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Liverpool chief executive Ian Ayre reveals Anfield Road redevelopment cost

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Erm, the sponsorship money is also money foregone. I'd say they are trying to max out on sponsorship deals regardless of their expansion plans.

I'm not sure this business lark is quite as cut and dried as you would appear to think.


Perhaps not, but what is cut and dry is that we're in the top 10 richest football clubs in the world before this year's extra increase on tv and sponsorships. No matter how the owners try and say otherwise, we are not hurting for £70M to redevelop a stand, especially when that cost is spread over multiple years and offset by other incomes/savings.
 
What business is going to build something for no return on Investment?

On another thread, there is praise for fsg because we are no longer going to be offering silly money for kids wages.
 
What business is going to build something for no return on Investment?

On another thread, there is praise for fsg because we are no longer going to be offering silly money for kids wages.

It's so fucking sad that until now, I thought the story was that it was a cap of £40,000 a week, and it didn't seem that weird.
 
Perhaps not, but what is cut and dry is that we're in the top 10 richest football clubs in the world before this year's extra increase on tv and sponsorships. No matter how the owners try and say otherwise, we are not hurting for £70M to redevelop a stand, especially when that cost is spread over multiple years and offset by other incomes/savings.

If it made financial sense (actual financial sense, not just layman's accounting), they'd do it.
 
Then say so.

Come out & say that building the stand would leave the manager short of funds to spend on the team for five years or more.

The fans would get that. As it is they're effectively blaming the fans, which is a fucking lie.


They have made one comment off the cuff saying at current ticket price levels extending the stadium makes no sense...

They haven't blamed anyone for anything..

This feels a bit like talking to my wife...."but you implied that...you totally did"... Sometimes we need to turn a blind eye...I see nothing wrong with what they have done.
 
It just shows up the lies behind their 'We're only interested in the club, & we only wants best for the club long term'.

If that was the case then worrying about returns over five years, or even a decade, makes no sense. If it's better for the club long term, which it obviously is, then the answer should obviously be build the fucking thing.

As they aren't doing so, it's fair to assume that selling the club is on the agenda during that time period.

Playing devils advocate here, but maybe they feel success in the short term is more important. If building the stand has the short term knock on effect of not competing when we're already playing catch up, then increasing the revenue with a view to reaping the rewards in several years time seems to be like resigning ourselves to not competing in the short term, or at the very least hampering ourselves more than we already are restricted.

We've increased capacity, we're building well on the pitch, so perhaps the stand can wait until we secure a standing as a team again.
 
Maybe I'm missing something but I'm not sure why everyone is so up in arms putting aside the blaming the fans thing.

If it's going to take 15 years to pay off, what's the point?
 
Playing devils advocate here, but maybe they feel success in the short term is more important. If building the stand has the short term knock on effect of not competing when we're already playing catch up, then increasing the revenue with a view to reaping the rewards in several years time seems to be like resigning ourselves to not competing in the short term, or at the very least hampering ourselves more than we already are restricted.

We've increased capacity, we're building well on the pitch, so perhaps the stand can wait until we secure a standing as a team again.
Fine. As I said earlier, if they just said that I'm sure most fans would agree, or at least understand.

That's not what they're saying though, they're using the fans justified opposition to a price rise as a reason. I don't doubt there's valid justification, but the fans not wanting to stump up more cash is not part of it, & the insistence that it is pisses me off.

Personally I think they're working behind the scenes on outside investment or stand sponsorship to make it viable, saying this now means should they pull it off they can introduce price rises & look like they have the moral high ground.
 
Fine. As I said earlier, if they just said that I'm sure most fans would agree, or at least understand.

That's not what they're saying though, they're using the fans justified opposition to a price rise as a reason. I don't doubt there's valid justification, but the fans not wanting to stump up more cash is not part of it, & the insistence that it is pisses me off.

Personally I think they're working behind the scenes on outside investment or stand sponsorship to make it viable, saying this now means should they pull it off they can introduce price rises & look like they have the moral high ground.

Yeah, I don't disagree with that. Gate receipts are a small percentage of the revenue, so it's all political bollocks. Which is typical of the lack of understanding that eminates from the board. I think they've done alot of good stuff, so quite why they have to shoot themselves in the foot with this rubbish is beyond me. Just be fucking honest. It'll cost too much and might hit us in the short term. Passing the book is cowardly, if they don't know by now that knowledgable Liverpool fans appreciate the truth and are experts at exposing a bullshitter, then they still haven't done their homework on the club.

Like I say, it's not really anything to be ashamed of to admit it's a bit beyond us and the end doesn't really justify the means, it's not a lack of ambition it's being a fucking realist.
 
Yeah, that two million will make all the difference.

It's bollocks. Ticket prices are such a relatively small amount of a clubs income that it can't be used as a valid reason to not do something of this scale & cost.
Fucking Oath! That in itself is the crux of the issue. Fund some bellend like Moreno 1-2mill a year or build an Anfield future. No fucking brainer. Build the fucking thing! It will be epic and replay dividends massively. I suspect there has to a kind of 'hospitality' element involved in the eventual development.
 
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