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Liverpool v Brighton & Hove Albion - Match Thread

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Gini, Milner and Thiago looked tired, we should have had Jones on at HT. Origi and Ox really have nothing to offer unless we are bossing a game, neither one should stay next season.

I actually think Divock does better when he starts ... He's a waste of a sub. Just give the minutes to some u23 striker.
 
Somebody else posted a win tonight and Sunday would put us a point behind city I wish someone would have told our players might have moved a little quicker probably not a win Sunday only helps United still hope we win
 
I don't know - we were so average last year post Corona and didn't start the season great.
Maybe this had to happen to have the team refocus.
I just want to smash man city - let them win the league, but let's smash them.
We'll have a proper set of CBs
Hendo and Fabs will be back in midfield and we'll be able to play them with Thiago who can be let off the leash with Fabs behind him.
Jota + 1 to supplement our current front three.

Some dead wood will have been cast off - Ox. Origi and Shaq. - and hopefully replaced with more productive squad players.

Even now when all are fit we have the best first XI in the PL, next season should see us stronger, and hopefully with a proper pre-season, rested players and crowds back.
 
Apart from key injuries the biggest difference from last season is the players look shattered every game. last season it almost didn't matter how we started a game as we'd steamroller the opposition in the second half with our attitude and energy levels but this season when we need the change of tempo or acceleration it just isn't there. They all look flat and one paced and shite teams are matching us for endevour, defending deep and taking points from us. Most of the time deservedly.
Plenty of reasons why we look goosed including covid, short pre season, punishing schedule the past three seasons, key injuries, players playing out of position and no fans but I still think we should be doing better.
I'm not sure what we can do to address it and if we don't at least qualify for the Champions league then the season will be disastrous.
 
We'll have a proper set of CBs
Hendo and Fabs will be back in midfield and we'll be able to play them with Thiago who can be let off the leash with Fabs behind him.
Jota + 1 to supplement our current front three.

Some dead wood will have been cast off - Ox. Origi and Shaq. - and hopefully replaced with more productive squad players.

Even now when all are fit we have the best first XI in the PL, next season should see us stronger, and hopefully with a proper pre-season, rested players and crowds back.

Something is off with the team mate though - we've just lacked our edge. Doesn't matter how good your team is if you come out this flat against shit teams a whole season.
I hope it's just post title blues and having so few breaks go our way - but Klopp's job this summer will be as huge challenge - Motivate an aging team and reigniting that 'mentality monsters' mantra that we've rarely seen in 2020 and now 2021
 
Apart from key injuries the biggest difference from last season is the players look shattered every game. last season it almost didn't matter how we started a game as we'd steamroller the opposition in the second half with our attitude and energy levels but this season when we need the change of tempo or acceleration it just isn't there. They all look flat and one paced and shite teams are matching us for endevour, defending deep and taking points from us. Most of the time deservedly.
Plenty of reasons why we look goosed including covid, short pre season, punishing schedule the past three seasons, key injuries, players playing out of position and no fans but I still think we should be doing better.
I'm not sure what we can do to address it and if we don't at least qualify for the Champions league then the season will be disastrous.

Gotta improve the steroid plan next year then.

As for your last sentence, we have to, absolutely have to, finish top 4 ... cannot afford a season without CL
 
Gotta improve the steroid plan next year then.

As for your last sentence, we have to, absolutely have to, finish top 4 ... cannot afford a season without CL
I agree a season without Champions league participation is unthinkable but we can't seem to get a winning run together and now the home form has collapsed it's really looking dodgy. Relegation battlers are making us look ordinary going forward which is a bad sign.
 
I agree a season without Champions league participation is unthinkable but we can't seem to get a winning run together and now the home form has collapsed it's really looking dodgy. Relegation battlers are making us look ordinary going forward which is a bad sign.

Cant argue with that... we actually need jota and keita back ... both can add something in the final 3rd.
 
Cant argue with that... we actually need jota and keita back ... both can add something in the final 3rd.
When we play against these 11 behind the ball teams and it isn't going to plan I really don't know why we persist with playing Wijnaldum in midfield when he can be so dangerous in the box. I'd rather have him attacking a cross instead of Origi hoping it'll bounce off him into the net. As others have said he could have put the new lad Davies on at half time and pushed Henderson into midfield but he went with Origi and Chamberlain who've both looked shit for over a year.
And how Jones was the last player to be subbed on I'll never know when the midfield had been so crap all night.
 
I am sorry but we look so damn slow in that final third, there was only one moment in that game where we pressured them in the final third, and that was too late. it's just the same predictable stuff over and over again. They did not put a foot wrong ,and were so well marshalled in defence - I sometimes really do wonder how the likes of United, and City have been beating these teams - I mean do they play the same against them like they do against us or what ? - I just don't get it.
 
3 games in 6 days. Is it any wonder why we might look shattered?

On the other hand. City have had 3 games in 8 days.

Truth is, we look bereft of ideas because we don't have any patterns of movement in the midfield or upfront, because we're changing the line up every week.
 
Was he? He's not that sort of player.

sorry - don't know what the fuss about him is ? - does anyone so far ? - he is turning out to be the person I had no memory of during that game we had with Bayern (away leg where we won). There is an argument that many will make regarding the movement ahead of him, but seriously - he had one good pass in that game from that free kick - other than that he is no different. If truth be told we need a really ball playing dribbler in that midfield who can get past a crowded defense and stand up to these big cunts. We really needed the fight of Mane today up front. Even if we win on Sunday - don't think it means much now - we have all but handed the title over to city tonight. I just hope the struggle for CL footy next season is not as bad as the struggle we have faced trying to retain the title.
 
sorry - don't know what the fuss about him is ? - does anyone so far ? - he is turning out to be the person I had no memory of during that game we had with Bayern (away leg where we won). There is an argument that many will make regarding the movement ahead of him, but seriously - he had one good pass in that game from that free kick - other than that he is no different. If truth be told we need a really ball playing dribbler in that midfield who can get past a crowded defense and stand up to these big cunts. We really needed the fight of Mane today up front. Even if we win on Sunday - don't think it means much now - we have all but handed the title over to city tonight. I just hope the struggle for CL footy next season is not as bad as the struggle we have faced trying to retain the title.

He's obviously a very technically gifted player. He's mostly gifted in ways that are irrelevant to our current ills, but so what. Eventually he'll be another problem we don't have.

The issue is, he's old.
 
Was he? He's not that sort of player.

No he wasnt, hes the guy that sets the tempo of the game with his perpetual motion passing machine. Hes a fantastic passer of the ball, arguably the best in world football, but hes not a lock picker against mass defences. Thats really Keita or Shaqs role, in so far as its anybodies specific role.

What you absolutely dont want against a massed well organised defence is Ox and Origi coming on to run into brick walls and turn over posession every 2 mins.
 
Sorry guys - I sat and watched the 2nd half.

This defeat is on me.

I’ll not watch the City game - I promise!!!

I didn’t watch Spurs & West Ham but did watch Newcastle, WBA, Burnley & Utd (League) games.
 
Sorry guys - I sat and watched the 2nd half.

This defeat is on me.

I’ll not watch the City game - I promise!!!

I didn’t watch Spurs & West Ham but did watch Newcastle, WBA, Burnley & Utd (League) games.
Virtual handshake received SM.
 
Well that was utter shite. At this rate we are losing our CL place which scuppers this 'summer spending' we used as an excuse to wait until 31st Jan to fix the CB problems.

It is very clear that our replacements can't play the system the First XI can - so why do we keep trying. The CM trio isn't as effective in owning the middle like Fabs/Hendo/Gini are when together. Shaq doesn't press or run in behind like Mane does. We had fuck all movement and were incredibly blunt when we had the ball just passing it around in front of their defence.

We should play a system that the players we have are mostly likely to win in. Not put our fringe players in a system made for others. Incredibly frustrating. The only slight positive is that we shouldn't see our piss poor attempts to beat a low block in the next 3 games - but we need to take a decent points haul to avoid falling away.
 
This is the bottom line ...
We've taken TWO (!!!!!!) points out of 15 from games against West Brom, Burnley, Newcastle, Brighton and Soton ...
Just can't have that kind of rut and expect to stick with a City team hitting stride.
It's unfortunate ...
 
No he wasnt, hes the guy that sets the tempo of the game with his perpetual motion passing machine. Hes a fantastic passer of the ball, arguably the best in world football, but hes not a lock picker against mass defences. Thats really Keita or Shaqs role, in so far as its anybodies specific role.

What you absolutely dont want against a massed well organised defence is Ox and Origi coming on to run into brick walls and turn over posession every 2 mins.
It really depends on your definition of the term. It's rare for one moment of magic to unlock an entire defense. Thiago often plays a low fast ball, whilst looking another way, which catches the opponents off guard. The problem is both Salah and Mane have struggled to control it in recent weeks. He plays the pass before the assist as it were. He's certainly creative and has excellent close control to beat a man.

But it's not fully clicking with this team yet.
 
The seasons dead. Playing for a champions league place, the past 6 weeks has killed our season.

I just hope to see the team evolve the way it plays against shit cunt sides that want to sit deep for 85 minutes between now and the end of the season, so we can start next season with a genuine hope of being in the running for the league
 
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