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I don't know Andy - I generally still want to believe he enjoys playing for the club, and that he has an attachment to the fans, the city and the loyalty the club showed him despite the crap he's pulled on and off the pitch. I'll remain naive in hope it's rewarded! 😉

Don't do it to yourself LTW - it will only hurt more when the time comes!!!
 
I don't know Andy - I generally still want to believe he enjoys playing for the club, and that he has an attachment to the fans, the city and the loyalty the club showed him despite the crap he's pulled on and off the pitch. I'll remain naive in hope it's rewarded! 😉


I thought we had our eyes opened this summer, and are now looking at things realistically.
I believe he's likely to go this summer regardless. At 27.5 he'll probably see this as his last chance to go to Madrid or some other mega club for a jumbo contract.

But you know, miracles do happen...

But hey, we're hijacking this thread...
 
If we had Crystal Palace wage bill we WOULD be able to afford these two. As it is, I think a 30million outlay is highly unlikely, unless as has been posited elsewhere we know that a massive amount of money is coming in summer for a player sale or two.

I just cant get my head round why its percieved by some fans that we can't shell out 25-30 million, even more so when we haven't spent a bean during this transfer window and the opportunity we have for CL, theres just no evidence for thinking this, the build up to the last Jan transfer window loads were saying we didn't have any cash but we spent 20 mill, its almost like people think we are still under those cunts Hicks at Gillette.

Looking in from the outside the club looks in good health money wise with all these sponsorship deals and getting a lot of dross off the wage bill in recent times, i know we cant go bat shit crazy like City/Chelsea but we are hardly paupers.
 
Thought Luis release clause was £100 million to a foreign team and £120 million to team in England
 
I don't know Andy - I generally still want to believe he enjoys playing for the club, and that he has an attachment to the fans, the city and the loyalty the club showed him despite the crap he's pulled on and off the pitch. I'll remain naive in hope it's rewarded! 😉

Im with this aswell, i think he'll stay if we get CL.
 
I just cant get my head round why its percieved by some fans that we can't shell out 25-30 million, even more so when we haven't spent a bean during this transfer window and the opportunity we have for CL, theres just no evidence for thinking this, the build up to the last Jan transfer window loads were saying we didn't have any cash but we spent 20 mill, its almost like people think we are still under those cunts Hicks at Gillette.

Looking in from the outside the club looks in good health money wise with all these sponsorship deals and getting a lot of dross off the wage bill in recent times, i know we cant go bat shit crazy like City/Chelsea but we are hardly paupers.

I would much rather people think we are skint, than we are not. I actually think the fact that we have walked away a few times over the fees is very healthy. In the past, we have been taken advantage of because we are Liverpool and everyone assumed we had the funds.

I don't want us to walk away from every target because our valuations are silly and unrealistic, but backing away from time to time makes very good sense. Hopefully, when we have a really unique target that we really want, it will prevent the seller from just driving up the fee because they will know that we are willing to walk away.
 
You realise this will turn out to be Ayre trying to sign up "a Villa" in Spain for his summer holidays.
 
If Real offer upwards of 75m it won't be up to the player, the club will sell him, not without making enough noises to try to spin it like he forced the move like.


Nah it will definitely be Suarez. He'll orchestrate the whole thing by kicking Stevie full force into the ballsack during the World Cup group game...easiest way out.
 
becoming?

Ok, so of course we'll sell for that kind of money on Luis. If United will sell CR, we'll sell LS for that kind of money.
 
becoming?

Ok, so of course we'll sell for that kind of money on Luis. If United will sell CR, we'll sell LS for that kind of money.
Ronaldo did kick up a fuss though. Maybe if LS doesn't kick up a fuss (lol) we won't.
 
Heh. So you think stevie can put in that level of performance week in week out?

Sorry, it sounds like sacrilege after watching him do it in Tuesday but I can't see it myself.

And regardless, that means we're reliant on our 34 year old captain playing every game without injury for two months, as we have no back up at all now Lucas is injured.


I've kinda talked about thsi in other threads, but yeah I don't think we're that desperate for another DM. Certainly not right now anyway, and for 2 reasons.

1 - We play either a 1-2 midfield triangle or a 2-1 (the former being one sitting midfielder, Gerrard in Tuesday's example. The latter being 2 holders obviously like we did away to Man City). Anyway, in the 1-2 we have Gerrard, Allen, Lucas (when he's back) and I daresay even Hendo who can perform that role. That's 3 players, 4 at a push who can do it. More than enough. I think Lucas is excellent at it, and I've no issues whatsoever with Gerrard or Allen playing there. In the 2-1, we can obviously pick 2 of them, and then you can add Hendo/Coutinho into the top of the triangle. Also, the relationship between those guys and the front 3 has clicked all season long. We haven't used a lot of different players, so they've had a chance to gel, and work togethor. and it works. We spring quickly from the midfield base, and Suarez/Coutinho/Studge know the spaces to be in and the angles to receive the ball. We're not short on options. Why spend 15-20M right now on someone else to come in and add to that list? I don't see the point.

2 - We're 4th, and the best LFC side I've seen in 5 years with those guys, and I'm all for not breaking up what's worked halfway through a season with what 'might' work. Unless we're buying Yaya fucking Toure or Xavi and throwing them into the mix, then I don't see the risk-reward in putting in new 10-15M midfielders that probably aren't an awful lot better than what we've got. They'd take time to adapt, our midfield is clearly working OK, and why would anyone want to try something new and untrusted when we've got 15 odd games to go? It just doesn't rationalise for me.

I'm all for better long-term options, and if we can sign someone in the summer who's as good as we can get and will provide serious competition - then go for it. But right now, the system's not broken, and it'd be suicide to change it at this stage.

Plus, we need a left-back more.

So them's my thoughts.
 
I've kinda talked about thsi in other threads, but yeah I don't think we're that desperate for another DM. Certainly not right now anyway, and for 2 reasons.

1 - We play either a 1-2 midfield triangle or a 2-1 (the former being one sitting midfielder, Gerrard in Tuesday's example. The latter being 2 holders obviously like we did away to Man City). Anyway, in the 1-2 we have Gerrard, Allen, Lucas (when he's back) and I daresay even Hendo could perform that role. That's 3 players, 4 at a push who can do it. I think Lucas is excellent at it, and I've no issues whatsoever with Gerrard or Allen playing there. In the 2-1, we can obviously pick 2 of them, and then you can add Hendo/Coutinho into the top of the triangle. Also, the relationship between those guys and the front 3 has clicked all season long. We haven't used a lot of different players, so they've had a chance to gel, and work togethor. and it works. We spring quickly from the midfield base, and Suarez/Coutinho/Studge know the spaces to be in and the angles to receive the ball. We're not short on options. Why spend 15-20M right now on someone else to come in and add to that list? I don't see the point.

2 - We're 4th, and the best LFC side I've seen in 5 years with those guys, and I'm all for not breaking up what's worked halfway through a season with what 'might' work. Unless we're buying Yaya fucking Toure or Xavi and throwing them into the mix, then I don't see the risk-reward in putting in new 10-15M midfielders that probably aren't an awful lot better than what we've got. They'd take time to adapt, our midfield is clearly working OK, and why would anyone want to try something new and untrusted when we've got 15 odd games to go? It just doesn't rationalise for me.

I'm all for better long-term options, and if we can sign someone in the summer who's as good as we can get and will provide serious competition - then go for it. But right now, the system's not broken, and it'd be suicide to change it at this stage.

Plus, we need a left-back more.

So them's my thoughts.

So - we get Konoplyanka for the left wing and move Sterling to left back? I mean - this only makes sense if we are expecting him to start.
 
So - we get Konoplyanka for the left wing and move Sterling to left back? I mean - this only makes sense if we are expecting him to start.


Well the Konop interest/signing makes sense to me for a few reasons:

- He looks good. Always a decent enough reason to buy someone.

- We don't have many wingers/wide forwards. There's Sterling and that's about it. Coutinho's not suited to it, we don't wanna have Suarez/Studge playing those roles long term, and Ibe's relatively unproven. So yeah, we do need depth in those wide positions.

- I think Brodge is following the Wenger tactic of having untold attacking options. Essentially 6-7 players who can play across those front 2 lines, and provide options galore. If we've got Sterling, Coutinho, Suarez, Sturridge, Konop, and throw in Hendo and others - then that's the depth of realt talent you need to continually offer alternatives in attack. Wenger makes it work with all his little fags floating around in the #10 role and look at them now. Like I've said to til the cows come home - and coincidentally what all you cunts used to laugh at me about - world class players in attack, irrespective of position. Talented players make it work.
 
Well the Konop interest/signing makes sense to me for a few reasons:

- He looks good. Always a decent enough reason to buy someone.

- We don't have many wingers/wide forwards. There's Sterling and that's about it. Coutinho's not suited to it, we don't wanna have Suarez/Studge playing those roles long term, and Ibe's relatively unproven. So yeah, we do need depth in those wide positions.

- I think Brodge is following the Wenger tactic of having untold attacking options. Essentially 6-7 players who can play across those front 2 lines, and provide options galore. If we've got Sterling, Coutinho, Suarez, Sturridge, Konop, and throw in Hendo and others - then that's the depth of realt talent you need to continually offer alternatives in attack. Wenger makes it work with all his little fags floating around in the #10 role and look at them now. Like I've said to til the cows come home - and coincidentally what all you cunts used to laugh at me about - world class players in attack, irrespective of position. Talented players make it work.

So you're saying that I'm a cunt and Konoplyanka is a world class player?
I suppose one out of two ain't bad.
His YouTube looks like he has pace, passion, a decent right foot, some close control. But World Class? I hadn't heard of the fucker till yesterday. Got to say that I'm pretty excited about this kid though for some reason.
 
I'm a little surprised that a fullback of real quality isn't a higher priority especially considering how irrelevant moses has been. If we had more games I could see more of a need, but if we are willing to fight for our second choice we must see it as a priority.
 
I think the FB issues get resolved in the summer.

We have Robinson & Wisdom out on loan getting valuable experience with McLaughlin next in line and Brad Smith not far behind; Flanagan showing more than capable of covering either position well, Kelly in the mix returning from injury, Enrique due back soon & we don't know how long Johnson will be out - which could either be negative or positive.

Cissoko is only a temporary filler.

Big decisions to make on Enrique, Robinson, Johnson & Kelly in the summer I think.

It's not ideal, but I think it's manageable till the end of the season, when it becomes a primary issue.
 
Is M'Vila a straight up DM or can he operate a bit further forward?

Heat map from the 4 Europa League matches that he started this season

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