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Luis Suarez pwned by the Lizards and is Staying, and has said sorry to BR and teammates

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Well Brendan's doing a shit job as manager then.
If he's been in contact with Suarez almost everyday since the end of te season, he's had something like 50 opportunities to tell him to shut the fuck up.
What does he communicate exactly?
 
I hope we play hard ball...... 50M or you will be still here next season Suarez to honour your contract.

Indeed it could all explode in our own faces if he becomes the madman of football again.... But fuck this pandering to players all the time.

Doing that will set an impression to our own internal staff and also send a message out to anyone wanting to buy our players that you pay the going rate.
 
Mystic said:
A managers job isn't to stop someone speaking their mind, that's the job of a dictator.
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Come on, that's taking it to the extreme.

There aren't very many employers, if any, that will tolerate someone airing dirty laundry in public.
 
Whirly said:
I feel like Suarez is a terrible fit for Arsenal though. Feels like a move that could backfire tremendously on them and Suarez if it goes through.
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Sounds ideal, the last thing we want is for him to go there and improve them, a spectacular failure on the scale of Torres would do quite nicely
 
keniget said:
Come on, that's taking it to the extreme.

There aren't very many employers, if any, that will tolerate someone airing dirty laundry in public.
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Yeh, I was being extreme, but my point remains, Rodgers can ask him not to talk, but at the end of the day there is very little he can do to prevent him from talking as it's his choice, and as far as i'm aware, he's yet to say anything derogatory about the club.
 
Yes, he's been the model employee.
Yes, it's wrong for an employer or superior in a company to tell an employee to behave properly in public, as well as in the media.
Mystic you blind fucker.
 
Mystic said:
Yeh, I was being extreme, but my point remains, Rodgers can ask him not to talk, but at the end of the day there is very little he can do to prevent him from talking as it's his choice, and as far as i'm aware, he's yet to say anything derogatory about the club.
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Rodgers can *tell* him not to talk in public and fine the @rse off him if he disregards that. He may not have said anything directly derogatory but trailing his coat in front of other clubs hardly reflects favourably on LFC.
 
You think because he plays for our football club he's not allowed to talk to the press about his aspirations? I'm not the blind one here, you are. You seem to have this unrealistic expectation about what being a footballer player at this club means. It's not a relationship, it's a job, end of. Rodgers can ask him not to talk, but if he's not saying directly derogatory things about the club, which he isn't, then there's nothing he can do about it, so suggesting Rodgers is doing a shit job is pathetic. Suarez can talk about other clubs all he likes, we, and the club may not like him for it, and he's not doing himself any favours if he doesn't go, but there's fuck all we can do about it.
 
Judge Jules said:
Rodgers can *tell* him not to talk in public and fine the @rse off him if he disregards that. He may not have said anything directly derogatory but trailing his coat in front of other clubs hardly reflects favourably on LFC.
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He can't fine him. He's done nothing which is against his contract.
 
Every employee in any kind of job owes a duty to his employer not to act in a way which is detrimental to the business. Contracts are over and above that, not in place of it. Rodgers has a perfect right to order Suarez to shut his yap and discipline him if he doesn't comply.
 
Feels like Wenger is daydreaming imho.
So far they've "bid" for Fellaini, Jovetic, Higuain, Julio Cesar and Suarez.
The first 4 have either turned them down or stalling (Higuain).
The move for Suarez smells of pleasing their own fans with big bids.
They must know its a no go unless they pay 50-60 mill
 
The arse have a reported £70 million to spend so doubt they will bid 50 of that for luis.

Also it as reported in evening standard that fellani clause expires the middle of August.
 
Mystic said:
You think because he plays for our football club he's not allowed to talk to the press about his aspirations? I'm not the blind one here, you are. You seem to have this unrealistic expectation about what being a footballer player at this club means. It's not a relationship, it's a job, end of. Rodgers can ask him not to talk, but if he's not saying directly derogatory things about the club, which he isn't, then there's nothing he can do about it, so suggesting Rodgers is doing a shit job is pathetic. Suarez can talk about other clubs all he likes, we, and the club may not like him for it, and he's not doing himself any favours if he doesn't go, but there's fuck all we can do about it.
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What difference does it make if he is directly or indirectly derogatory?

He's being a cunt either way.
 
He is being a cunt and in my mind that means we should not even consider helping him along without obtaining the full market value for him. He is right up there amongst the very best players in the world, top drawer striker in his peak. In a market where hopeful punts are 15M plus if the big boys want him they should make sure they've got a good few wheel barrows full of readies nearby.
 
Rosco said:
What difference does it make if he is directly or indirectly derogatory?

He's being a cunt either way.
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I don't disagree, he's being a monumental bellend and alienating the fans and the club, all I'm saying that we can't discipline him, or force him to keep his mouth shut, meaning that juniormembers original statement of "Well Brendan's doing a shit job as manager then." is a load of bollocks. Do you not feel that's the case?
 
Judge Jules said:
Every employee in any kind of job owes a duty to his employer not to act in a way which is detrimental to the business. Contracts are over and above that, not in place of it. Rodgers has a perfect right to order Suarez to shut his yap and discipline him if he doesn't comply.
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He doesn't have any grounds to discipline him based on what he's said. Have you ever heard of a player being disciplined based on talking to the press about where they'd like to play before?

Fans seem to have this unrealistic idea that a football club is a god that the player must worship until another god takes him off away, it's rubbish.

If, for whatever reason, a reporter asked me in the street whether I would like to be a programmer at Microsoft, and I said I would love to, would my current employers discipline me? or fine me? would I be breaching the terms of my contract? Would I fuck.
 
Mystic said:
He doesn't have any grounds to discipline him based on what he's said. Have you ever heard of a player being disciplined based on talking to the press about where they'd like to play before?

Fans seem to have this unrealistic idea that a football club is a god that the player must worship until another god takes him off away, it's rubbish.

If, for whatever reason, a reporter asked me in the street whether I would like to be a programmer at Microsoft, and I said I would love to, would my current employers discipline me? or fine me? would I be breaching the terms of my contract? Would I fuck.
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Exaggerated nonsense, quite unlike you.

He hasn't just said where he'd like to play (though that's bad enough when done in public, which is the crucial point you seem determined to ignore, and I'd be prepared to bet that players have indeed been disciplined for it before now, whether or not Joe Public got to hear about it). He's said that interest from one of our direct rivals "makes him feel wanted", the clear implication being that he doesn't otherwise, i.e.by us. This has bugger all to do with "worshipping gods" and everything to do with (a) showing some loyalty to a club which stood by him through thick and thin, much of it of his own making, and (b) not using the press to flutter his eyelashes publicly at other clubs, some of whom we have to compete with.
 
He said he has 2 or 3 options

No, he doesnt

He either suspects it, and shouldn't talk that way, or he knows and he's in breach of contract by talking to other clubs without our permission.
 
Mystic said:
He doesn't have any grounds to discipline him based on what he's said. Have you ever heard of a player being disciplined based on talking to the press about where they'd like to play before?

Fans seem to have this unrealistic idea that a football club is a god that the player must worship until another god takes him off away, it's rubbish.

If, for whatever reason, a reporter asked me in the street whether I would like to be a programmer at Microsoft, and I said I would love to, would my current employers discipline me? or fine me? would I be breaching the terms of my contract? Would I fuck.
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A truly shit example, but what the hell, for arguments sake..
If you weren't a nobody, but instead the head of iOS development at Apple, then went to the media every single fucking day talking about wanting to work for google's Android development team, you'd be in deep deep shit with Apple.
Can you not see that? Really? You think it's the norm?
 
juniormember said:
A truly shit example, but what the hell, for arguments sake..
If you weren't a nobody, but instead the head of iOS development at Apple, then went to the media every single fucking day talking about wanting to work for google's Android development team, you'd be in deep deep shit with Apple.
Can you not see that? Really? You think it's the norm?
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He prefers windows phones
 
Judge Jules said:
Exaggerated nonsense, quite unlike you.

He hasn't just said where he'd like to play (though that's bad enough when done in public, which is the crucial point you seem determined to ignore, and I'd be prepared to bet that players have indeed been disciplined for it before now, whether or not Joe Public got to hear about it). He's said that interest from one of our direct rivals "makes him feel wanted", the clear implication being that he doesn't otherwise, i.e.by us. This has bugger all to do with "worshipping gods" and everything to do with (a) showing some loyalty to a club which stood by him through thick and thin, much of it of his own making, and (b) not using the press to flutter his eyelashes publicly at other clubs, some of whom we have to compete with.
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You're missing my point, I'm not denying that Suarez "should" be doing those things, I'm saying that we have no grounds to punish him for what he's doing, and that Rodgers isn't a shit manager for not being able to stop him from doing it. I'm not ignoring the fact it's in the public eye at all, I thought the fact I reference a reporter (a vessel for public information) in my analogy would have shown that I'm not, regardless, it has little to no bearing as he's said nothing which is in breach of his contract.

There is nothing wrong with saying interest from a rival makes him feel wanted, there's nothing wrong with him saying he wants to play for Real Madrid or in the champions league, they're cuntish things for him to say no doubt, but it's not something he can be disciplined for. If he was to say "Liverpool are a poor club and Brendan is a manager I have no respect for, and I want to move", well then thats a different story altogether.
 
He should tow the fucking line and assume all other clubs havebad aids and he doesn't want to all about them.

That's what footballers should do.

He however fancies going "real is boss", and what, we pay your wages, don't big up another club when we're trying to sign players. "arsenal flatter me", give a fuck. We flattered you by making t shirts of your racist buck toothed face.

"Liverpool know what I want". Bully for us, but you've got a contract so shut the cunt up you twat. That's what WE want

"a phone call could change everything ", correct, Ian Ayre phoning you saying" you're going no where, report to the reserves"
 
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