Because it will adversely affect us, unless we find someone of equal or better ability as a replacement, which is unlikely. While also strengthening Arsenal. If he goes, I'd prefer he went abroad.
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Because it will adversely affect us, unless we find someone of equal or better ability as a replacement, which is unlikely. While also strengthening Arsenal. If he goes, I'd prefer he went abroad.
Similar arguments were put forward with us re Torres, and by United fans when they sold RVP. They bought Carrick with the money and won the league for the first time in 3 years.
It's less about getting a direct replacement, and more about what's more beneficial for the team. I'd swap 2 or 3 great players that the team requires for one super player.
And I understand we can improve other areas with the money, but we seem to have another 20-25m available anyway. it also sends out the wrong message.
No, he just gets suspended all the time, may or may not randomly get assassinated by a Ghanaian hitman, and has a problem with biting people.
Eh? We sold Torres and have not been back to where we were since. With him we were playing in the CL and challenging for the title. Without him we have....................
RVP? I presume you RVN? Well my memory on him is hazy but wasn't he lazy and siding with Keane over the Ronaldo issue against Fergie? So it's not really a good comparison. To quote someone who knows their consanants better myself, Hello Apple meet Orange.
And even if you were to argue your point furthe for every success story you can produce where a team sold their best player and succeeded the following the season, there are loads of examples of those who haven't.
Plus you use examples of teams who are already established in the top (something we used to be until we sold our best striker to Chelsea) so if anything it only shows how vital keeping him is to getting a foothold back in the top 4.
Indeed so would I. But its a massive gamble to sell our guaranteed super star when we may or may not get 2/3 great players in his place.
Especially when we don't have CL footy to offer.
Once a season is hardly all the time?
I simply have to know what you mean by this DB!
I agree, we did conceed too many goals last season but Utd conceeded one more than we did and won the league because they scored about 15 more.
Ha Ryan used it on me earlier.
I never said it wasn't. It still doesn't equate to all the time though.
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Arsenal showing their ambition with this bid. Liverpool will find it hard to keep a player who wants to go. Now a squabble over clause. Liverpool insistent they don't have to sell but simply have to inform Suarez. Bet player agent feels different. Sure Liverpool will fight to keep him. But interesting if Suarez been pulled out of their friendly. I think Suarez keen to do the deal. Think a few missing point on bid being rejected. Will Arsenal go back? Will Suarez accept it if his camp believe clause entitles him to go? We'll see. Generally transfer stories take a while to play out. Quite sure Liverpool will fight to keep him. Fascinating story not over yet. If a clause is in a contract why on earth would you not try and act upon it? Some bonkers people on here. It's there for a reason. Clause says £40m, let's bid £60m. Yeah, good idea. What does £40,000,001 entitle you to do? That's the big question. Clearly, Suarez put it in there for a reason. His camp, I believe, feel it entitles them to more than just be informed. Liverpool clearly feel it doesn't and have turned down the bid. But very few mega deals get done quickly. This story will run for a bit yet. Arsenal found it impossible to keep RvP last summer. And he reported back for pre-season, too. It may be the same for Liverpool. Some very colourful abuse from Liverpool fans on here. I'm enthused, as a journalist, by a blockbusting story and nothing else. But other day Liverpool fans lauding fact he'd play in their friendly as a sign of loyalty. Now he may not they're saying he never was. Odd.
Arsenal showing their ambition with this bid. Liverpool will find it hard to keep a player who wants to go. Now a squabble over clause. Liverpool insistent they don't have to sell but simply have to inform Suarez. Bet player agent feels different. Sure Liverpool will fight to keep him. But interesting if Suarez been pulled out of their friendly. I think Suarez keen to do the deal. Think a few missing point on bid being rejected. Will Arsenal go back? Will Suarez accept it if his camp believe clause entitles him to go? We'll see. Generally transfer stories take a while to play out. Quite sure Liverpool will fight to keep him. Fascinating story not over yet. If a clause is in a contract why on earth would you not try and act upon it? Some bonkers people on here. It's there for a reason. Clause says £40m, let's bid £60m. Yeah, good idea. What does £40,000,001 entitle you to do? That's the big question. Clearly, Suarez put it in there for a reason. His camp, I believe, feel it entitles them to more than just be informed. Liverpool clearly feel it doesn't and have turned down the bid. But very few mega deals get done quickly. This story will run for a bit yet. Arsenal found it impossible to keep RvP last summer. And he reported back for pre-season, too. It may be the same for Liverpool. Some very colourful abuse from Liverpool fans on here. I'm enthused, as a journalist, by a blockbusting story and nothing else. But other day Liverpool fans lauding fact he'd play in their friendly as a sign of loyalty. Now he may not they're saying he never was. Odd.
Journalist hot on this topic of Arsenal's bid and the clause in Suarez's contract
Sounds like a London hack.
Guardiola must have told LFC when getting the contract extension that he wanted a buyout clause put in place.
I'm starting to think Ayre and his advisors then acted amazingly smart.
They might have said, 'sure thing mate, we'll put a clause in there. How does 40m sound, like?' Guradiola: 'Sounds good to me!'.
They then proceeded to put in a very vague 40m clause that can be interpreted any way they want. Has to be something like that.
I think if anything this transfer limbo shows Guardiola's absolute incompetence as a football agent, proving he's earning millions just because of who his brother is. I still can't for the life of me figure out why players pay so much money to agents.
Roy Keane used to simply employ his lawyer on the hour whenever contract negotiations were necessary. For a top player that's all you need.
I'm starting to think Ayre and his advisors then acted amazingly smart.
They might have said, 'sure thing mate, we'll put a clause in there. How does 40m sound, like?' Guradiola: 'Sounds good to me!'.
They then proceeded to put in a very vague 40m clause that can be interpreted any way they want. Has to be something like that.
I think if anything this transfer limbo shows Guardiola's absolute incompetence as a football agent, proving he's earning millions just because of who his brother is. I still can't for the life of me figure out why players pay so much money to agents.
Roy Keane used to simply employ his lawyer on the hour whenever contract negotiations were necessary. For a top player that's all you need.
You fail at English.
Why have they inserted a clause just to be informed of any bid (upon being triggered)? Wouldn't players know if bids get rejected via their agent (I'd think the bidding club would filter some sort of info through), especially if the bids are formal and put down in writing? Maybe it will allow the player and/or his agent to hold official talks and negotiations to listen to what the bidding club has to say (before the player decides whether to push for the move like submitting a transfer request etc.)?
That said, it is indeed perplexing how clauses work. Barcelona’s economic Vice-President Javier Faus said:
That said, it is indeed perplexing how clauses work. Barcelona’s economic Vice-President Javier Faus said:
Why did Bayern pay more than his clause? Did it only apply to within Spain or is it because the agreed deal is structured and not in straight cash thus doesn't trigger the clause automatically.
Says the man who used ot get his kicks off via a web cam
Read something on this before, tax reasons were mentioned:
The offensive midfielder has signed a four-year deal with the German club. Due to tax reasons, Bayern has paid a basic value of 20 million euro and 5 million euro of variables, which together is a 7 million euro more than the player's release clause.
Thiago has been Barcelona player since he was a 13-year-old, but in recent seasons he has not get as many chances to play as he has wanted. As a result, he decided to leave the Catalan club.
Manchester United and Real Madrid have also wanted the player. He decided to choose Bayern because of the admiration for Pep Guardiola. The Spanish coach himself looks at Thiago as a great addition to the German champions squad.
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this is massive for the club , they have to handle this well . As that journo mentions , madrid like to come in right at the last moment . If they play games he might start refusing to play like mascherano to get the move .We surely can't be left with a few days of the window to replace him .
and this clause thing is wrecking my head . Surely it's clear one way of the other and either someone (his agents) are playing games or we've fucked up . For Arsenal to bid that they must have spoken to his agent to know for certain (yes i know it in press already but someone leaked that and you't think arsenal would make sure rather then stab a guess on the back of a rumour) .
anyway we appear to have managed this ok so far but they need to put it to bed one way or another soon .
and this clause thing is wrecking my head . Surely it's clear one way of the other and either someone (his agents) are playing games or we've fucked up . For Arsenal to bid that they must have spoken to his agent to know for certain (yes i know it in press already but someone leaked that and you't think arsenal would make sure rather then stab a guess on the back of a rumour) .
anyway we appear to have managed this ok so far but they need to put it to bed one way or another soon .
When your mrs first moved away you posted about it on here once upon a time.
In any case I'm joking so stress less
Does John Cross work for the Mirror or Arsenal? Christ what a biased and one sided story, and tweets for that matter.
In other news, the bid has been rejected and apparantly BR will inform Suarez about the bid after the game later today.
Doesnt say anywhere that Suarez can now talk to Arsenal.
Higuain to Napoli is now a done deal apparantly. Lets see if Real means business.
If we sell to Arsenal then the people in charge can get to fuck imho.Suarez has acted as a cunt and if Real bid 45-50 mill I'd bite their hand off. BUT, we dont sell our best player to a rival. You dont strenghten the team you have to beat to get into the top 4 this season. Fuck that! I'd rather let him play in the ressies for a year.
In other news, the bid has been rejected and apparantly BR will inform Suarez about the bid after the game later today.
Doesnt say anywhere that Suarez can now talk to Arsenal.
Higuain to Napoli is now a done deal apparantly. Lets see if Real means business.
If we sell to Arsenal then the people in charge can get to fuck imho.Suarez has acted as a cunt and if Real bid 45-50 mill I'd bite their hand off. BUT, we dont sell our best player to a rival. You dont strenghten the team you have to beat to get into the top 4 this season. Fuck that! I'd rather let him play in the ressies for a year.
I reckon he already knows.
I don't think him and his agent are communicating via raven.
What if it's the other way around? Perhaps they don't have any real interest in him other than to make him unsettled?
Of course he knows. Dont you think there has to be some formal "chat" aswell as part of the clause?
Thats at least my take on it.
Arsenal wouldnt be bidding 40 mill + the 1 pound Carra threw back at the fans at Highbury if Pere Guardiola wasnt informing them about the "release clause".
