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Liverpool's new Stanley Park stadium on hold until recession is over

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It maybe a blessing in disguise really. Come the summer theres pressure on the yanks to reduce the debts further. I doubt they will be able to do it. So we will have to be sold.
 
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It maybe a blessing in disguise really. Come the summer theres pressure on the yanks to reduce the debts further. I doubt they will be able to do it. So we will have to be sold.
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Or we'll be selling some players
 
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It maybe a blessing in disguise really. Come the summer theres pressure on the yanks to reduce the debts further. I doubt they will be able to do it. So we will have to be sold.
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Or we'll be selling some players
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But that would be Rafa's fault though!
 
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It maybe a blessing in disguise really. Come the summer theres pressure on the yanks to reduce the debts further. I doubt they will be able to do it. So we will have to be sold.
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Or we'll be selling some players
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But that would be Rafa's fault though!
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Had he not been so greedy in constantly looking for transfer funds we could have afforded to build the stadium already, a bit like how Wenger managed to keep Arsenal in the top four while spending only what he recouped for years while they built their stadium.
 
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It maybe a blessing in disguise really. Come the summer theres pressure on the yanks to reduce the debts further. I doubt they will be able to do it. So we will have to be sold.
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Or we'll be selling some players
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But that would be Rafa's fault though!
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Had he not been so greedy in constantly looking for transfer funds we could have afforded to build the stadium already, a bit like how Wenger managed to keep Arsenal in the top four while spending only what he recouped for years while they built their stadium.
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But the pressure on Rafa to win the league is greater than on arsene though Ross, you must agree to that
 
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It maybe a blessing in disguise really. Come the summer theres pressure on the yanks to reduce the debts further. I doubt they will be able to do it. So we will have to be sold.
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Or we'll be selling some players
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But that would be Rafa's fault though!
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Had he not been so greedy in constantly looking for transfer funds we could have afforded to build the stadium already, a bit like how Wenger managed to keep Arsenal in the top four while spending only what he recouped for years while they built their stadium.
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Ok, that's it, Ross has gone mental.
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=35632.msg989217#msg989217 date=1258311686]
Where's the fucking tongue in cheek smiley ?
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*whispers* I don't think it was tounge in cheek. 😉
 
Ross even with the money wenger has spent i don't think it helped at all when it come to Arse building the stadium. The sold the naming rights, had all those appartments on the old highbury site and also debted themselves up to the eyeballs. I think if Arse miss champions leauge at all in the next few seasons they are in trouble apparently.
 
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Ross even with the money wenger has spent i don't think it helped at all when it come to Arse building the stadium. The sold the naming rights, had all those appartments on the old highbury site and also debted themselves up to the eyeballs. I think if Arse miss champions leauge at all in the next few seasons they are in trouble apparently.
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If he'd spent the same as Rafa had spent they wouldn't have a stadium at all
 
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Ross even with the money wenger has spent i don't think it helped at all when it come to Arse building the stadium. The sold the naming rights, had all those appartments on the old highbury site and also debted themselves up to the eyeballs. I think if Arse miss champions leauge at all in the next few seasons they are in trouble apparently.
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If he'd spent the same as Rafa had spent they wouldn't have a stadium at all
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I take it the "tongue-in-cheek" smilie wasn't to be found ?
 
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It maybe a blessing in disguise really. Come the summer theres pressure on the yanks to reduce the debts further. I doubt they will be able to do it. So we will have to be sold.
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Or we'll be selling some players
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But that would be Rafa's fault though!
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Had he not been so greedy in constantly looking for transfer funds we could have afforded to build the stadium already, a bit like how Wenger managed to keep Arsenal in the top four while spending only what he recouped for years while they built their stadium.
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Thats the worst post of the year.
 
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Ross even with the money wenger has spent i don't think it helped at all when it come to Arse building the stadium. The sold the naming rights, had all those appartments on the old highbury site and also debted themselves up to the eyeballs. I think if Arse miss champions leauge at all in the next few seasons they are in trouble apparently.
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If he'd spent the same as Rafa had spent they wouldn't have a stadium at all
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I really don't think what Benitez has spent has had any bearing on the fact we could not build the stadium. The bottom line is the owners credit rating is shit and no one wants to loan the club the money.
 
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Ross even with the money wenger has spent i don't think it helped at all when it come to Arse building the stadium. The sold the naming rights, had all those appartments on the old highbury site and also debted themselves up to the eyeballs. I think if Arse miss champions leauge at all in the next few seasons they are in trouble apparently.
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If he'd spent the same as Rafa had spent they wouldn't have a stadium at all
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I really don't think what Benitez has spent has had any bearing on the fact we could not build the stadium. The bottom line is the owners credit rating is shit and no one wants to loan the club the money.
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Don't be silly.

If Rafa hadn't of been so greedy, we could have spent the £75mil thats been used on transfers to get the new stadium started.

We might of been in league two, but at least we'd have managed to get the stadium about a 1/4 completed.
 
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Ross even with the money wenger has spent i don't think it helped at all when it come to Arse building the stadium. The sold the naming rights, had all those appartments on the old highbury site and also debted themselves up to the eyeballs. I think if Arse miss champions leauge at all in the next few seasons they are in trouble apparently.
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If he'd spent the same as Rafa had spent they wouldn't have a stadium at all
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I really don't think what Benitez has spent has had any bearing on the fact we could not build the stadium. The bottom line is the owners credit rating is shit and no one wants to loan the club the money.
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Firstly, before anyone claims I'm saying it's Rafa's fault that the stadium isn't built. I'm not. The board decide where money is spent and they supported their manager with as much money as has been possible to fund transfers in pursuit of the league title.

If we had 120m cash (a rough net spend figure from the last 5 years), we would need to borrow less for the stadium so it would have an impact.
 
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Ross even with the money wenger has spent i don't think it helped at all when it come to Arse building the stadium. The sold the naming rights, had all those appartments on the old highbury site and also debted themselves up to the eyeballs. I think if Arse miss champions leauge at all in the next few seasons they are in trouble apparently.
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If he'd spent the same as Rafa had spent they wouldn't have a stadium at all
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I really don't think what Benitez has spent has had any bearing on the fact we could not build the stadium. The bottom line is the owners credit rating is shit and no one wants to loan the club the money.
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Don't be silly.

If Rafa hadn't of been so greedy, we could have spent the £75mil thats been used on transfers to get the new stadium started.

We might of been in league two, but at least we'd have managed to get the stadium about a 1/4 completed.
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If we had a manager as good as Arsene we'd have stayed in the top four.

Unfortunately we don't.
 
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Ross even with the money wenger has spent i don't think it helped at all when it come to Arse building the stadium. The sold the naming rights, had all those appartments on the old highbury site and also debted themselves up to the eyeballs. I think if Arse miss champions leauge at all in the next few seasons they are in trouble apparently.
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If he'd spent the same as Rafa had spent they wouldn't have a stadium at all
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I really don't think what Benitez has spent has had any bearing on the fact we could not build the stadium. The bottom line is the owners credit rating is shit and no one wants to loan the club the money.
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If we had 120m cash (a rough net spend figure from the last 5 years).
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Much like your recent posts, thats utter crap.

Its about £45mil less than that.
 
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Ross even with the money wenger has spent i don't think it helped at all when it come to Arse building the stadium. The sold the naming rights, had all those appartments on the old highbury site and also debted themselves up to the eyeballs. I think if Arse miss champions leauge at all in the next few seasons they are in trouble apparently.
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If he'd spent the same as Rafa had spent they wouldn't have a stadium at all
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I really don't think what Benitez has spent has had any bearing on the fact we could not build the stadium. The bottom line is the owners credit rating is shit and no one wants to loan the club the money.
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If we had 120m cash (a rough net spend figure from the last 5 years).
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Much like your recent posts, thats utter crap.

Its about £45mil less than that.
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Wrong again Rafa.
 
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Lately he's been like the Irish version of Le Chacal.
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That's a banning offence.


Bye Rafa !
 
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If we had a manager as good as Arsene we'd have stayed in the top four.
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Managers that are as good as Arsene and his team at scouting talent: 0.

And that's a system that has matured over many years, rather than being neglected, worked around, and recent changed.

I've always been a real admirer of the way Wenger has been seeing his team through this period, however it's interesting to see how things have changed on this forum, now that we are temporarily struggling in the league, and they are succeeding, compared to when they were scraping 4th.

There's far more patience for their long term planning than there is for ours.

The fact is that we stupidly weren't allowed investment in the team this summer, not so we could prioritize long term plans, but because our owners don't seem to have consensus on their long term plans, and they were predicated on a gamble.

If this is a long U shaped recession, and we don't see investment, we're fucked.
 
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Rafa's net spend on players is around 16mil per year according to LFChistory.net.

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Net spend doesn't mean all that much when we keep buying crap, Raf..
 
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Rafa's net spend on players is around 16mil per year according to LFChistory.net.

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Net spend doesn't mean all that much when we keep buying crap, Raf..


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rafa's crap was 4 points off the league last season.
 
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Ross even with the money wenger has spent i don't think it helped at all when it come to Arse building the stadium. The sold the naming rights, had all those appartments on the old highbury site and also debted themselves up to the eyeballs. I think if Arse miss champions leauge at all in the next few seasons they are in trouble apparently.
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If he'd spent the same as Rafa had spent they wouldn't have a stadium at all
[/quote]

I really don't think what Benitez has spent has had any bearing on the fact we could not build the stadium. The bottom line is the owners credit rating is shit and no one wants to loan the club the money.
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Firstly, before anyone claims I'm saying it's Rafa's fault that the stadium isn't built. I'm not. The board decide where money is spent and they supported their manager with as much money as has been possible to fund transfers in pursuit of the league title.

If we had 120m cash (a rough net spend figure from the last 5 years), we would need to borrow less for the stadium so it would have an impact.
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So thats assuming absolutely no on field investment in five seasons... even by a rafa hating standards thats just fucking doolally Ross... really.

I shall leave you with your amusing delusions and head of for my lunch.
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=35632.msg989265#msg989265 date=1258313845]
Lately he's been like the Irish version of Le Chacal.
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Hehe
We've been agreeing on the subject for quite a while though...
Some blame the Yanks for everything, some think Rafa has got some responsabilities in that mess.
 
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