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Liverpool Vs Manchester Utd: Match thread

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[quote author=FreshRed link=topic=44417.msg1295879#msg1295879 date=1299433287]
[quote author=themn link=topic=44417.msg1295848#msg1295848 date=1299431151]
Mamma Mia is right.

It's become easy to use Maxi as a whipping boy, but he played well today.

He definitely did not "disappear".
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Maxi does a lot right, but finishing is not one of them. Despite the stick he gets, I think we are a much better team when he plays. His movement and one-touch passing is consistently excellent, creates space and opportunities offensively and relieves pressure on the defensive end. We missed him against West Ham.
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^^^^^
Well said Fresh Red. His one touch passing was really good and he and Meireles gave the man u defence some trouble with their runs from deep.
 
I have a feeling people might finally start to turn on Fergie after his recent outbursts.

The bubble may be bursting you fucking cunt.
 
Loved the Joe Cole 5 finger salute to the Scum fans.

How predictable is the media black out by Fergie? I bet all we'll read about tomorrow is how Carra should have been sent off!

Happy days... Suarez is some special player. One commentator said that he done in one game what Torres couldn't do in 25. That's the truth!
 
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=44417.msg1295946#msg1295946 date=1299435816]
Loved the Joe Cole 5 finger salute to the Scum fans.

How predictable is the media black out by Fergie? I bet all we'll read about tomorrow is how Carra should have been sent off!

Happy days... Suarez is some special player. One commentator said that he done in one game what Torres couldn't do in 25. That's the truth!
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What exactly did he do that Torres couldn't ? Just asking like cause it has me baffled.
 
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=44417.msg1295946#msg1295946 date=1299435816]
Loved the Joe Cole 5 finger salute to the Scum fans.

How predictable is the media black out by Fergie? I bet all we'll read about tomorrow is how Carra should have been sent off!

Happy days... Suarez is some special player. One commentator said that he done in one game what Torres couldn't do in 25. That's the truth!
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Then that commentator was talking out of his arse because Fernando (hate him or hate him) pretty much scored a goal a game for us at home over the past couple of seasons.

Torres was good. Suarez is different AND good.
 
Nope Spionkop, you're jumping the gun there. He was talking about this season and I gotta agree with him.

Torres was nothing but a liability. He sulked and was extremely poor this season.
 
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=44417.msg1295958#msg1295958 date=1299436216]
Nope Spionkop, you're jumping the gun there. He was talking about this season and I gotta agree with him.

Torres was nothing but a liability. He sulked and was extremely poor this season.
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And still scored 9 in 23.
 
Squiggles: by his standards that's poor.

Tell me that you didn't want him gone in the end. 9 goals or not? Good riddance
 
That's just revisionist nonsense. Few wanted him gone until he wanted to leave.

There's no need to rewrite history.
 
Opta Sports:
If the Premier League had started on New Year's Day, Liverpool would be 3rd, two pts behind Man Utd & one behind Arsenal.
 
Nobody trying to rewrite history. He was piss poor this season by his own standards and his attitude stank.
 
[quote author=refugee link=topic=44417.msg1296012#msg1296012 date=1299439213]
Opta Sports:
If the Premier League had started on New Year's Day, Liverpool would be 3rd, two pts behind Man Utd & one behind Arsenal.
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If only we'd appointed the King in the summer.

Ah well. Better late than never. 8)
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=44417.msg1296030#msg1296030 date=1299440999]
[quote author=refugee link=topic=44417.msg1296012#msg1296012 date=1299439213]
Opta Sports:
If the Premier League had started on New Year's Day, Liverpool would be 3rd, two pts behind Man Utd & one behind Arsenal.
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If only we'd appointed the King in the summer.

Ah well. Better late than never. 8)
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It makes me soooo angry when I think about who we chose instead.

Thankfully Kenny is doing everything he can do to help me repress those memories.
 
[quote author=refugee link=topic=44417.msg1296012#msg1296012 date=1299439213]
Opta Sports:
If the Premier League had started on New Year's Day, Liverpool would be 3rd, two pts behind Man Utd & one behind Arsenal.
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But it didn't...

If Man Yoo hadn't won 17 other league titles, they would only have one to their name, etc etc.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44417.msg1296010#msg1296010 date=1299439122]
That's just revisionist nonsense. Few wanted him gone until he wanted to leave.

There's no need to rewrite history.


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Very true Squiggs.

I was gutted when he left personally, mainly because he is one of the very best strikers about. I must admit though it's quite enjoyable to watch our games now and not shite myself every time he starts to hobble.
 
Liverpool's vibrant forward movement ran Manchester United ragged

David Pleat guardian.co.uk
Sunday 6 March 2011 21.04 GMT Article history

Regardless of the many debates the game generated, one cannot disguise the excellence of Liverpool's perfect birthday present for Kenny Dalglish. From back to front they were superior, more effective in their work with the ball and also showed great determination without it when they hunted United when they lost possession.

Their forward movement, revolving around the workaholic Dirk Kuyt, was most impressive. They ran enterprisingly, taking advantage of the space between the United centre-backs and their full backs. Raul Meireles and Maxi Rodríguez were important to this penetration, with Luis Suárez pulling the centre-backs around with his twisting brilliance, instigating the rhythm of Liverpool's attacks. At times it was compelling stuff, reducing United, a technically better equipped group, to clear second best. The less-heralded players were on top form – Sotirios Kyrgiakos dominated in the air, Lucas balanced Steven Gerrard and Meireles and Maxi ran with great freedom.


The indefatigable Kuyt was central to everything Even Andy Carroll, in a brief cameo, made his point. United, shorn of Rio Ferdinand and Nemanja Vidic, compensated with experience in the midfield selection of Paul Scholes and Ryan Giggs, and with Berbatov up front.

Suárez, playing off the Dutchman, was influential in Liverpool's vibrant speedy movements, where Steven Gerrard and Lucas protected the back four cautiously so that United received little good ball up front. Liverpool's defensive shape, though disturbed when Fabio Aurelio went off, was not handicapped, although Phil Dowd was far too lenient when Jamie Carragher assaulted Nani and this lit the touch paper – Rafael, too, should have seen red.


Maxi and Meireles, switching, swapping and running behind, gave United's back four problems and, with Kuyt and Suárez pulling the centre-backs from their base positions, spaces developed behind the adventurous Patrice Evra and from time to time Rafael.

Meireles made some cleverly timed runs behind his marker and into the grass behind the full-back. It was a tactic that Liverpool used very well. Had Vidic and Ferdinand been together, their experience might have put a doubt into these forward runs, occasionally looking to win an offside decision. But United's communication and understanding was not at its best level.

Chris Smalling and Wes Brown did not have an easy afternoon but it was the overall tightness of the back players which was questionable when Meireles, particularly, and Maxi dragged their midfield markers into deep defensive areas. On this particular day even Vidic and Ferdinand would have been hard-pressed to stem this Liverpool flurry, which augurs well for the future.

In the second half Wayne Rooney faced Carragher on United's wide left. Both players had been happier in the centre than on the touchline, although Rooney did nothing to enhance his reputation in the first period. With Liverpool deeper, but breaking smartly, United held sway for a while, but Kyrgiakos came into his own, heading away comfortably. Kuyt's work rate deserved his poacher's goal as Liverpool continually raced into areas behind Manchester United's back four into the space between the centre-backs and the touchline.

When Carroll arrived to show his headwork for the tiring Meireles, the points were in the bag. United were reduced to chasing the confidence that oozed from the home ranks and stemmed from their great work rate and running ball.
 
The combination of United's injury PLUS the geriatric age of Scholes and Giggs has helped us to win I think. Not discounting the fact that Berbetov is 30, VDS almost forty and Alex's 70, this must be one of the old average age for the PL. (Have I missed anyone nearing the end of their sell by date?) oh yes Rio 30+, Carrick 30+, Fletcher, Brown and O'Shea are no longer young chicks nor is Hargreaves (not worth a mention), Vidic must be above 30, .... Man Utd need to spend at least 200m next season to be up for it again.

edit: just found this as at Jan 2010:- (just add one more year and we get Man Utd's first team age!)


Van Der Sar: 39
G.Neville : 34
Patrice Evra 29
Owen Hargreaves 29 20TH JAN (FLOP, injury prone WRECK)
Rio Ferdinand: 31
Wes Brown 30
Michael owen : 30
Anderson : 21
Berbatov: 29
Rooney : 24
Giggs: 36
Park Ji-Sung : 28
Tosic: 22 and terrible.
Vidic : 28
Carrick : 28
Nani : 23
Scholes: 35
rafael 19
fabio 19
J O Shea: 29
Johnny evans: 22
valencia : 24
d fletcher: 24
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=44417.msg1296030#msg1296030 date=1299440999]
[quote author=refugee link=topic=44417.msg1296012#msg1296012 date=1299439213]
Opta Sports:
If the Premier League had started on New Year's Day, Liverpool would be 3rd, two pts behind Man Utd & one behind Arsenal.
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If only we'd appointed the King in the summer.

Ah well. Better late than never. 8)
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better for kenny to follow roy (a manager I absolutely HATED) than rafa, a manager I loved.
 
Glenjo played two positions yesterday very competently I think he probably deserves more credit than I initially gave him.

Could possibly be on his way back to his best.
 
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=44417.msg1296507#msg1296507 date=1299505626]
Glenjo played two positions yesterday very competently I think he probably deserves more credit than I initially gave him.

Could possibly be on his way back to his best.
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This.... we need to keep players like Glenjo
just like a number of players in our squad we have seen him up his game since the Kings arrival
 
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found a site that has loads of match day photos on. i enjoyed that one because of evras fantastic "durp"
 
didn't krump mention kuyt should get sucked off by a few people?


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