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Luis Suarez pwned by the Lizards and is Staying, and has said sorry to BR and teammates
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And why would the club do that ?
We're no longer idiots ... it seems ... so I can see us putting up to a value both parties agree on that becomes a 'proper' release clause.
To stop him forcing a move this summer?
What advantage is there for the club to do that ?
We don't need to do anything other than point to the current contract to do that
Quite, but it could still get messy, and he could hand in a transfer request, signing a new contract is the quickest and easiest way of putting an end to all of the speculation.
Yes but if he aggrees to be 100% committed to the cause and keep his mouth shut then it would be a decent compromise.
Could stick in a clause to that he loses wages if he gets banned for violent conduct next season
He could hand in a transfer request even if he signed a new deal (I'm not sure why him doing this is significant)
He's signed for three years. Keep him
and sell him next year - and tell him the price will be 50m next summer too so he better start playing like he's worth it if he wants to leave
It would end drama like we had this summer - he'd know, either we get an offer or we don't and that's it.
Doesn't it all entirely depend on the amount LFC might offer him and the terms put in place?
They won't (hopefully) be stupid enough to put us in a worse position than now.
If we're just bumping up his wages in order to shut him up, then yeah I agree it makes no sense, particularly as next summer will be the point where his value would be at its peak considering his age.
Has that not been the position all summer long ?
I guess, but I thought there was a mix-up with what the release clause meant? I think though I'm being too 'nice.' He's been a cunt, and there should be fuck-all reward for it, unless Madrid/PSG/Monaco offer us 50 million.
His agent was mixed up about it, but so far nobody has offered it anyway.
A release clause of 60m has no reality to it.
Aldridge: Arsenal's Suarez bid a 'stunt'
July 22, 2013
Liverpool legend John Aldridge has questioned whether Arsenal are serious in their pursuit of Uruguay striker Luis Suarez.
PA PhotosLiverpool legend John Aldridge believes Arsenal's bid for Luis Suarez (pic) could be a 'stunt'.
Aldridge believes Arsenal “were not serious” when they offered a reported £30m offer for Reds hit-man Suarezlast week, as he wonders whether the north London club are merely putting in offers for players they know they cannot sign in a bid to portray the impression of transfer ambition.
“Arsenal have yet to prove they are willing to offer a decent asking price for Suarez,” said Aldridge in his Sunday World newspaper column. “Okay, so they put in a bid of £30m for him, but do you really think Liverpool would sell their best player to a domestic rival for a knock-down fee?
“Of course they wouldn’t and Arsenal knew that when they knocked on the Anfield door with their derisory bid for Suarez. Come back with an offer that says we can have Jack Wilshere and £15m, then we will listen to you Mr Wenger.
“We are talking here about one of the best strikers in world football right now and in a week when you see his international team-mate Edinson Cavani joining Paris Saint-Germain for £60-odd million last week, it reminded us all of the value the commodity Liverpool have on their hands in Suarez.
“Arsenal are a very well-run club, they are in the Champions League every season and have a decent record of getting through to the knock-out stages of that competition, but they are hardly contenders for major honours any more than Liverpool are at this moment.
“If Arsenal are serious about getting back into the big-time, signing a player like Suarez would be a real statement of intent, but I suspect this move may be a publicity stunt.”
Suarez has hinted that he would consider a transfer to Arsenal despite his stated desire to join Real Madrid, but it remains to be seen whether the Gunners will meet Liverpool’s asking price in their bid to sign the striker.
July 22, 2013
Liverpool legend John Aldridge has questioned whether Arsenal are serious in their pursuit of Uruguay striker Luis Suarez.
PA PhotosLiverpool legend John Aldridge believes Arsenal's bid for Luis Suarez (pic) could be a 'stunt'.
Aldridge believes Arsenal “were not serious” when they offered a reported £30m offer for Reds hit-man Suarezlast week, as he wonders whether the north London club are merely putting in offers for players they know they cannot sign in a bid to portray the impression of transfer ambition.
“Arsenal have yet to prove they are willing to offer a decent asking price for Suarez,” said Aldridge in his Sunday World newspaper column. “Okay, so they put in a bid of £30m for him, but do you really think Liverpool would sell their best player to a domestic rival for a knock-down fee?
“Of course they wouldn’t and Arsenal knew that when they knocked on the Anfield door with their derisory bid for Suarez. Come back with an offer that says we can have Jack Wilshere and £15m, then we will listen to you Mr Wenger.
“We are talking here about one of the best strikers in world football right now and in a week when you see his international team-mate Edinson Cavani joining Paris Saint-Germain for £60-odd million last week, it reminded us all of the value the commodity Liverpool have on their hands in Suarez.
“Arsenal are a very well-run club, they are in the Champions League every season and have a decent record of getting through to the knock-out stages of that competition, but they are hardly contenders for major honours any more than Liverpool are at this moment.
“If Arsenal are serious about getting back into the big-time, signing a player like Suarez would be a real statement of intent, but I suspect this move may be a publicity stunt.”
Suarez has hinted that he would consider a transfer to Arsenal despite his stated desire to join Real Madrid, but it remains to be seen whether the Gunners will meet Liverpool’s asking price in their bid to sign the striker.
We have Suarez tied down for three years so on the surface of things we don't really need to offer a new contract as we're in a relatively strong position. But then I suppose Suarez also knows that we are not Real or PSG - we simply can't afford for him to lose his value massively either on the pitch or off of it, so he can make threats.
It's hard to speculate without knowing all the ins and outs regarding the new contract situation, that is, if it's actually true.
Perhaps there are some clauses in the existing one that neither party are happy with at this moment in time. Perhaps the club thought it the best way to mitigate risk in that they're not prepared to find out whether Suarez is bluffing about how far he'll take it. Perhaps they need him at the club to sell the club to a player they want to sign or perhaps they're negotiating some commercial deals that be easier if Suarez was kept calm and quiet for a while.
Who knows. It could well be that it's as simple as saying "you've got three years left on your contract, deal with it" but there could be a multitude of over considerations complicating matters behind the scenes also that we just don't get to hear about.
It's hard to speculate without knowing all the ins and outs regarding the new contract situation, that is, if it's actually true.
Perhaps there are some clauses in the existing one that neither party are happy with at this moment in time. Perhaps the club thought it the best way to mitigate risk in that they're not prepared to find out whether Suarez is bluffing about how far he'll take it. Perhaps they need him at the club to sell the club to a player they want to sign or perhaps they're negotiating some commercial deals that be easier if Suarez was kept calm and quiet for a while.
Who knows. It could well be that it's as simple as saying "you've got three years left on your contract, deal with it" but there could be a multitude of over considerations complicating matters behind the scenes also that we just don't get to hear about.
Of course he could, but I doubt he'd ask for a transfer straight after signing a new contract. On the face of it, yes there is little to no point, but it would end this transfer saga and allow us to focus at the year ahead, which is for the best for everyone.
Didn't he get a new contract last year? Why the fuck are we pandering to him like this?
I can see no benefit untie club with him signing a new contract other than it ending media speculation. Right now we have him on the perfect contract where we'll listen at 40m but can sell at any price we want. We'd be fools to change that unless we set a specific figure like 55m if we don't make top 4.
You're being naive.
You think Suarez signing a new contract is going to shut him up.
I'd say you're the naive one
It'd shut him up for now, the issue I think most people are missing though is that if he's signing a new deal, we're protecting ourselves regarding a decent sized release clause and we're readily admitting that he's likely to go soon anyway. Unless we work miracles this season, we'll only be here again next. Hopefully with a stronger hand regarding demanding a fee.
That IS naive though, if we know he's more than likely going to be off, we don't know the ins and outs, he may agree to stay for a season, if that's the case then it would make sense. I'd prefer to see us have a £50m release clause than for us to risk the fee being £15m less next season due to age etc.
A release clause doesn't protect the club in that way.
It gives us scope for a potential transfer, there's no guarantees in football, especially for clubs, but it gives us a stronger starting position.
Fuck off with your cliches.
A release clause exists for the benefit of the player, it was mentioned in the Bosman judgement that some certainty was needed for players to be able to know how they can get out of their contract.
We don't need a release clause to ask for 50m.
Anyway, I'm awaiting the big announcement ..... Any minute now
He has 3 years left on his contract on the current terms. We may tell him that we won't be selling and he can leave next season. Alternatively, we may well compromise by giving him an increase and putting up the release clause to allow him to leave next season if any such clause is met if we don't make the CL.
