Luis Suarez pwned by the Lizards and is Staying, and has said sorry to BR and teammates

[LeTallecWiz]

....and Napoli from Italy (should they sell Cavani)..

He'd be an excellent replacement and would probably be the second best player in that club's history by the time he moans 2 years later to move to Madrid!

 

[Oncy]

All you're pointing out is the fact that top clubs felt there were lots of better options open to them

Because hes a fuuuuckin eid-yat!!

 

[Oncy]

Or maybe we can just look at the real reason:

The club will only sell for 45-50 million (it seems).

Who can afford that?

Arsenal? Doubtful (do we really want to sell to a potential rival for a top 4 place?)
Chelsea? He doesn't want to go there it seems, so it's a non-starter
Manure? Hahahahahahhahaha
City? Possible - and no one else from England.

Bayern? Possibly - they may get involved - and no one else from Germany.

Juve? Could do, but signed their two strikers (Llorente + Tevez) - and no one else from Italy.

Barca? Could do, but signed their big name signing already (Neymar)
Madrid? #1 likely destination, but known to fuck us around and take their time - and no one else from Spain.

Monaco? Could do, but signed Falcao for 60 million. Doubtful they need another striker
PSG? Could do, but going after Cavani - and no one else from France.

So basically ... there's only 2-4 realistic options here, and they all know the club has the upper hand (we seem to be saying 'this price, or no). So there doesn't seem to be a rush unless we buckle, or one of those 2-4 clubs make a big offer and make this simple.

If he wasnt a fucking bellend who keeps getting banned I bet you there would be an offer by now. If you dont think other clubs are worried about his track record you are very naive man.

 

[mark1975]

If he wasnt a fucking bellend who keeps getting banned I bet you there would be an offer by now. If you dont think other clubs are worried about his track record you are very naive man.

I don't think that's necessarily the case, I think some thought they could use it as a means to knock down the price, hence the attempt to hold out as late as possible (as was reported about Madrid). The issue for the likes of Madrid is that they probably weren't banking on solid interest (and bids) from Arsenal, that's set the ball rolling, so it's hopefully given us the opportunity to trade him off and use the clubs against each other, especially if Suarez isn't keen to force the issue with English clubs, it means we get to say no to them without him kicking up a fuss, and in turn it keeps raising the price.

I still think he'll go and it'll be for less than Torres did, but hopefully it's at least £45m.

 

[keniget]

We're lucky - or not depending on which you view you take - that a number of top tier strikers were available this summer: Neymar, Cavani and Falcao. All three went to non-English clubs, which effectively leaves Real Madrid as Suarez's only real option abroad and they don't seem mad keen on him otherwise we'd be hearing about it regularly via Marca.

Back in England, City seem to be looking at Negredo and Jovetic and Arsenal really want Higuain if reports are to be believed. That only really leaves Chelsea - have they been linked with anyone and would Mourinho want a striker like Suarez?

 

[RedStar]

Isn't Suarez part of the problem why we're aren't challenging for honours with his lengthy bans contributing significantly?

Of course not, Luis Suarez deserves to have his teammates carry him into the Champions league on a litter like the pharaohs of old

 

[LeTallecWiz]

If he wasnt a fucking bellend who keeps getting banned I bet you there would be an offer by now. If you dont think other clubs are worried about his track record you are very naive man.

I think you're making far far bigger of a deal than this than it is in reality - you really think a team like Madrid give a shit after having Pepe on their team for 5 years? I mean seriously? Pepe's list of offenses are far longer than Suarez's and they've kept him, played him and stood by by him (until mid-season last month where he committed his most grevious offense, opened his mouth about Mourinho).

Assuming you know how Madrid often time do their business, they are trying to screw us. They may succeed ... They may not ... But they want one of the best players in the world at the lowest price possible, but thankfully - we have a long term contract that will ensure we don't get screwed (at least not over the next 2 summers if he stays).

 

[hamstrung_pigeon]

He'd be an excellent replacement and would probably be the second best player in that club's history by the time he moans 2 years later to move to Madrid!

Cavani's 93 goals in 121 games is a very hard act to follow; not sure Suarez will be able to stick around long enough to top that.

 

[Rafiagra]

Assuming you know how Madrid often time do their business, they are trying to screw us. They may succeed ... They may not ... But they want one of the best players in the world at the lowest price possible, but thankfully - we have a long term contract that will ensure we don't get screwed (at least not over the next 2 summers if he stays).

Exactly. It's their usual bullshit. Hopefully we've learned our lessons from past dealings

 

[mark1975]

We're lucky - or not depending on which you view you take - that a number of top tier strikers were available this summer: Neymar, Cavani and Falcao. All three went to non-English clubs, which effectively leaves Real Madrid as Suarez's only real option abroad and they don't seem mad keen on him otherwise we'd be hearing about it regularly via Marca.

Back in England, City seem to be looking at Negredo and Jovetic and Arsenal really want Higuain if reports are to be believed. That only really leaves Chelsea - have they been linked with anyone and would Mourinho want a striker like Suarez?

And given he's "laughed at the idea", I can't see that happening any time soon either.

 

[LeTallecWiz]

Cavani's 93 goals in 121 games is a very hard act to follow; not sure Suarez will be able to stick around long enough to top that.

But he's not won them much ... I have a weird feeling Rafa has arrived at Napoli just at the right time - where he's only faced with one real challenger to the league (Juve) and the other powers are weakened (Milan, Inter, Roma etc). If Suarez signs there and they win the league (and the talent is obviously there with or without Suarez), then his status will be higher than Cavani's ... Will never get close to Maradona's though.

 

[mark1975]

Well, Australia should be interesting, I'm sure we'll find out alot more about his intentions once he joins up with the squad, if he even turns up.

 

[LeTallecWiz]

Well, Australia should be interesting, I'm sure we'll find out alot more about his intentions once he joins up with the squad, if he even turns up.

That's the key really - if he doesn't show up, we may be fucked. If he does, then we really do hold all the cards.

 

[mark1975]

That's the key really - if he doesn't show up, we may be fucked. If he does, then we really do hold all the cards.

If he does that we should go to fucking town on him.

 

[keniget]

I don't think we'd be fucked. Suarez still has career to protect and he's got a long contract with us.

Even Tevez was brought back into line eventually, although granted City can afford to take the hit.

 

[Whirly]

I don't think we'd be fucked. Suarez still has career to protect and he's got a long contract with us.

Even Tevez was brought back into line eventually, although granted City can afford to take the hit.

Didn't City fine him a boatload of money anyways?

 

[mark1975]

I don't think we'd be fucked. Suarez still has career to protect and he's got a long contract with us.

Even Tevez was brought back into line eventually, although granted City can afford to take the hit.

True, they then undid all the good work by bringing him back into the fold, which didn't do them any good last season.

 

[keniget]

True, they then undid all the good work by bringing him back into the fold, which didn't do them any good last season.

I might be mistaken but didn't he come back towards the end of the title winning season and contribute some important performances?

Not that it matters really. I don't think Suarez will go to the extremes of Tevez anyway.

Another ace up our sleeve is that it's World Cup year and Suarez will want to play.

 

[LeTallecWiz]

I don't think we'd be fucked. Suarez still has career to protect and he's got a long contract with us.

Even Tevez was brought back into line eventually, although granted City can afford to take the hit.

That's why I said 'may' - it all depends on how badly Suarez wants out. If it's really that bad (i.e. media - which I think is BS), then he may go to the extreme Mascherano went. Let's be honest - he starts for Uruguay, whether he plays for us or stays in his home. If he just wants European footy etc, then I think he'll most likely report and be ace because he doesn't know how not to give 100%.

Good example re: Tevez, who scored a boat load of goals - if I remember correctly - with Aguero when they won the league 18 months ago. I think Tevez is a bit more mentally unstable than Suarez though.

 

[Rafiagra]

If he thinks he's got shit off the press, wait until the scals get hold of him if he doesn't turn up with the squad.

 

[LeTallecWiz]

The Mirror is running with a story that we'd talk to the Gunners if they offered us 40 million ... and that Ancelotti wants to keep Higuain.

I really can't see us dealing directly with one of our biggest rivals for 4th (Them & Spurs). Strengthening them like that - regardless of the money we're getting - may not be the wisest thing to do.

 

[Judge Jules]

I'd be very surprised - and even more disappointed - if that story turns out to be true.

 

[Glen C]

That's why I said 'may' - it all depends on how badly Suarez wants out. If it's really that bad (i.e. media - which I think is BS), then he may go to the extreme Mascherano went. Let's be honest - he starts for Uruguay, whether he plays for us or stays in his home. If he just wants European footy etc, then I think he'll most likely report and be ace because he doesn't know how not to give 100%.

Good example re: Tevez, who scored a boat load of goals - if I remember correctly - with Aguero when they won the league 18 months ago. I think Tevez is a bit more mentally unstable than Suarez though.

Not really relevant as it looks like uruguay aren't going to qualify for the world cup. But if he stays i can't see him not giving 100% as he's a winner.

 

[Buddha]

I'd be very surprised - and even more disappointed - if that story turns out to be true.

I guess it depends on the perception of him within the club. It'd be a bold move, but if Rodgers and others believe Suarez has become a problem within the team/club I imagine they'd be tempted to take 40m to make the problem go away.

 

[Glen C]

I guess it depends on the perception of him within the club. It'd be a bold move, but if Rodgers and others believe Suarez has become a problem within the team/club I imagine they'd be tempted to take 40m to make the problem go away.

don't care the scenario the club shouldn't even contemplate selling to another english club. Outside the premiership or not at all. Even then he still hasn't handed a transfer request.

 

[Whirly]

I feel like Suarez is a terrible fit for Arsenal though. Feels like a move that could backfire tremendously on them and Suarez if it goes through.

 

[LeTallecWiz]

From James Pearce:

With every interview Luis Suarez gives , the feeling of anger and despair among Kopites grows. If the gifted striker truly cares about Liverpool FC, he has a very strange way of showing it.

A damaging summer-long saga drags painfully on with the Uruguayan repeatedly fluttering his eyelashes in the direction of potential suitors .

Every time he speaks publicly in his homeland the disrespect towards both his employers and the supporters who took him to their hearts is staggering.

From the moment the Football Association hit Suarez with a 10-game ban for biting Chelsea’s Branislav Ivanovic in April, Liverpool knew their 30-goal top scorer, left devastated by the severity of the punishment, may seek to engineer a transfer.

Yet Brendan Rodgers believed the Reds’ unswerving support for the player – coupled with a commitment to help him combat his demons – would help convince him to stay put.

Make no mistake, Suarez owes Liverpool.

Yes, the Reds have benefited greatly from his breathtaking talent over the past two and a half years but they have also paid a heavy price for his shortcomings.

He heaped shame on the club when he sunk his teeth into Ivanovic’s arm. He did likewise when he racially abused Patrice Evra and then refused to shake his hand.

He has been suspended for an eye-watering 20 matches.

The least Liverpool deserved for standing by Suarez was some honesty but even that has proved beyond him.

Rather than informing Reds officials directly of his desire to move on, he waited until he was 6,500 miles away from Anfield in late May before telling them via the South American media.

He claimed he had to quit England because he had been ‘attacked unfairly by the UK press’ which meant his family were ‘suffering’. “I don’t feel comfortable any more,” he said.

Trying to suggest he was the victim of a witch hunt was laughable. He has always been his own worst enemy.

Suarez went on to speak glowingly about the attraction of signing for Real Madrid, saying he would give his ‘soul’ for them every time he played.

Shell-shocked, Liverpool responded with a strongly worded statement making it abundantly clear that the 26-year-old was not for sale.

Their stance hasn’t wavered since with the fact that he’s under contract for a further three years putting the Reds firmly in control.

Six weeks on, Madrid still haven’t made their move. No-one has come close to testing Liverpool’s resolve by offering anything close to the £50million it would require for the club to consider doing business.

Only Arsenal, with a derisory £30million bid which was instantly rejected, have made any kind of approach and it seems that Suarez is starting to get desperate.

Why else would he interrupt his holiday this week to give an interview to a Uruguayan radio station? It came across as a lame attempt to drum up more interest.

Having previously talked about the necessity of quitting England, Suarez performed a remarkable U-turn.

Refusing to rule out the prospect of joining a rival Premier League club, he said he was flattered by the Gunners’ approach. He said: “It is good to know that I am still valued by teams like Arsenal.”

Suarez confirmed he will report back for duty at Melwood on July 21 and then fly to Melbourne for the pre-season tour but warned ‘a phone call can change everything... Liverpool know what I want’.

For Kopites, whose patience with Suarez has been tested to the limit, it was galling.

Not even Fernando Torres behaved this badly when he was trying to force through a move in January 2011.

At least Torres didn’t issue his ‘come and get me’ pleas publicly before finally putting in a transfer request to get his £50million switch to Chelsea.

Suarez appears destined to join Torres on the list of fallen Kop idols. A player who could have gone down as one of the Reds’ all-time greats but tarnished his legacy by the manner in which he left.

“I always tell fans to fall in love with the club, not with individual players,” said Liverpool legend John Barnes.

Wise words in an age when so many stars kiss the badge, take the money and pay lip service to the cause. The sad reality is that Suarez merely sees Liverpool as a stepping stone. He’s simply passing through.

Suarez could have handled this sorry mess so much better.

If he had simply spoken about the lure of Champions League football with Madrid many Reds fans would have understood. After all, he’s a world class marksman worthy of rubbing shoulders with Europe’s elite.

Liverpool can’t currently offer him that.


But Suarez would be wise to remember that he played the best football of his career under Rodgers last season. It was Liverpool’s system and style which got him operating at the peak of his powers.

Suarez said this week he has ‘two or three options’ but in fact at the moment he only has one – return to Liverpool.

There is still a way back for him at Anfield. Knuckle down, score goals and all will be forgiven if not forgotten.

What happens next in this soap opera is unclear.

But as Suarez waits expectantly for a call from Spain, it’s time he stopped putting the boot into Liverpool and took a vow of silence.
He has said far too much already.

 

[hmmmmm1]

Hard to argue with that.

 

[Glen C]

Rodgers wants Suarez to stay: 'We speak every day and we don't want to sell him'

By Nik Simon
PUBLISHED: 10:26, 12 July 2013 | UPDATED: 10:27, 12 July 2013
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Brendan Rodgers has moved to allay fears that Luis Suarez is on his way out of Liverpool, saying that he has been in contact with the striker every day and does not want to sell him.
Arsenal had a £30million bid for the Uruguay international rejected last week and Suarez admitted that at least three clubs are interested in signing him.
Suarez is on a scheduled break after the Confederations Cup and Rodgers hopes the 26-year-old will remain a Liverpool player and return to training on July 21.

Back in action: Rodgers leads a pre-season training session on Monday
'I've spoken to Luis, over the course of the last few months there's been a lot of speculation with Luis because of his situation and what happened,' Rodgers told talkSPORT.
'But the facts remain the same, we value the player, he had a terrific season for us last year and showed his qualities.'
'I've been in communication with him, through texts and conversations on the phone and it's pretty much the same: He's a very valued player, an absolute magician on the football field.

Wantaway? Suarez has a penalty appeal turned down playing for Uruguay at the Confederations Cup
'We'll communicate in some way nearly every day, either through text or through a conversation.'
Liverpool will be desperate to keep hold of their top scorer who told a Uruguayan radio station that 'one phone call could change everything'.
Suarez found the net for Liverpool 23 times in the Premier League last season and, in spite of his poor disciplinary record, was still in the running for Player of the Season.
His goals were not enough to secure European football but Rodgers insists that Suarez is the man to drive the club forward.
Rodgers added: 'What he did was wrong at the end of last season, you can't do that on a football pitch, and it was something that was written about, but we've moved on from that.

Goals: Rodgers wants to keep his top scorer at Anfield next season
'With Luis, he's a real competitor, a real winner and wants Liverpool to do so well, but like every player, every manager, or more importantly every football club, he wants to be working at the highest level.
'For us, he's on a break, he was in the Confederations Cup, he's relaxing with his family, we're in constant communication.
'He has three years left on his contract, we don't want to sell him, and we hope that everything will be fine for the summer.
'We want to bring a few more players in to reinforce the group and we think we can put up a real fight next season.'

Captain fantastic: Gerrard trains at Liverpool's Melwood Training Ground last week

New faces: Kolo Toure tries to cool down during a training session on Thursday

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[Athens]

It's times like this that it comes in handy that Rodgers can speak Spanish.

That way Suarez will definitely understand him when Rodgers tells him to stop being a cunt.