stoke City tonight - and you can be there to see the possible debut of our new number seven.

Suarez has received international clearance in time to figure in Kenny Dalglish's plans for this evening's big game as the Reds look to continue their recent winning streak.

While there can be no guarantees at this stage that Suarez will take to the field tonight, if you don't want to miss out on the possibility of seeing our Uruguayan striker in a red shirt for the first time then tickets are still available for the 8pm kick off.

Tickets are currently on sale from the ticket office windows at Anfield and will also be available on the turnstiles at the stadium tonight.
 
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=43934.msg1275713#msg1275713 date=1296657061]
From the Official:

[size=12pt]Luis in the squad: Tickets on sale[/size]
2nd Feb 2011 - Latest News


Luis Suarez could make his Liverpool debut against Stoke City tonight - and you can be there to see the possible debut of our new number seven.

Suarez has received international clearance in time to figure in Kenny Dalglish's plans for this evening's big game as the Reds look to continue their recent winning streak.

While there can be no guarantees at this stage that Suarez will take to the field tonight, if you don't want to miss out on the possibility of seeing our Uruguayan striker in a red shirt for the first time then tickets are still available for the 8pm kick off.

Tickets are currently on sale from the ticket office windows at Anfield and will also be available on the turnstiles at the stadium tonight.

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to be fair it's a midweek game against a pack of yard dogs.
 
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=43934.msg1275788#msg1275788 date=1296661442]
wish bus tickets weren't so cunting expensive. 🙁
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Tell me about it..

It's really tricky to buy travel tickets in advance because you dont know if you'll have match tickets but if you leave it late they get so bloody expensive. Bus tickets are slightly cheaper than train tickets but they're so much slower.

I nearly bought some tickets last year at a good price; but it was a 11.5 hour journey 🙁
 
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