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Liverpool to bid 8 million for Boltons Lee Chung-Yong

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[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=39699.msg1083715#msg1083715 date=1270635089]
Why is it that Bolton Wigan and Everton can find these players in the fist place for a pittance?


regards
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I'll be very disappointed if rafa plays him on the left, he's not a left winger.
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=39699.msg1083718#msg1083718 date=1270635321]
No thanks.




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why do you say that?
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=39699.msg1083715#msg1083715 date=1270635089]
Why is it that Bolton Wigan and Everton can find these players in the fist place for a pittance?


regards
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Wigan have a very good recent track record in this area, but do Everton and Bolton?
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39699.msg1083723#msg1083723 date=1270635452]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=39699.msg1083718#msg1083718 date=1270635321]
No thanks.




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why do you say that?
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Take your pick mate.

1.Too much money
2.Not good enough
3.Other areas need looking at first
 
[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=39699.msg1083719#msg1083719 date=1270635326]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=39699.msg1083676#msg1083676 date=1270633397]
Ha, i thought he was a leftie, if he isn't we need to look elsewhere. I've liked n'zogbia this season...
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Oh God no.
[/quote] He's a talented player who's maturing, you'll see! He made a right twat out of insua this season.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=39699.msg1083730#msg1083730 date=1270635872]
[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=39699.msg1083719#msg1083719 date=1270635326]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=39699.msg1083676#msg1083676 date=1270633397]
Ha, i thought he was a leftie, if he isn't we need to look elsewhere. I've liked n'zogbia this season...
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Oh God no.
[/quote] He's a talented player who's maturing, you'll see! He made a right twat out of insua this season.
[/quote]

That doesn't prove anything.
 
[quote author=keniget link=topic=39699.msg1083727#msg1083727 date=1270635780]
So he's a right-winger?

That's pretty low down on our list of priorities this summer.
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yep he is. betcha rafa uses him on the left completely negating his ability to cross with his right foot at pace.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39699.msg1083688#msg1083688 date=1270633780]
A cut-price winger from a small club.
This has to be good news given the recent success we've had with similar purchases.
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What a stupid thing to say. Valencia was signed from Wigan, Adam Johnson from Middlesbrough. Would you be happier if we offered £18m for him?
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=39699.msg1083731#msg1083731 date=1270635946]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=39699.msg1083730#msg1083730 date=1270635872]
[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=39699.msg1083719#msg1083719 date=1270635326]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=39699.msg1083676#msg1083676 date=1270633397]
Ha, i thought he was a leftie, if he isn't we need to look elsewhere. I've liked n'zogbia this season...
[/quote]

Oh God no.
[/quote] He's a talented player who's maturing, you'll see! He made a right twat out of insua this season.
[/quote]

That doesn't prove anything.
[/quote]

Quite. Anyway, if he had any end product then Wigan would have got a couple more against us.
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=39699.msg1083731#msg1083731 date=1270635946]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=39699.msg1083730#msg1083730 date=1270635872]
[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=39699.msg1083719#msg1083719 date=1270635326]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=39699.msg1083676#msg1083676 date=1270633397]
Ha, i thought he was a leftie, if he isn't we need to look elsewhere. I've liked n'zogbia this season...
[/quote]

Oh God no.
[/quote] He's a talented player who's maturing, you'll see! He made a right twat out of insua this season.
[/quote]

That doesn't prove anything.t
[/quote] True enough. He is pretty good though.
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=39699.msg1083755#msg1083755 date=1270640878]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39699.msg1083688#msg1083688 date=1270633780]
A cut-price winger from a small club.
This has to be good news given the recent success we've had with similar purchases.
[/quote]

What a stupid thing to say. Valencia was signed from Wigan, Adam Johnson from Middlesbrough. Would you be happier if we offered £18m for him?
[/quote]

To be honest I had a chuckle at it Bunny. More a comment on Rafa's recent transfer expertise than an attempted insult towards Chung-Yong.
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=39699.msg1083755#msg1083755 date=1270640878]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39699.msg1083688#msg1083688 date=1270633780]
A cut-price winger from a small club.
This has to be good news given the recent success we've had with similar purchases.
[/quote]

What a stupid thing to say. Valencia was signed from Wigan, Adam Johnson from Middlesbrough. Would you be happier if we offered £18m for him?
[/quote]

Another point missed. Well done.

And PS Valencia isn't anyone's idea of "cut price" given he cost c£16m.

So point missed *and* shit example.

Hooray!
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39699.msg1083783#msg1083783 date=1270644731]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=39699.msg1083755#msg1083755 date=1270640878]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39699.msg1083688#msg1083688 date=1270633780]
A cut-price winger from a small club.
This has to be good news given the recent success we've had with similar purchases.
[/quote]

What a stupid thing to say. Valencia was signed from Wigan, Adam Johnson from Middlesbrough. Would you be happier if we offered £18m for him?
[/quote]

Another point missed. Well done.

And PS Valencia isn't anyone's idea of "cut price" given he cost c£16m.

So point missed *and* shit example.

Hooray!
[/quote]

Doh. That was precisely why I added the bit about 'if he cost £18m'.

And I didn't miss your point, I just thought it was stupid.

Given how shit most of our recent transfer dealings have been, you might as well just say, 'A football player signed by Liverpool? This has to be good news given the recent success we've had with similar purchases.'
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=39699.msg1083755#msg1083755 date=1270640878]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39699.msg1083688#msg1083688 date=1270633780]
A cut-price winger from a small club.
This has to be good news given the recent success we've had with similar purchases.
[/quote]

What a stupid thing to say. Valencia was signed from Wigan, Adam Johnson from Middlesbrough. Would you be happier if we offered £18m for him?
[/quote]

The point is Rafa isnt very good at this , me thinks.
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=39699.msg1083820#msg1083820 date=1270647401]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39699.msg1083783#msg1083783 date=1270644731]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=39699.msg1083755#msg1083755 date=1270640878]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39699.msg1083688#msg1083688 date=1270633780]
A cut-price winger from a small club.
This has to be good news given the recent success we've had with similar purchases.
[/quote]

What a stupid thing to say. Valencia was signed from Wigan, Adam Johnson from Middlesbrough. Would you be happier if we offered £18m for him?
[/quote]

Another point missed. Well done.

And PS Valencia isn't anyone's idea of "cut price" given he cost c£16m.

So point missed *and* shit example.

Hooray!
[/quote]

Doh. That was precisely why I added the bit about 'if he cost £18m'.

And I didn't miss your point, I just thought it was stupid.

Given how shit most of our recent transfer dealings have been, you might as well just say, 'A football player signed by Liverpool? This has to be good news given the recent success we've had with similar purchases.'

[/quote]

Your last para is right too, though.
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=39699.msg1083820#msg1083820 date=1270647401]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39699.msg1083783#msg1083783 date=1270644731]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=39699.msg1083755#msg1083755 date=1270640878]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39699.msg1083688#msg1083688 date=1270633780]
A cut-price winger from a small club.
This has to be good news given the recent success we've had with similar purchases.
[/quote]

What a stupid thing to say. Valencia was signed from Wigan, Adam Johnson from Middlesbrough. Would you be happier if we offered £18m for him?
[/quote]

Another point missed. Well done.

And PS Valencia isn't anyone's idea of "cut price" given he cost c£16m.

So point missed *and* shit example.

Hooray!
[/quote]

Doh. That was precisely why I added the bit about 'if he cost £18m'.

And I didn't miss your point, I just thought it was stupid.

Given how shit most of our recent transfer dealings have been, you might as well just say, 'A football player signed by Liverpool? This has to be good news given the recent success we've had with similar purchases.'

[/quote]

So how is Valencia in any way relevant in the context of "cut-price" wingers?

Or are you taking Valencia and Johnson and trying to create some kind of value comparison? I'm sorry if I didn't understand the point of adding the £18m bit, probably because as I have pointed out, I don't understand why you brought those two players up, and also because one cost £16m and the other £9m (largely because he was out of contract in the summer)
 
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[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=39699.msg1083731#msg1083731 date=1270635946]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=39699.msg1083730#msg1083730 date=1270635872]
[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=39699.msg1083719#msg1083719 date=1270635326]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=39699.msg1083676#msg1083676 date=1270633397]
Ha, i thought he was a leftie, if he isn't we need to look elsewhere. I've liked n'zogbia this season...
[/quote]

Oh God no.
[/quote] He's a talented player who's maturing, you'll see! He made a right twat out of insua this season.
[/quote]

That doesn't prove anything.t
[/quote] True enough. He is pretty good though.
[/quote]

I'll take your word on it mate (i've not seen enough of him to comment).
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=39699.msg1083724#msg1083724 date=1270635517]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=39699.msg1083715#msg1083715 date=1270635089]
Why is it that Bolton Wigan and Everton can find these players in the fist place for a pittance?


regards
[/quote]

Wigan have a very good recent track record in this area, but do Everton and Bolton?
[/quote]

Errrr...........Moyes seems to keep picking up decent players for little money. Bolton have a winger Lee Chung someone apparently

regards
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39699.msg1083827#msg1083827 date=1270647774]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=39699.msg1083820#msg1083820 date=1270647401]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39699.msg1083783#msg1083783 date=1270644731]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=39699.msg1083755#msg1083755 date=1270640878]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39699.msg1083688#msg1083688 date=1270633780]
A cut-price winger from a small club.
This has to be good news given the recent success we've had with similar purchases.
[/quote]

What a stupid thing to say. Valencia was signed from Wigan, Adam Johnson from Middlesbrough. Would you be happier if we offered £18m for him?
[/quote]

Another point missed. Well done.

And PS Valencia isn't anyone's idea of "cut price" given he cost c£16m.

So point missed *and* shit example.

Hooray!
[/quote]

Doh. That was precisely why I added the bit about 'if he cost £18m'.

And I didn't miss your point, I just thought it was stupid.

Given how shit most of our recent transfer dealings have been, you might as well just say, 'A football player signed by Liverpool? This has to be good news given the recent success we've had with similar purchases.'

[/quote]

So how is Valencia in any way relevant in the context of "cut-price" wingers?

Or are you taking Valencia and Johnson and trying to create some kind of value comparison? I'm sorry if I didn't understand the point of adding the £18m bit, probably because as I have pointed out, I don't understand why you brought those two players up, and also because one cost £16m and the other £9m (largely because he was out of contract in the summer)


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Valencia was relevant for the 'small club' bit, but you know that already and are doing your usual trick of pedantic, sarcastic bickering to cover up the fact that you don't know whether the player in question is any good or not.
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=39699.msg1083870#msg1083870 date=1270651596]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39699.msg1083827#msg1083827 date=1270647774]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=39699.msg1083820#msg1083820 date=1270647401]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39699.msg1083783#msg1083783 date=1270644731]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=39699.msg1083755#msg1083755 date=1270640878]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39699.msg1083688#msg1083688 date=1270633780]
A cut-price winger from a small club.
This has to be good news given the recent success we've had with similar purchases.
[/quote]

What a stupid thing to say. Valencia was signed from Wigan, Adam Johnson from Middlesbrough. Would you be happier if we offered £18m for him?
[/quote]

Another point missed. Well done.

And PS Valencia isn't anyone's idea of "cut price" given he cost c£16m.

So point missed *and* shit example.

Hooray!
[/quote]

Doh. That was precisely why I added the bit about 'if he cost £18m'.

And I didn't miss your point, I just thought it was stupid.

Given how shit most of our recent transfer dealings have been, you might as well just say, 'A football player signed by Liverpool? This has to be good news given the recent success we've had with similar purchases.'

[/quote]

So how is Valencia in any way relevant in the context of "cut-price" wingers?

Or are you taking Valencia and Johnson and trying to create some kind of value comparison? I'm sorry if I didn't understand the point of adding the £18m bit, probably because as I have pointed out, I don't understand why you brought those two players up, and also because one cost £16m and the other £9m (largely because he was out of contract in the summer)


[/quote]

Valencia was relevant for the 'small club' bit, but you know that already and are doing your usual trick of pedantic, sarcastic bickering to cover up the fact that you don't know whether the player in question is any good or not.

[/quote]

If you didn't type such a load of confusing, pointless bollocks, pedantry wouldn't be required.
 
Whatever.

He was the best player on the pitch when we played Bolton. That's not a reason to buy him, in itself, but nor is the fact that he plays for Bolton and is allegedly available for £8m a reason not to buy him.
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=39699.msg1083880#msg1083880 date=1270652007]
Whatever.

He was the best player on the pitch when we played Bolton. That's not a reason to buy him, in itself, but nor is the fact that he plays for Bolton and is allegedly available for £8m a reason not to buy him.
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Hopefully he can be as succesful as every other cut-price winger from a smaller club that Benitez has bought like Zenden, Riera, Leto, Gonzalez and Tennants.

Hang on. I'm getting deja vu.

I hope you don't post something oblique about Valencia and Wigan and £18m
 
Rafa's record with wingers is 100% shit, irrespective of their cost and provenance. So it would take a leap of faith to believe that the next one will buck the trend. Having said that, the best one he's managed was Yossi, who was £5m from West Ham. I know you don't like him, but he's inarguably been better than Babel, who cost twice as much and came from the more glamorous (though still 'small') Ajax Amsterdam.

Given that we are unlikely to have much money to spend this summer, I'm not quite sure what the alternative is to a 'cut-price' winger. We're hardly gonna spend £80m on prising Ribery from Bayern, are we? All I'm suggesting is that just because Leto, Gonzalez and Riera were rubbish to mediocre, does not in itself mean that Lee Chung-Yong would be.

Hope that's not too oblique for you, Brendan.
 
there are eight million fucking reasons not to buy him. who the fuck does benitez think he is that he can ask for that money. he should go buy a lottery ticket or buy some fucking food and eat it that'll make him just as happy
 
chung lee is one of the few players we have been linked with to play in a wide area that I've seen in advance and actually liked. he has the skill, pace and trickery to actually PLAY out wide rather than a forward pushed out wide to do a job or a wide player too slow to leave players in their wake using pace and skill.

nunez - slow
speedy gonzales - ironic name
reira - slow
kuyt - slow
yossi - slow
pennent - slow
babel - quick, but poor technique

chung lee isn't going to get lots of goals but he definately has the pace and trickey to get to the by line and drag the ball back into a crowded area and we haven't had that for years, did we even have that under gh?
 
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