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Credit where its due, he looks a different player since he got dropped. Hes quicker off his line, demanding, braver and his shot stopping has been so pure.
4 clean sheets on the bounce in the league and he has been every bit a part of that. That save today was first class.

Keep it up Seeemon.
 
He's looked a totally different player - the confidence is clearly much improved. Maybe the real threat of us bringing in a better keeper has now sunk in and he realizes the music is about to end if he doesn't start impressing. If he'd been in this form in the first half of the season, we'd be in the top four looking down at the other pretenders instead of playing catch up now. I hope he keeps playing at this level or better from now till the end of the season. If he does, he might actually make Rodgers rethink his possible goalkeeping targets in the summer.
 
We need a new keeper anyway - Jones' contract is expiring. I reckon we will end up getting that Matt Ryan fellow.
 
His turnaround has been really impressive given the depths to which his confidence had sunk.

It takes quite some character to bounce back as he's done. Maybe he'll make it here after all?
 
Mignolet and Ryan would give us good depth at GK, with the hope that Ryan can develop into a very good goalkeeper.
 
He's been very good, I didn't know what to make of the way Rodgers treated him, it seemed harsh to do it so publicly, but it's worked.
 
Nah I think they would have used that line in a heartbeat rather than suffer the humiliation of him just being shit due to being, well, shit, or low on confidence.

Good to see him improving. But, one swallow and all that....
 
I was completely wrong about him. I really thought he was wrecked when he was dropped, but he's fought back amazingly well. It helps that his return has coincided with our back three getting settled, but it still took real character to re-emerge looking so calm and confident.
 
Yeah, it speaks wonders for me that he's prepared to simply kick it out of play on occasion when he's unsure he'll make the pass.

He still has the odd momentary lapse (a couple of passes behind players or to feet despite them being very tightly marked & close to goal) but he doesn't let it affect his mentality after that.

It will be interesting (if a bit worrying) to see how Can being out of the back line effects him, or whether he's controlling the area himself.
 
It's quite interesting how about half the current regular starters looked like their LFC career might have stalled or ended at one point:

Skrtel - dropped for Carra
Henderson - almost shipped to Fulham
Lucas - dropped for Gerrard
Sakho - walked out before Anfield derby, then injured and future looked a bit unclear
Mignolet - dropped for Jones

Of course, there have been other less successful cases, e.g. Borini - refused to leave, hasn't made much of a mark, though you can't fault his effort when he's on the pitch. Too bad Balotelli doesn't look like he can join the list.
 
It's quite interesting how about half the current regular starters looked like their LFC career might have stalled or ended at one point:

Skrtel - dropped for Carra
Henderson - almost shipped to Fulham
Lucas - dropped for Gerrard
Sakho - walked out before Anfield derby, then injured and future looked a bit unclear
Mignolet - dropped for Jones

Of course, there have been other less successful cases, e.g. Borini - refused to leave, hasn't made much of a mark, though you can't fault his effort when he's on the pitch. Too bad Balotelli doesn't look like he can join the list.

I'm pretty sure someone is going to argue that this is good management as its forced those players to raise their game. But quite frankly I think its a worrying sign that our manager isn't the best judge of a player (if our transfer dealings weren't enough of a clue) .
 
To be fair, someone could always argue the other side of the position if they wanted to badly enough. If you said he made an error in judgment, then a counter would've been that he was man enough to admit his error and include the player, so that's a plus. If it was good management, then someone could argue that they were bad because of management's poor setups / systems / choices in the first place. 😉

It's probably a mix of both sides - maybe in a case or two it was a judgment error, while it was a truly correct move in the others. Things worked out in the end. Rodgers isn't the first manager too to drop players to spur them on, or to make mistakes in overlooking some fellas.
 
I'm pretty sure someone is going to argue that this is good management as its forced those players to raise their game. But quite frankly I think its a worrying sign that our manager isn't the best judge of a player (if our transfer dealings weren't enough of a clue) .

It would be a big stretch to argue that it has been good management dropping the fore mentioned players but equally I think it would be churlish to totally dismiss the notion that time spend on the side lines could have played a part in their rehabilitation, or that it was the motivation for dropping them in the first place.
 
Hey... In honesty if I had the ability to drop him and buy a better keeper I wouldn't hesitate. That said his kicking, which was one of his most glaringly atrocious flaws, was pretty damned sound yesterday... So fair fucks to him...

Maybe the dropping from the side did him good.
 
Looked at in isolation, any improvement we can make is worth making, but I'd defo hesitate. The character he's shown to get back to form, the top saves he's always made (his mistakes were in other areas) and the fact that we need more than one decent keeper all tell me we should keep him.
 
Credit where its due, he looks a different player since he got dropped. Hes quicker off his line, demanding, braver and his shot stopping has been so pure.
4 clean sheets on the bounce in the league and he has been every bit a part of that. That save today was first class.

Keep it up Seeemon.


Fair play Oncey. Fair play.
 
It's hard for me to comment as I've missed the last 4 matches stuck in work, but he's got all the natural attributes to be a wonderful keeper, Throughout his Liverpool career he has just needed to reach down and find a big pair of bollocks and swing them around to the world. Let's hope this is the start of that.
 
I desperately wanted Petr Cech in January, but after watching Chelsea's fall to Bradford and seeing a whole new Liverpool defence for the past 10 or so games I can definitively conclude:
Simone Mignolet at 26 is better than Petr Cech at 32.

Ten more years of Ming..
Ten more years of Ming...
Ten more years of Ming...
Ten more years of Ming...
 
It's hard for me to comment as I've missed the last 4 matches stuck in work, but he's got all the natural attributes to be a wonderful keeper, Throughout his Liverpool career he has just needed to reach down and find a big pair of bollocks and swing them around to the world. Let's hope this is the start of that.

FYI, you can try and see if you can still get the full match replays here:
-- http://www.footballtarget.com/full-match-replay-video/
 
I thought dropping Ming was a huge mistake, despite his very poor form he's a significantly better keeper than Brad Jones. I wanted Ming to stay in goal but also wanted a new keeper in the January transfer window as Ming IMO would never dominate his area the way we need him to. The last few weeks have been very impressive and have made me think maybe he could be our long term no.1; having said that I still think he has much to prove before the end of the season.
 
As an ex shaky goalie (LOL) I think a lot of it will be the reassurance of having both an extra CB for obvious duties (e.g. dealing with crosses, ensuring dangermen are better marked etc) but also I think it will mean he is being passed too less as there is that extra option between the defenders and that takes some of the pressure of the standard pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-HOOF between the CBs and Ming.

The role of Lucas has been key too but I have to say I have also been impressed with the way he is coming off his line more for crosses/ corners as well as being a more alert sweeper. He's getting some mojo back and I think that in turn is giving more confidence to the CBs - it is a great spiral when both sets are playing well but an awful one when both the defence and the GK are making errors. We are finally on the positive side of it!
 
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Simon Mignolet interview: Liverpool goalkeeper has a new mantra - think less, act more

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It is the fact that Simon Mignolet has prepared notes for this conversation which reveals the most. He indicated to Liverpool’s press people that he wanted to talk and, while doing so, keeps going back to “the thing I wanted to say today” in a way that tells this is not just another football interview but a sculpted insight, into how a player’s game can unravel and be put back together again.
He reflects that things fell apart because he was thinking too much about his football, though the irony of him having thought so deeply about how to explain that fact makes you see that introspection can’t be put on and off like a switch. Mignolet will always be deep thinking and we can give thanks for that.
His readiness to speak is unexpected in these buttoned-up days of football platitudes and, though Liverpool stand apart among the top Premier League clubs in their willingness to entertain an interaction between players and people like us, Mignolet could be forgiven for putting up the barricades.
Publicly and brutally, his game has been pulled apart in the past six months, when even members of the fabled goalkeepers’ union have been willing to weigh in. A former custodian of his Liverpool jersey, Bruce Grobbelaar, compared him unfavourably to Dracula in November “because at least Dracula comes out of his coffin every now and then. [Mignolet] seems to stay on his line.”
Everton’s Tim Howard wondered whether Mignolet would ever reclaim the shirt after Brendan Rodgers had quietly taken the 26-year-old aside at Melwood, on 13 December, and told him that Brad Jones – who had played 10 league games in four years – would be starting at Old Trafford the following day. It certainly felt like a brutal moment to withdraw him from the line of fire.
It was fate – rather than the Belgian’s relentlessly positive philosophy about the break from the train-play-train routine doing him good – which brought him back into the fold. Jones had been between the posts for just two games when he sustained a thigh injury against Burnley on Boxing Day, delivering Mignolet his place back.
Then, a few hours after a moment of the same indecision at Turf Moor that had characterised the player’s decline – allowing a back pass to roll out for a corner – Mignolet’s fiancée, Jasmien Claes, made a very acute observation over dinner. “Simon, are you sometimes overthinking stuff?” she asked.
“Those were her words,” Mignolet relates. His family were over for Boxing Day night and, that hardly being the time for an inquisition, his reply was succinct. “I didn’t really give a response at the time…,” he says. “I said: ‘We think about things.’”
 
I missed about ten minutes of the game due to some choppiness in the stream (somewhere between the 62nd to 72nd minute, just after Sakho needed treatment prior to the corner) - unless I missed a moment or two of shakiness, then, I thought he was absolutely top class today. Probably the best I've seen him play for us - came out decisively and powerfully for punched clearances, plucked crosses, stopped a one-on-one, nearly got a hand to stop their goal, and was just really confident all around.

Owen kept going on about him being late in coming out for their goal, but I don't quite agree. I think he did what he could in getting out to punch clear as it was just bad luck that Skrtel messed up what looked like a pretty simple headed clearance.

Hope he keeps building on his recent performances.
 
I have an affection for our goalkeepers and he's no different. Super super happy for the guy that he can not only turn it all around, but look like a proper Liverpool goalie.
At last. Now keep it up Simon - I'm routing for him.
 
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