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Luis Suarez pwned by the Lizards and is Staying, and has said sorry to BR and teammates

Yeah, but they can work on that too. They can also offer European footie and they have all that Jew gold. I know this can be said for a lot of clubs but I think Spurs are only short of really top class Striker (25/30 a season) and they'll be more than just top 4 contenders.
 
Indeed, but without Bale they are quite a way behind us imo, they'll have to spend it well, I'd prefer them to keep Bale though, as at the moment I feel our squads are on par.

Really? Id be very surprised if any non Liverpool fans agreed with that assessment, they have quietly built a decent squad over the last 4/5 seasons, in the same period we have taken a wrecking ball to ours and are only now beginning the sort of ground up rebuild that should have started after Rafa left.

I would say Bale or not they have a better squad than us. Not by miles but we are closing the gap.

Everton on the other hand have a shite squad and I still cannot figure out how they finished ahead of us
 
Yes it is. Better keeper, better defenders, better midfield. Not a whole lot in it,but they're stronger.


Disagree, they have an awful strike force and one good central defender (admittedly he's great). There isn't much between Mignolet and Lloris and we're on a par down the flanks, however they have a fantastic central midfield. With Bale, our squads are very similarly matched.
 
Really? Id be very surprised if any non Liverpool fans agreed with that assessment, they have quietly built a decent squad over the last 4/5 seasons, in the same period we have taken a wrecking ball to ours and are only now beginning the sort of ground up rebuild that should have started after Rafa left.

I would say Bale or not they have a better squad than us. Not by miles but we are closing the gap.

Everton on the other hand have a shite squad and I still cannot figure out how they finished ahead of us

I disagree, see my post above. The thing about Spurs is besides from in central midfield, they don't really have much depth.
 
WITH Bale, as league positions in previous years has shown, they have a much stronger squad.
Without Bale there isn't much in it but I'd say they're stronger. Also, Defoe & Adebayor isn't an awful strikeforce. They'll also add a striker whether Bale stays or goes.
 
I think Spurs have a good balance though and have alot of physically athletic players. Player for player there's probably not a great deal in it but they do have reasonable depth, what they really lack is a bit of a cutting edge upfront. Adebayor is brilliant when he can be arsed but Defoe is well on the decline. Woland is bang on though, either they have one of the best players in Europe or they spend £100m which could pretty much complete them. It's no win, unless by some stroke of genius Spurs inherit our player scouting expertise from circa 2008-2011
 
WITH Bale, as league positions in previous years has shown, they have a much stronger squad.
Without Bale there isn't much in it but I'd say they're stronger. Also, Defoe & Adebayor isn't an awful strikeforce. They'll also add a striker whether Bale stays or goes.


Two of our best players weren't there at the beginning though, at the start of last season their squad was much better than ours, and it showed.
 
I can't believe people think Spurs couldn't improve their squad with £100m from Bale. It's fucking mental. Bale is a good player, really good. But £80m+ for him is fucking insanity. Even accounting for the difficulties of inflation after selling a big player (questionable, IMO) and attracting players of a similar quality, they could replace him for about £50-60m IMO, *at the most*. Anything else will be profit.
 
I can't believe people think Spurs couldn't improve their squad with £100m from Bale. It's fucking mental. Bale is a good player, really good. But £80m+ for him is fucking insanity. Even accounting for the difficulties of inflation after selling a big player (questionable, IMO) and attracting players of a similar quality, they could replace him for about £50-60m IMO, *at the most*. Anything else will be profit.


No doubt, but they wouldn't be able to find a player close to his ability though, they're in the same position as us with Suarez having no champions league football. if Spurs manage to sign Soldado, a great centre back and keep Bale, they'd be in a brilliant position.
 
But as has been pointed out re Suarez, you could improve the team in two/three positions rather than a straight one for one swap. Spurs could buy a striker, midfielder and defender of the highest quality for 100m. I doubt they'll get that for him though.
 
But as has been pointed out re Suarez, you could improve the team in two/three positions rather than a straight one for one swap. Spurs could buy a striker, midfielder and defender of the highest quality for 100m. I doubt they'll get that for him though.

The question is whether they could actually get players of the highest quality.

City for all their money last season missed out on Hazard, Van Persie and others and ended up signing pointless players like Garcia, Sinclair etc.
 
You're right Ken, that remains to be seen. But with the squad they have assembled, their recent league performances, their highly rated manager and the Bale money in the bank I'd back them to secure suitable signings. I'd say they'll offer wages on par with Germany and Italy.
 
As has been pointed out, they don't have to buy any one individual as nearly classy as Bale, they just have to replace his contribution. 2 strikers and a winger for £70m or so would do that with ease. Absolute ease.

Then pick another couple of problem positions.

The only down side is whether it'd have a short term impact. That is a problem with trading players, no doubt. But that's not certain, and pretty soon they'd be much better off.
 
They may be more consistent (and we can work on that). I don't think they're more talented overall.

I think that's another one of footballs greatest myths.

Consistency is a talent too for my money. The best players do good things more often than the decent ones, the highlight reels might look similar but that's about it.
 
I can't believe people think Spurs couldn't improve their squad with £100m from Bale. It's fucking mental. Bale is a good player, really good. But £80m+ for him is fucking insanity. Even accounting for the difficulties of inflation after selling a big player (questionable, IMO) and attracting players of a similar quality, they could replace him for about £50-60m IMO, *at the most*. Anything else will be profit.
They can certainly improve their squad. But will their team be a greater threat on match day? Who knows.
And THEY'RE NOT GETTING 100M FROM REAL!!
 
Who knows? If Madrid are mad enough to pay £85m then they will probably pay more. Also, £100m was the theoretical figure under discussion, that's why *I* used it, too.

But they would be able to improve their team AND their squad. It's not like they're Barca selling Messi, the crowning glory on a near-perfect team. They have plenty of weak areas to improve. It wouldn't even be difficult.
 
i think spurs would be better off with the money, they're doing a good job building a team that I think will have no problem getting top four this year, sell bale and get 2/3 first teamers and they'll be laughing. Their development is going the way ours was supposed to.
 
I think that's another one of footballs greatest myths.

Consistency is a talent too for my money. The best players do good things more often than the decent ones, the highlight reels might look similar but that's about it.

Nobody's denying that consistency is an attribute in a player, and an important one at that, but consistency and talent are not the same thing. If they were, only consistent players could be described as talented.
 
It's likely that Madrid's "85m" bid is made up of a lump sum cash (30-35m?) + 2 players way over-valued by them/on high wages.

I can't see Madrid paying anywhere near 80m cash for Bale.
 
Nobody's denying that consistency is an attribute in a player, and an important one at that, but consistency and talent are not the same thing. If they were, only consistent players could be described as talented.

I didn't say they were.

The more consistently a player applies his talent the better he is. A really simple point I would have thought.
 
I didn't say they were.

The more consistently a player applies his talent the better he is. A really simple point I would have thought.

Yes, you did. My original post indicated they were different. You took issue with it. A really simple point, I would have thought.
 
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