Luis Suarez pwned by the Lizards and is Staying, and has said sorry to BR and teammates

[Hansern]

Agreed regarding the disciplinary record and reputation which will take quite a few million of Suarez transfer fee.
But Bale has had 1 great season in his professional career at the age of 24. He's an outstanding player but hyped up to an even better one which is resulting in the inflated fee.

Their fee should be around the same imho. 50-55 mill.

 

[Whirly]

I would say Bale is worth around 10M more than Suarez between the age discrepencies, efficiency, and disciplinary record(Bale's Injury Record as well).

I think Bale tops out around 60M just because he's still quite young. Not sure about paying twice that number though.

 

[jexykrodic]

Suarez seems to be engaged in making himself the pariah of football, making himself less and less an attractive proposition in an age when public perception is paramount. He's a better player than Bale and he should realize it's his image that's limiting his prospects.

His agent, in my opinion would be better at this point in schooling his client in building up his image by going about business in a respectful, dignified and private way, getting some help in controlling his temper on pitch and becoming known solely for his footballing abilities.

A full season of behaving himself, keeping quiet and showing everyone his undoubted skills would make him highly desirable to cash rich clubs throughout Europe.

Some element of bad behaviour and single-mindedness on the way up is acceptable but the man is 26 and a world star and should know better particularly if he wants to be considered great.

By the way, he should realize he's a world star because he plays for Liverpool FC; if he were still at Ajax nobody would know about him.

 

[FoxForceFive]

Most reports say that real have set aside 100m for bale & that levy wants them to go above that figure.

It's fucking madness that any player would move for 100m, never mind Gareth bloody bale.

He's an excellent player, but his injury record isn't exactly great & doesn't deserve the tag of being the first player to top that milestone at all.

 

[iseered]

100m is insanity, hyperbale to the max.

 

[Stulikesdrums]

Would he shift the shirts in Asia a la Beckham & Ronaldo? Probably not.

 

[rubans]

I'm quiffing and I'm sure some comparison has been made already between the sort of fee Suarez is being linked with and that of Bale but IMO the correlation is way off.

IF Bale is deemed worthy of an £80m price tag (which he's not) then IMO Suarez is worth about the same (he'd be worth more if he wasn't 2 years older than Bale).

With some of the crazy transfer fees of recent years I'd say that "fair value" for BOTH these players is about £50m.

As already mentioned below, Real also buy players with marketable IP rights for their record breaking signings. Hard to market a bity, cheating racist around the world no matter how good a player he is so he will have a ceiling price while Bale's value can be anything Real are willing to pay...

 

[jexykrodic]

Real must be taking FFP seriously.

 

[rubans]

Real must be taking FFP seriously.

Only one taking it seriously is us and FSG, in fact we have banked our entire future on it so let's hope it pays off...

 

[Pesam]

Age and ability are two factors yes mate, but you've got to include attitude, history, professionalism, track record, reputation, and disciplinary record when evaluating multi-million pound investments. And on all of this, Suarez is a far riskier proposition, thus his value decreases in comparison to Bale.

True, but even if you factor in Suarez's disciplinary record I'd still rather splash out £40m for him than nearly twice that for Bale. Regardless of his faults I couldn't value him any lower than £45m (at today's over-inflated prices) and I wouldn't value Bale at anything above £50m.

 

[Molbystwin]

Age and ability are two factors yes mate, but you've got to include attitude, history, professionalism, track record, reputation, and disciplinary record when evaluating multi-million pound investments. And on all of this, Suarez is a far riskier proposition, thus his value decreases in comparison to Bale.

I think the baggage is over-played, he was pilloried here to an extent he wouldn't have been in say Spain. Luis aragones calling Henry a monkey, nobody batted an eyelid etc... I think the FA went out of there way to make an example of him twice, I doubt they would in Spain. You could argue Bale has more clean cut marketability but lets face it neither has the looks in the same way Ronaldo can boast. Bale is fast and not shit with the ball and yeah.. Worth a lot of money.... I just remember back to Owen being unstoppably quick... Suarez tough as teak. Whatever way you cut it Bale is simply not worth 46M more than Suarez, he just isn't and if I was in charge of Real shifting Ronaldo upfront to accommodate a still relatively inexperienced player for a princely sum is just mental when you seemingly can replace Higuain or Benzema up top with Suarez for comparative peanuts.

 

[keniget]

It boils down to what people are willing to pay and seems fairly clear that clubs would be willing to pay more for Bale than they would be for Suarez.

 

[Frogfish]

Most reports say that real have set aside 100m for bale & that levy wants them to go above that figure.

Supposedly the reason Levy is not interested is that Real's 100m Euro figure includes De Maria & Coentrao plus 35m euro cash. So unless you need those players (Spurs don't) then there isn't much value there is there ? Especially when you consider the wages those two are on. Levy wants cash .. can't blame him.

 

[FoxForceFive]

Supposedly the reason Levy is not interested is that Real's 100m Euro figure includes De Maria & Coentrao plus 35m euro cash. So unless you need those players (Spurs don't) then there isn't much value there is there ? Especially when you consider the wages those two are on. Levy wants cash .. can't blame him.

The report I heard this morning said they have 100m cash. Which is hard to believe, but as real have history of overspending to prove a point, isn't beyond comprehension.

 

[Mystic]

Supposedly the reason Levy is not interested is that Real's 100m Euro figure includes De Maria & Coentrao plus 35m euro cash. So unless you need those players (Spurs don't) then there isn't much value there is there ? Especially when you consider the wages those two are on. Levy wants cash .. can't blame him.

Spurs don't need Di Maria? And the rest.

 

[kingjulian]

Age and ability are two factors yes mate, but you've got to include attitude, history, professionalism, track record, reputation, and disciplinary record when evaluating multi-million pound investments. And on all of this, Suarez is a far riskier proposition, thus his value decreases in comparison to Bale.

You have just used so many different words to say the same thing... He has a baggage.... So did Ronaldo before he moved to Real.

You are chatting rubbish...

 

[Frogfish]

Spurs don't need Di Maria? And the rest.

Not since they've just bought a player for that postion - why would they buy two ? Or sell the player (forget his name for the moment) they bought last month ?

 

[BlitzAce]

Real can offer us Coentrao and Di Maria for Suarez if they want plus say 10mil

 

[Mystic]

Not since they've just bought a player for that postion - why would they buy two ? Or sell the player (forget his name for the moment) they bought last month ?

You make room for players who are significantly better than those you already have.

And Chadli is a youngster, he doesn't have to start all games.

 

[juniormember]

Real are valuing the two players at 50m, and offering 40m in cash plus those two for Bale, the last I heard.

Problem is that Real are valuing two players that are likely to warm the bench next season, on massive wages (which would depreciate their value) at a hugely overinflated price.
I completely understand why Levy would take the stance, and find Bale's camp's leaks, like him being 'furious with Levy' very interesting.

He's doing the same thing as Suarez, but more in the Torres way. Without spouting shite in public, but making sure certain things are leaked.

Interested to see the outcome. Spurs are ordinary without Bale. I'd love for them to lose him and for us to keep Suarez, and for Arse to miss out on all strikers, and for Moyes to keep getting rejected by clubs and players.
Would give me hope for the top 4.

 

[Woland]

Spurs without Bale is Spurs with 100m quid to spend on a squad that's already better than ours.

Theres no good outcome here. Well, there is one, and it involves a voodoo doll and my spell working before they sell the monkey faced cunt.

 

[juniormember]

Spurs without Bale is Spurs with 100m quid to spend on a squad that's already better than ours.

Theres no good outcome here. Well, there is one, and it involves a voodoo doll and my spell working before they sell the monkey faced cunt.

Ha.
But they won't be able to replace Bale with 100m. Just like us not being able to replace Suarez with 50m.
However much they have, it'll be a risk at this point. Obviously it could work out amazingly for them, but like us, they're out the Champions League, they'll have lost their best player, so they won't be a massive draw to the top players. Which means they'll have to pay out massive wages to great players. Which means the 100m will soon dry up.
Anyway, there's no way Real are going to give them 100m in cash. No way.

 

[RedStar]

The classic Real Madrid offer, $100 Million Deal announced in Marca, then it turns out theyve offered about $10 million and their kit man who they value at $90 million cos he used to wash Zidanes skivvies

 

[juniormember]

You reckon Bale and Suarez would be on the bench if they joined Real?? Not a chance.

Eh?

 

[Mystic]

Spurs without Bale is Spurs with 100m quid to spend on a squad that's already better than ours.

Theres no good outcome here. Well, there is one, and it involves a voodoo doll and my spell working before they sell the monkey faced cunt.

Without Bale, Spurs squad isn't better than ours.

 

[RedStar]

You reckon Bale and Suarez would be on the bench if they joined Real?? Not a chance.

Eh no, hes saying they are over valuing DiMaria and Coentrau

 

[iseered]

Gary doing a dreamy.

 

[RedStar]

Without Bale, Spurs squad isn't better than ours.

Correct, assuming they spend the Madrid money on Downing Carroll Hendo and Adam, if they dont then were fucked

 

[Gary25]

Eh no, hes saying they are over valuing DiMaria and Coentrau

Ahh right *deletes post*

 

[Mystic]

Correct, assuming they spend the Madrid money on Downing Carroll Hendo and Adam, if they dont then were fucked

Indeed, but without Bale they are quite a way behind us imo, they'll have to spend it well, I'd prefer them to keep Bale though, as at the moment I feel our squads are on par.