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great... now he will be slower as well as crap!


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HEAVYWEIGHT LUCAS READY FOR PL FIGHT
Jimmy Rice 12 June 2009

Lucas Leiva believes next season will be his best yet following a gruelling push to gain weight.
The Brazil international accepts he was too lightweight after making the move from Gremio two years ago.
He puts his improved form in the latter stages of last season down to piling on the pounds.
Lucas thinks he is now 100 per cent ready for the physical demands of the toughest league in the world.
"I have gained some weight this season and that has helped me be more prepared to play with the demands you face in England," he told LFC Magazine.
"I have gained four kilos since I arrived and that's a lot.
"In my first season, being very honest, I had a problem with physical games.
"Last season, with the extra weight, I felt I could challenge anyone physically and go from one box to the other like I did in Brazil.
"Maybe it has taken me 18 months to get my body physically into the shape that it needed to be in to play my best in England, but I feel that it is coming now for me and I am excited about my future prospects at Liverpool."
Another reason Lucas is confident of enjoying a superb 2009-10 is the fact he will partake in a full pre-season - something the Olympics denied him last term.
"I missed a lot of the pre-season last time with Liverpool because I was away at the Olympics with Brazil," he explained.
"That meant that I started the pre-season, then I went away, and when I came back to the club it was hard to catch up. I had missed a lot of the important work that the boys all did together.
"Next season I will be here for the whole of the pre-season programme and I believe that will help me play to the very best of my ability when we start again in August.
"I will enjoy a rest in the summer, but already I am looking at coming back and being a better player next season."
Lucas suffered mixed reviews from the press during his first 18 months in England, though never lost the support of his manager.
One of the turning points came when he received plaudits for a mature display in Liverpool's 4-1 win at Old Trafford.
The 22-year-old believes the ups and downs of his Anfield career have made him stronger mentally.
"As an individual player I feel that I have become a better player this season, definitely," he added.
"Everyone has bad days at the office when they feel that maybe they haven't played to 100 per cent of what they are capable of.
"I have had those days, too. Of course I have because we all have them.
"But through that I have made progress mentally and physically.
"I think this has been the season which has taught me the most about myself. I have had bad moments over the last year with the crowd.
"That has made it important for me to focus on my football and not be distracted by anything else going on around me.
"It was hard at times, but it will all be helpful for me in the long term.
"You get better through the hard times and not through the easy or good times. It gave me a challenge and I think I was able to rise to that.
"I knew I had the quality to be playing in this team, even through the difficult moments. I had the confidence of the manager and the players and even if some supporters were not sure I knew that others were behind me.
"Mentally I'm a better player. I've had the tough times and I've coped well with it and come through the other side.
"I wasn't worried about silencing people. In football you will always have your critics but you have to just keep going and hopefully when they see that you are playing well, trying hard and always doing your best, they will come onto your side.
"From my point of view, next season will be my best for Liverpool. I feel better physically and mentally at this moment than I have felt before at Liverpool."
 
Haha.
My mate says Lucas is the worst Brazilian since David Blunkett took a set of clippers to his wifes muff!!!

regards
 
Well, we all said that he needed to spend a lot of time in the gym bulking up after his first season, so at least he's been trying to put things right behind the scenes and to some degree, the improvement in that respect has been noticeable on the field. Still, the phsyical element of the game just doesn't seem to come all that naturally to him.
 
His ability and fit for us aside, he's got a very good attitude, and has conducted himself with dignity and professionalism. There's something there, but I don't think its meant for England. As shit as he has been, I have some sympathy for him about his being booed, and his reaction to it has been good.
 
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=34121.msg886790#msg886790 date=1244795118]
His ability and fit for us aside, he's got a very good attitude, and has conducted himself with dignity and professionalism. There's something there, but I don't think its meant for England. As shit as he has been, I have some sympathy for him about his being booed, and his reaction to it has been good.
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agree with that entierly[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=34121.msg886786#msg886786 date=1244793705]
Haha.
My mate says Lucas is the worst Brazilian since David Blunkett took a set of clippers to his wifes muff!!!

regards
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just pissed myself ever so slightly over that one
 
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=34121.msg886790#msg886790 date=1244795118]
His ability and fit for us aside, he's got a very good attitude, and has conducted himself with dignity and professionalism. There's something there, but I don't think its meant for England. As shit as he has been, I have some sympathy for him about his being booed, and his reaction to it has been good.
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I'll go with that - I hope he surprises us this year.
 
[quote author=cochyn link=topic=34121.msg886795#msg886795 date=1244796165]
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=34121.msg886790#msg886790 date=1244795118]
His ability and fit for us aside, he's got a very good attitude, and has conducted himself with dignity and professionalism. There's something there, but I don't think its meant for England. As shit as he has been, I have some sympathy for him about his being booed, and his reaction to it has been good.
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agree with that entierly[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=34121.msg886786#msg886786 date=1244793705]
Haha.
My mate says Lucas is the worst Brazilian since David Blunkett took a set of clippers to his wifes muff!!!

regards
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just pissed myself ever so slightly over that one
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I thought it was funny too ;D


regards
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=34121.msg886786#msg886786 date=1244793705]
Haha.
My mate says Lucas is the worst Brazilian since David Blunkett took a set of clippers to his wifes muff!!!

regards
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Ha ha.

Still, I hope Lucas proves us all wrong next season.
 
I for one will be wiping the slate clean for the new season when it comes to Lucas. He's found it hard to adapt thus far but it's time for him to step it up now.

I really hope he can prove us all wrong - he certainly comes across as a really likeable chap in all his interviews.
 
A fatter Lucas. I just cant wait. Can't contain myself of the thought of how a bigger fatter Lucas is gonna boss our fucking midfield.

It might have a slight impact on his pace though? Will he drop from the speed of light to the speed of sound?
 
Tbh, I'm not sure it has anything to do with size. Even before he turned into Mr Universe, Lucas was still bigger than Mascherano, surely? It's a question of bravery and desire, not muscle mass.
 
If Lucas and Babel can surprise us and both have a good season, the title will be ours.

I'm foolishly believing it will happen.
 
[quote author=Mamma Mia link=topic=34121.msg886805#msg886805 date=1244797316]
If Lucas and Babel can surprise us and both have a good season, the title will be ours.

I'm foolishly believing it will happen.
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Haha. Now that's what I call optimistic.
 
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=34121.msg886819#msg886819 date=1244799184]
[quote author=Mamma Mia link=topic=34121.msg886805#msg886805 date=1244797316]
If Lucas and Babel can surprise us and both have a good season, the title will be ours.

I'm foolishly believing it will happen.
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Haha. Now that's what I call optimistic.
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Let's join his bandwagon Sunny ... What's the worst that can happen? We're proven wrong? We'll just it was a cross! 🙂
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=34121.msg886803#msg886803 date=1244797078]
Tbh, I'm not sure it has anything to do with size. Even before he turned into Mr Universe, Lucas was still bigger than Mascherano, surely? It's a question of bravery and desire, not muscle mass.

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So true!

"Mentally I'm a better player. I've had the tough times and I've coped well with it and come through the other side.
"I wasn't worried about silencing people.

Didn´t notice he came through his tough patch or that he has silenced people?
 
Maybe if he sees a few more muscles in the mirror he will grow a pair of balls...its all in his head 🙂

His attitude has always been good thats why i have never disliked him, his tackling is hilarious sometimes though.

He must be learning something at the club:

steven-gerrard-1_1126267c.jpg
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=34121.msg886803#msg886803 date=1244797078]
Tbh, I'm not sure it has anything to do with size. Even before he turned into Mr Universe, Lucas was still bigger than Mascherano, surely? It's a question of bravery and desire, not muscle mass.

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Mascherano is stronger. Smaller yes, but Tevez and Mascher have shown great strength inspite of their size. We can't expect everyone to be a pint sized dynamo. Lucas needed to work on his strength for sure. Towards the end of the season, we could see that. But he needs to work on it a lot more.

I'm ready to wipe the slate clean and see what he is capable of next season. If he improves a bit (ok quite a bit...and he says he has), he would be good for the fourth choice CM.
 
Having the extra strengh will no doubt improve his confidence making him more likely to compete for the 50/50's

Can't see any drastic turnaround in his fortunes, though.
 
who u all kiddin? he's shit, he's on everyone's i wish he was gone list and he'll never make it here. quicker he leaves the better it is for everyone including him
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=34121.msg886945#msg886945 date=1244809076]
I might as well type it cos I do every other time:

Lucas is a good player.
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He is a good player but it's just when there's opposition, that's the problem.
 
[quote author=Markeh link=topic=34121.msg886926#msg886926 date=1244807947]
Maybe if he sees a few more muscles in the mirror he will grow a pair of balls...its all in his head 🙂

His attitude has always been good thats why i have never disliked him, his tackling is hilarious sometimes though.

He must be learning something at the club:

steven-gerrard-1_1126267c.jpg

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looks like hes is taking a nap on Gerrards shoulder...
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=34121.msg886945#msg886945 date=1244809076]
I might as well type it cos I do every other time:

Lucas is a good player.
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He is. He's just a tad feeble is all.
 
[quote author=rage link=topic=34121.msg886973#msg886973 date=1244812086]
who u all kiddin? he's shit, he's on everyone's i wish he was gone list and he'll never make it here. quicker he leaves the better it is for everyone including him
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I suppose we could sign Iniesta for midfield cover?

If only all our players down the years showed such committment and attitude we would be laughing, especially in an era when loyalty means hardly anything in football.

Get behind Lucas, you twats.
 
It's interesting to note that positive sentiment about Lucas grows the further in our memory his last performance is.
 
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[quote author=rage link=topic=34121.msg886973#msg886973 date=1244812086]
who u all kiddin? he's shit, he's on everyone's i wish he was gone list and he'll never make it here. quicker he leaves the better it is for everyone including him
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I suppose we could sign Iniesta for midfield cover?

If only all our players down the years showed such committment and attitude we would be laughing, especially in an era when loyalty means hardly anything in football.

Get behind Lucas, you twats.


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Commitment and attitude? In an era when loyalty means nothing?

I'd hazard a guess that you put commitment and loyalty first time round, otherwise the second part doesn't make sense, and then you realised how long he's actually been with us and decided to change it.

Either way, commitment and attitude take a multitude of guises, including fully committing to 50-50 challenges, and having the right attitude to win them.

For what it's worth, I've seen enough of Lucas to believe that in there somewhere is a decent player waiting to get out - when he feels like it he has a cracking eye for a pass, unfortunately most of the time he feels like passing it sideways or backwards. If he can sort that out, and learn how to tackle, he can be alright IMO.

Basically I think since he's been with us he's bottled it, and that comes down to attitude again. He needs to man up
 
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=34121.msg887227#msg887227 date=1244857570]
[quote author=rage link=topic=34121.msg886973#msg886973 date=1244812086]
who u all kiddin? he's shit, he's on everyone's i wish he was gone list and he'll never make it here. quicker he leaves the better it is for everyone including him
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I suppose we could sign Iniesta for midfield cover?

If only all our players down the years showed such committment and attitude we would be laughing, especially in an era when loyalty means hardly anything in football.

Get behind Lucas, you twats.


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you say the same about babel?

lucas is shit and there is nothing wrong in wanting better. i support liverpool first.
 
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=34121.msg887227#msg887227 date=1244857570]


If only all our players down the years showed such committment and attitude we would be laughing, especially in an era when loyalty means hardly anything in football.




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I'd show committment and attitude if I was given the chance to play for Liverpool..........
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=34121.msg887257#msg887257 date=1244880572]
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=34121.msg887227#msg887227 date=1244857570]


If only all our players down the years showed such committment and attitude we would be laughing, especially in an era when loyalty means hardly anything in football.




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I'd show committment and attitude if I was given the chance to play for Liverpool..........
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Exactly - we're the best he's ever going to get and he knows that. No wonder he wants to stay - its downhill from here.
 
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