WTF is that about? Knitted boots for the first time in a game against the mancs
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If it rains or the pitch is hosed Suarez will have lead feet!
All metrics are 'average per game', for Premiership games in 2013/14:
Passing
Total passes: United - 477.25 / Liverpool - 487.43
Passes completed: United - 84% / Liverpool - 84%
Average pass length: United - 18.97m / Liverpool - 19.10m
Total forward passes: United - 305.36 / Liverpool - 316.54
Total backward passes: United - 170.29 / Liverpool - 169
Key passes: United - 9.36 / Liverpool - 11.14
Chances created: United - 10.32 / Liverpool - 12.79
Goals
Goals from set pieces: United - 0.39 / Liverpool - 0.82
Goals from outside area: United - 0.25 / Liverpool - 0.54
Goals from inside area: United - 1.39 / Liverpool - 2.07
Headed goals: United - 0.32 / Liverpool - 0.39
Goals from corners: United - 0.11 / Liverpool - 0.29
Goals from direct free kicks: United - 0.11 / Liverpool - 0.14
Attempts
Total shots: United - 14 / Liverpool - 17
Shot accuracy: United - 46% / Liverpool - 50%
Shots inside area: United - 9.04 / Liverpool - 9.93
Shots outside area: United - 4.96 / Liverpool - 7.07
Defence
Interceptions: United - 16.89 / Liverpool - 12.54
Blocks: United - 2.89 / Liverpool - 3.29
Defensive errors: United - 0.54 / Liverpool - 1.18
Defensive errors leading to goals: United - 0.25 / Liverpool - 0.29
Duels
Tackles won: United - 13.75 / Liverpool - 16.86
Tackles lost: United - 15.14 / Liverpool - 17.93
Aerial duels won %: United - 47.51% / Liverpool - 49.11%
Successful take-ons %: United - 53.26% / Liverpool - 50.93%
Fouls suffered: United - 12.32 / Liverpool - 11.32
Fouls committed: United - 10.64 / Liverpool - 11.39
Discipline:
Red cards: United - 0.07 / Liverpool - 0.00
Yellow cards: United - 1.89 / Liverpool - 1.43
Cards for diving: United - 0.14 / Liverpool - 0.00
Cards for bad tackles: United - 1.39 / Liverpool - 1.11
Cards for verbal abuse: United - 0.07 / Liverpool - 0.04
Goalkeeping:
Saves: United - 2.39 / Liverpool - 2.14
Saves per goal: United - 2.23 / Liverpool - 1.94
Distribution accuracy: United - 62% / Liverpool - 66%
Distribution length average: United - 59m / Liverpool - 56m
Punches: United - 0.43 / Liverpool - 0.64
Catches: United - 2.46 / Liverpool - 2.32
All stats taken from: http://www.squawka.com/
Passing
Total passes: United - 477.25 / Liverpool - 487.43
Passes completed: United - 84% / Liverpool - 84%
Average pass length: United - 18.97m / Liverpool - 19.10m
Total forward passes: United - 305.36 / Liverpool - 316.54
Total backward passes: United - 170.29 / Liverpool - 169
Key passes: United - 9.36 / Liverpool - 11.14
Chances created: United - 10.32 / Liverpool - 12.79
Goals
Goals from set pieces: United - 0.39 / Liverpool - 0.82
Goals from outside area: United - 0.25 / Liverpool - 0.54
Goals from inside area: United - 1.39 / Liverpool - 2.07
Headed goals: United - 0.32 / Liverpool - 0.39
Goals from corners: United - 0.11 / Liverpool - 0.29
Goals from direct free kicks: United - 0.11 / Liverpool - 0.14
Attempts
Total shots: United - 14 / Liverpool - 17
Shot accuracy: United - 46% / Liverpool - 50%
Shots inside area: United - 9.04 / Liverpool - 9.93
Shots outside area: United - 4.96 / Liverpool - 7.07
Defence
Interceptions: United - 16.89 / Liverpool - 12.54
Blocks: United - 2.89 / Liverpool - 3.29
Defensive errors: United - 0.54 / Liverpool - 1.18
Defensive errors leading to goals: United - 0.25 / Liverpool - 0.29
Duels
Tackles won: United - 13.75 / Liverpool - 16.86
Tackles lost: United - 15.14 / Liverpool - 17.93
Aerial duels won %: United - 47.51% / Liverpool - 49.11%
Successful take-ons %: United - 53.26% / Liverpool - 50.93%
Fouls suffered: United - 12.32 / Liverpool - 11.32
Fouls committed: United - 10.64 / Liverpool - 11.39
Discipline:
Red cards: United - 0.07 / Liverpool - 0.00
Yellow cards: United - 1.89 / Liverpool - 1.43
Cards for diving: United - 0.14 / Liverpool - 0.00
Cards for bad tackles: United - 1.39 / Liverpool - 1.11
Cards for verbal abuse: United - 0.07 / Liverpool - 0.04
Goalkeeping:
Saves: United - 2.39 / Liverpool - 2.14
Saves per goal: United - 2.23 / Liverpool - 1.94
Distribution accuracy: United - 62% / Liverpool - 66%
Distribution length average: United - 59m / Liverpool - 56m
Punches: United - 0.43 / Liverpool - 0.64
Catches: United - 2.46 / Liverpool - 2.32
All stats taken from: http://www.squawka.com/
All that means we have a better attack and they have slightly better defense, no?
to add another one to that:
Just 1.7% (approximately one in fifty-seven) of the crosses against Liverpool this season have resulted in a Goal. Come those crosses and we will kiss them like babies 🤓
Just 1.7% (approximately one in fifty-seven) of the crosses against Liverpool this season have resulted in a Goal. Come those crosses and we will kiss them like babies 🤓
no that means it will be a proper contest and our attack has to come on top
Ha. I love the fact everyone assumes knitted means wool.
It's basically the same woven shit they make all boots out of, only is done in a spaced out & more obvious knit over the same shell base.
They just look different is about all it boils down to, they're fully waterproof, of course.
I can find no facts about the base the knit is built around, but it must be, otherwise the shape of the foot would push it out of shape & it'd be useless as a football boot.
Its basically a must win now..... especially looking at Chelsea's remaining fixtures.
We need that early goal (probably 2) like we have been getting the last few months.
It really is the biggest game against this lot for god knows how long.... I for one cannot wait for it....
Part of me still worries though that they will turn out a performance just to fuck us over.
We need that early goal (probably 2) like we have been getting the last few months.
It really is the biggest game against this lot for god knows how long.... I for one cannot wait for it....
Part of me still worries though that they will turn out a performance just to fuck us over.
At the same time I guarantee they are worried we will come out like we did against both Arsenal and Everton to fuck them over. This is our greatest chance of atleast my lifetime to turn them over at Old Trafford.
I have faith in Rodgers that we he will set us out and seal this one.
Twelve reasons why United are better than Liverpool
13 Mar 2014 16:07
Whatever happens in the game on Sunday, United fans can take comfort in the fact that their club is altogether better than their rivals from down the road.
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Form is temporary, class is permanent
If Liverpool fans are going to brag about finishing above United this season they should probably put it in context. The last time they finished above the Reds in the league was 12 years ago - and that was when the likes of Juan Sebastian Veron, Quinton Fortune, and Wes Brown were all in Sir Alex's side. And before that it was 1991. So expect 2027 to be the next time Liverpool get the better of United!
Community support
Which team has won more trophies? That would be United. 62 beats 60 - no argument. Some Liverpool fans would moan that the inclusion of Community Shield wins (20 to 15) unfairly skews the balance to Manchester. But you didn’t hear those same fans complaining when they won it in 2001 as part of their ‘five’ trophies. Much of the silverware is more recent too - when Liverpool won the Champions League in 2005 it was so rare they had to coin it a miracle.
Points don’t make prizes
Liverpool have been praised for their brilliant, attacking football all season and United will be hard pressed to catch them in the league. But equally, Liverpool are third-favourites for the league title, and it’s the only competition they’re left fighting for. David Moyes won a trophy in his first competitive game. For all the good play of the Scousers they’ll still end up with less silverware - what a shame.
Size matters
Anfield's Kop has been famed down the years for its atmosphere. But, statistically speaking, it's only two-thirds as good as that found at Old Trafford, give or take a few thousand fans. The difference between the 45,000 and 75,000 seats at each stadium is tangible on matchday - and when the clubs' respective accounts are released. United are simply a bigger club with a bigger ground and a bigger network of fans.
Flat-track bullies
Liverpool have looked imperious this season against the likes of Norwich and West Ham, especially at home. But Arsenal (twice), City, Chelsea away? Not so much. Just like at Old Trafford in the League Cup. Rodgers sent out his full side in September and was beaten by Moyes’ reserves. Great consistency against the lesser teams, same old choking against the big sides.
CV that counts
Moyes' doubters have regularly claimed that he can’t be successful at United because he has never won anything as a manager. By that logic, Liverpool’s lean years will continue. In 15 seasons on Merseyside, Gerrard has won three medals in major competitions; in the same time Giggs has won 13, including three in one year.
Back in the game
One thing you can guarantee ahead of Sunday's game is that we're going to have to put up with a one-sided analysis no matter what the result. You see, former Liverpool players dominate the UK punditry scene, and they're sure to be out in force again at Old Trafford. You might get the odd splash of Gary Neville on co-commentary (also an England coach), but otherwise it'll be a face-full of Jamies Carragher and Redknapp and Graeme Souness.
Older and wiser
Age before beauty - it's a mantra we should all live by. And, while Liverpool may have been easier on the eye so far this season, United at least deserve more respect because they are older! It's 136 years since Newton Heath LYR were founded by a group of railway workers, 14 years ahead of our friends over on Merseyside. In fact, their Anfield home was at that point being used by one Everton FC before a dispute over rent resulted in a split which saw Liverpool founded!
Good looking
Of course in conceding that Brendan Rodgers' side have played more attractive football this season, we must emphasise the fact that 2013-14 bucks a trend over 50 years old. It is United who have long been known for a swashbuckling approach to the beautiful game, with the likes of George Best, Bobby Charlton and Cristiano Ronaldo ensuring Old Trafford was the place to go for aesthetes. By contrast, much of Liverpool's early success under Bill Shankly, Bob Paisley and - more recently - Rafael Benitez has been built on a sterile pass-and-move which has rarely caught the imagination.
The best of Busby
There aren't many people who are thought of warmly by both Liverpool and United fans, but Sir Matt Busby is certainly one of them. The Scot held the captain's armband at the Merseyside club over the course of a four-year stay during his playing days, but did not manage to claim a single trophy before the Second World War cut his career short. Strangely, the 13 trophies he went on to claim as Reds manager mean he isn't referenced too regularly by supporters at Anfield these days...
Trailblazers in Europe
We're sure to be reminded about the number of European Cups Liverpool have claimed when they turn up in Manchester on Sunday, but that they were simply following in United's footsteps is often conveniently forgotten. Breaking new ground is notoriously difficult, and that is just what Busby's team did in becoming the first English club to win the trophy by beating Benfica 4-1 at Wembley. It could be said that Liverpool were shown the way.
The Treble
1999 also saw another first for English football as United famously claimed the treble. It was a feat Liverpool had never managed during their years of domination - and the Reds are in fact the very reason for that. The Anfield side could have claimed the lot in 1977, but were defeated in the FA Cup final thanks to goals from Stuart Pearson and Jimmy Greenhoff. Sorry Liverpool fans, but the UEFA Cup, League Cup and FA Cup doesn't count.
13 Mar 2014 16:07
Whatever happens in the game on Sunday, United fans can take comfort in the fact that their club is altogether better than their rivals from down the road.
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Form is temporary, class is permanent
If Liverpool fans are going to brag about finishing above United this season they should probably put it in context. The last time they finished above the Reds in the league was 12 years ago - and that was when the likes of Juan Sebastian Veron, Quinton Fortune, and Wes Brown were all in Sir Alex's side. And before that it was 1991. So expect 2027 to be the next time Liverpool get the better of United!
Community support
Which team has won more trophies? That would be United. 62 beats 60 - no argument. Some Liverpool fans would moan that the inclusion of Community Shield wins (20 to 15) unfairly skews the balance to Manchester. But you didn’t hear those same fans complaining when they won it in 2001 as part of their ‘five’ trophies. Much of the silverware is more recent too - when Liverpool won the Champions League in 2005 it was so rare they had to coin it a miracle.
Points don’t make prizes
Liverpool have been praised for their brilliant, attacking football all season and United will be hard pressed to catch them in the league. But equally, Liverpool are third-favourites for the league title, and it’s the only competition they’re left fighting for. David Moyes won a trophy in his first competitive game. For all the good play of the Scousers they’ll still end up with less silverware - what a shame.
Size matters
Anfield's Kop has been famed down the years for its atmosphere. But, statistically speaking, it's only two-thirds as good as that found at Old Trafford, give or take a few thousand fans. The difference between the 45,000 and 75,000 seats at each stadium is tangible on matchday - and when the clubs' respective accounts are released. United are simply a bigger club with a bigger ground and a bigger network of fans.
Flat-track bullies
Liverpool have looked imperious this season against the likes of Norwich and West Ham, especially at home. But Arsenal (twice), City, Chelsea away? Not so much. Just like at Old Trafford in the League Cup. Rodgers sent out his full side in September and was beaten by Moyes’ reserves. Great consistency against the lesser teams, same old choking against the big sides.
CV that counts
Moyes' doubters have regularly claimed that he can’t be successful at United because he has never won anything as a manager. By that logic, Liverpool’s lean years will continue. In 15 seasons on Merseyside, Gerrard has won three medals in major competitions; in the same time Giggs has won 13, including three in one year.
Back in the game
One thing you can guarantee ahead of Sunday's game is that we're going to have to put up with a one-sided analysis no matter what the result. You see, former Liverpool players dominate the UK punditry scene, and they're sure to be out in force again at Old Trafford. You might get the odd splash of Gary Neville on co-commentary (also an England coach), but otherwise it'll be a face-full of Jamies Carragher and Redknapp and Graeme Souness.
Older and wiser
Age before beauty - it's a mantra we should all live by. And, while Liverpool may have been easier on the eye so far this season, United at least deserve more respect because they are older! It's 136 years since Newton Heath LYR were founded by a group of railway workers, 14 years ahead of our friends over on Merseyside. In fact, their Anfield home was at that point being used by one Everton FC before a dispute over rent resulted in a split which saw Liverpool founded!
Good looking
Of course in conceding that Brendan Rodgers' side have played more attractive football this season, we must emphasise the fact that 2013-14 bucks a trend over 50 years old. It is United who have long been known for a swashbuckling approach to the beautiful game, with the likes of George Best, Bobby Charlton and Cristiano Ronaldo ensuring Old Trafford was the place to go for aesthetes. By contrast, much of Liverpool's early success under Bill Shankly, Bob Paisley and - more recently - Rafael Benitez has been built on a sterile pass-and-move which has rarely caught the imagination.
The best of Busby
There aren't many people who are thought of warmly by both Liverpool and United fans, but Sir Matt Busby is certainly one of them. The Scot held the captain's armband at the Merseyside club over the course of a four-year stay during his playing days, but did not manage to claim a single trophy before the Second World War cut his career short. Strangely, the 13 trophies he went on to claim as Reds manager mean he isn't referenced too regularly by supporters at Anfield these days...
Trailblazers in Europe
We're sure to be reminded about the number of European Cups Liverpool have claimed when they turn up in Manchester on Sunday, but that they were simply following in United's footsteps is often conveniently forgotten. Breaking new ground is notoriously difficult, and that is just what Busby's team did in becoming the first English club to win the trophy by beating Benfica 4-1 at Wembley. It could be said that Liverpool were shown the way.
The Treble
1999 also saw another first for English football as United famously claimed the treble. It was a feat Liverpool had never managed during their years of domination - and the Reds are in fact the very reason for that. The Anfield side could have claimed the lot in 1977, but were defeated in the FA Cup final thanks to goals from Stuart Pearson and Jimmy Greenhoff. Sorry Liverpool fans, but the UEFA Cup, League Cup and FA Cup doesn't count.
From Manchester Evening News.
The point about the treble, & the recent trophies, is about all that guff has valid points about.
The rest all is either trivial bs or leaves out the opposing argument to bolster itself.
The rest all is either trivial bs or leaves out the opposing argument to bolster itself.
Yeah, it seemed like the type of shite the echo produces on a regular basis.
No way can they sack a winner
1 reason Liverpool are better than Manchester Utd:
They're a gang of twats and we aren't.
They're a gang of twats and we aren't.
David Moyes
That as well
Yep, bragging about Charity Sheilds is something you would expect from Everton fans, not them.
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