Liverpool Sign Clyne (Confirmed)

[Hansern]

I don't think it is. You're generally very positive and upbeat about signings we make.

You can choose to take that as a positive or a negative thing.

Seeing as I'm generally a positive person it will be the first option...
I'm a bit of a mismatch to some on here who are negative to just about anything that happens. Be it a movie they saw or a new player we're signing. Everything is shite.
Cultural differences maybe. God knows..

For the record I wanted us to sign Clyne, Milner, Firmino. If we end up with some of the other players we've been linked with that I dont want, your theory wont be worth much..

 

[Glen C]

The way I'm thinking about these signings is will they continue to be good squad members once Rodgers has gone?

I think they generally will be. Ings already looks a bit of a spare part if you add in another striker, but otherwise it's all good.

Our defenders will look better once rodgers is gone that's for sure.

 

[leftpeg]

Milner is not a CM he'll end up out wide wait and see.

I'm hoping Flanno can get fit.

Lallana faces a massive challenge to get into our team with Coutinho, Milner, Ibe and Firmino

Starting Milner wide would fly in the face of the reason for and basis on which we've signed him. I'm not saying this is how it will be but there's more chance of Henderson being pushed out to RM than there is Milner.

I think we all hope Flanagan gets fit but the fact is he isn't so that remains an area that needs strengthening.

Lallana...I agree he's got a fight on his hands but he didn't even make it onto your bench and I find that puzzling.

 

[Zlate]

I would play this

-----------------------------Ming---------------------------
Clyne--------Skrtel--------------Sahko--------Moreno
---------Milner-------Henderson--------Can------
----------- -----Coutinho-----Firmino--------------------
---------------------------Studge-----------------------------

 

[leftpeg]

I would play this

-----------------------------Ming---------------------------
Clyne--------Skrtel--------------Sahko--------Moreno
---------Milner-------Henderson--------Can------
----------- -----Coutinho-----Firmino--------------------
---------------------------Studge-----------------------------

Against who? Under what circumstances?

You're getting perilously close to 'best 11' territory here!

 

[peterhague]

Starting Milner wide would fly in the face of the reason for and basis on which we've signed him. I'm not saying this is how it will be but there's more chance of Henderson being pushed out to RM than there is Milner.

I think we all hope Flanagan gets fit but the fact is he isn't so that remains an area that needs strengthening.

Lallana...I agree he's got a fight on his hands but he didn't even make it onto your bench and I find that puzzling.

I've never been a fan of Lallana so I'm biased, but it's really hard to see where his chances are coming from this season. I wish we'd just bite the bullet and sell him. We'd still get a good fee for him - something like £15m IMO.

Markovic or even someone like Teixeira is well capable of filling the meagre amount of minutes he'd naturally get in this squad.

 

[doctor_mac]

Considering Roys IQ is probably in line with the average person back then, its no surprise how similar his line of thinking is to that of the witchcraft trials of the middle ages.

The so-called 'witchcraft trials' were not in the Middle Ages.

 

[leftpeg]

I've never been a fan of Lallana so I'm biased, but it's really hard to see where his chances are coming from this season. I wish we'd just bite the bullet and sell him. We'd still get a good fee for him - something like £15m IMO.

I am a fan but it is difficult to see where he fits. For the sake of what we'd get for him I would still rather keep him. I'm really excited by the Firmino signing but South American players are usually a risk in this league. What if he just doesn't take to it? What if Sturridge is crocked again or Coutinho doesn't kick on from last season? Lallana's what, 27? Stick with him for another season at least.

 

[doctor_mac]

I am a fan but it is difficult to see where he fits. For the sake of what we'd get for him I would still rather keep him. I'm really excited by the Firmino signing but South American players are usually a risk in this league. What if he just doesn't take to it? What if Sturridge is crocked again or Coutinho doesn't kick on from last season? Lallana's what, 27? Stick with him for another season at least.

I like Lallana but he's unbelievably lightweight. He wouldn't win many 50/50s playing against under 10s. I'd like a bit more bravery from him.

 

[peterhague]

I am a fan but it is difficult to see where he fits. For the sake of what we'd get for him I would still rather keep him. I'm really excited by the Firmino signing but South American players are usually a risk in this league. What if he just doesn't take to it? What if Sturridge is crocked again or Coutinho doesn't kick on from last season? Lallana's what, 27? Stick with him for another season at least.

For where he plausibly is in the pecking order (Dreamy is right about him struggling to get on the bench IMO), compared to his value... I don't see the point. He's worth too much to just have sitting about doing nothing.

 

[ILD]

I like Lallana but he's unbelievably lightweight. He wouldn't win many 50/50s playing against under 10s. I'd like a bit more bravery from him.

Bit harsh doc. Lallana may not be blessed with powerful upper body strength but he doesn't shirk a 50/50. His bravery is not an issue for me.

 

[Ryan]

@Jay_78_: Clyne to #LFC done.

 

[doctor_mac]

Bit harsh doc. Lallana may not be blessed with powerful upper body strength but he doesn't shirk a 50/50. His bravery is not an issue for me.

He doesn't shirk it, he just never wins it. A 50/50 is 0/100 for Lallana.

 

[leftpeg]

For where he plausibly is in the pecking order (Dreamy is right about him struggling to get on the bench IMO), compared to his value... I don't see the point. He's worth too much to just have sitting about doing nothing.

But for the first time in a long time we actually have a pecking order so why would we want to start chipping away at it now? Our second and even third choices have to be better than they've been.

 

[ILD]

If he's any good why aren't City in for him. Hmmmm

Zabaletta is 30 and has a few seasons left in him. Sagna is a high paid back up option. Perhaps they aren't prioritizing a RB this window.

Clyne is very good.

 

[Y1]

Echo suggesting GBP12.5 million...

 

[DHSC]

sportingintelligence ‏@sportingintel 31s31 seconds ago
Soon to be ex-Saints XI (4-1-3-2) -- Boruc; Clyne, Chambers, Lovren, Shaw; Schneiderlin; Oxlade-Chamberlain, Lallana, Bale; Lambert, Walcott

 

[ILD]

I don't think it is. You're generally very positive and upbeat about signings we make.

You can choose to take that as a positive or a negative thing.

It's a positive thing.

 

[LeTallecWiz]

@Jay_78_: Clyne to #LFC done.

87% ?

 

[peterhague]

But for the first time in a long time we actually have a pecking order so why would we want to start chipping away at it now? Our second and even third choices have to be better than they've been.

It just seems like a waste to me. I can't believe we couldn't use that £15m or so better. Sign a top class LB, or a keeper. Or put it towards a world class striker. Use it.

It'll just wither and die if we leave it invested in a 27 year old Lallana. IMO - I know it won't happen under this manager.

 

[ILD]

He doesn't shirk it, he just never wins it. A 50/50 is 0/100 for Lallana.

You did initially question his bravery. 😉

Hopefully we'll play liquid football next season and won't need Lallana engaging in many 50/50's.

 

[Mystic]

The so-called 'witchcraft trials' were not in the Middle Ages.

Didn't Henry the VIII start the whole witchcraft thing, and wasn't that in the 1500's, which I thought still classed as the middle ages? (albeit pretty much then end of them)

 

[Mystic]

@Jay_78_: Clyne to #LFC done.

He's probably right in this case, but that Jay characters a right bullshitting cunt.

 

[doctor_mac]

Didn't Henry the VIII start the whole witchcraft thing, and wasn't that in the 1500's, which I thought still classed as the middle ages? (albeit pretty much then end of them)

No it was a James I (VI of Scotland) thing.

 

[Zlate]

Against who? Under what circumstances?

You're getting perilously close to 'best 11' territory here!

I would use this as our strongest line up, obviously depending on who we play, we alter it to suit what we want to do in the game

 

[doctor_mac]

You did initially question his bravery. 😉

.

If you go into a 50/50 wincing like a wet lettuce you're not going to win the ball. He's like my son catching a ball. He closes his eyes and puts his hands stretched out above his head to deflect it. Gutless little shit.

😉

 

[FoxForceFive]

If you go into a 50/50 wincing like a wet lettuce you're not going to win the ball. He's like my son catching a ball. He closes his eyes and puts his hands stretched out above his head to deflect it. Gutless little shit.

😉

Ha. Good analogy. Luke did that too. I now throw it into his face every time (not overly hard, I'm a cunt, but not a complete cunt).

He catches it almost every time now & keeps his eyes open every time. Pain aversion therapy, works (almost) every time.

 

[Mystic]

No it was a James I (VI of Scotland) thing.

But Henry the VII passed the witchcraft act? I suppose the trials didn't start in their full ferocity until James I, but still.

 

[peterhague]

This is like that bit in The Office where Brent has that fact-off with the student about Dostoevsky.

 

[doctor_mac]

But Henry the VII passed the witchcraft act? I suppose the trials didn't start in their full ferocity until James I, but still.

a) Henry VIII was not a medieval king if you want to think in terms of periodisation: with the Reformation and rise of Humanist thought this is generally considered the early modern period.

b) Of course there had always been punishments for those suspected of witchcraft (long predating Henry VIII) but proper witch hunting (with a witch finder general and such) and the prosecution of witches in a wide systematic way was a Jacobean phenomenon.