Marko the turkey
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This is stupid. Reports from Portugal that he's the best kid ever. Scouted by all the big clubs. One bad season here and farmed out to a shithole. There's no doubt if anyone gave a fuck they could have got him a far better loan somewhere decent... but why loan him out anyway? There's a Europa league and a Carling Cup, and we'll no doubt have a couple of injuries through the season. He'd have got games.
The one where you very cleverly used the white font. Come on now Peter, behave yourself man.
I didn't tag you.
I really wanted him to do well here. Loaning him to Turkey is pointless. He's already shown he can rip it up in Portugal (similar standard to Turkey perhaps?) so i'm not sure what we'll gain from this bar allowing him game time this season. A year in Turkey might not protect his value as much as we would like. It's a pity we didn't secure a club for him in Germany, Italy or Spain.
Has this been confirmed yet or still just speculation?
Has this been confirmed yet or still just speculation?
Feels a bit like we can't be arsed developing younger players. The plan seems to be throw them into the team, if they swim great, if they don't then they rot, get sold or loaned.
He had a season played all over the place too where I thought he actually did alright at fullback.
I don't like criticising Rodgers and I generally don't, but I've long thought that he's treated this kid very badly.
He was mostly poor, but to write him off is frankly pathetic. He's been touted as one of the best European talents at his age since he was about 17. To have such a reputation with no substance to it I'd suggest is highly unlikely.
A plan should've been in place to give him a reasonable amount of opportunities in a favourable position. IMO the signing of Lallana alone has to cast a lot of doubt on Rodgers ever having had any intention of prioritising his development.
A plan should've been in place to give him a reasonable amount of opportunities in a favourable position. IMO the signing of Lallana alone has to cast a lot of doubt on Rodgers ever having had any intention of prioritising his development.
The logic of our TC is very odd. If anyone could explain it then the Nobel prize wouldn't be out of the question.
Quote, name, refer to whatever the fuck you like Peter. You used to be funny...even this morning your post made me laugh...now you're just boring. Come back funny Peter.
According to who?
Because that's where I think the problem lies.
Turkey seems to me to be the death knell for his Liverpool career,although Rodgers is saying the opposite.
I think it's pretty clear he's not Premiership standard yet but I don't think he's a million miles away.
You don't understand the difference. I made that post in that thread because it was a genuine point I wanted to make on that subject. I jokingly made reference to you and mark because you were already engaged in that thread and I obviously had no choice but to suffer your objections. That seemed like a way of confounding them. It wasn't a deliberate attempt to draw you into an argument - rather the reverse.
I made a similar point in this thread because it's one I still think is interesting and neglected in the general discourse and I'd be interested in debating it. If you want to do that, fine. If you want to just cry foul because I think BR is a shit manager and a poisonous influence I suggest trying to ignore me.
Peter, when you're explaining you're losing and you're having to explain an awful lot of posts recently.
Back on point, you think Rodgers is a 'poisonous influence', I think that's a little OTT. I doubt we'll agree or even budge our respective opinions so it's not really worth another lap of the track is it?
Back on point, you think Rodgers is a 'poisonous influence', I think that's a little OTT. I doubt we'll agree or even budge our respective opinions so it's not really worth another lap of the track is it?
I have to explain an awful lot of posts because the likes of you and mark keep reading them.
I can't remember but my dude in Lisbon was quoting all kinds of crap people were saying about him being the best prospect in Europe etc, and Chelsea tried to buy him a year before us but he wanted first team footy so went to Benfica - and all their fans and media were gutted when he signed for us. I seem to recall some dude saying he was better for them than Di Maria... I mean he's defo not shit.
It's the nature and purpose of the forum I guess.
Clearly a good few people MM. I care too. I don't want him to go on loan to Fener so I'm hoping it's just speculation right now.
Perhaps.
I try my best not to unnecessarily criticise for the sake of it. I was hoping Lazar had a future here and he might still do. This move to Turkey just seems like a kiss of death. We'll have to wait and see.
I know, God forbid should we have a manager who wants full control, you know, exactly the same thing you backed Benitez over.
I backed Benitez because I thought he was good. Generally I find it regrettable when managers want too much control but I've definitely moved more towards the Rosco position on these things since those days.
In any case, I wouldn't really blame the managers for wanting control. The real fault lies with the people who allow them to have it.
Who thought he was a world beater? Why do some people massively overrate every player we buy, some people on here were still going on about how Carroll could be unstoppable when we sold him. He scored 5 goals for Benfica, he was definitely a prospect but we massively overpaid for him.
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