No, but they get a sod of a lot more than I ever saw in my annual pay packet. Lee Mason's on £65,000 a year and Clattenburg will have been on nearly twice that.
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No they shouldn't. Footballers will always be in demand and anyone could hypothetically become a referee. If they're lucky when they retire they can get stupid money from BT Sports for describing instant replays.
After tax that's not a whole lot considering the impact on their lives being a referee makes. I absolutely think they should be on a whole lot more for taking the shit from jumped up rich kids and wholesale abuse that spills over into family life. Not many 'celebrities' will be on less.
Aidan says 'no they shouldn't' well there's your reason why there aren't better trained and simply better referees, who would take that degree of abuse for relatively peanuts (especially when they start out). Not many. Change the salaries and the chance of corruption drops dramatically and the pile to pick from increases substantially.
It's not money keeping top referees out. These are what we've got. If you start making superstars out of referees it becomes about them. Referees do it at all levels for different amounts of compensation. Paying them more isn't going to make them better. Make the rules regarding abuse to officials stricter. If referees were underpaid there would be complaints and strikes. I don't know what world 65k is not a lot.
In the football world 65k is a bag of crisps. Make the clubs pay their way for the referees. And of course more money is going to make them better, better trained and a whole lot more people would want to referee.
65k vs for example 250k ? You'd have queues of young lads, not good enough to play themselves, knocking on the door and we'd end up with much better, fitter, well-trained referees. Top footballers get that a week, average PL footballers get that a month, I don't see why referees couldn't get that a year. Look at the complaints week in week out and don't tell me there's not room for great improvement and that better facilities, and a much much deeper pool to choose from wouldn't make a difference.
As for making them superstars, you mean more than today ? With much deeper pools and stricter standards to adhere to then refs would need to turn in quality performances week in week out to stay at the level they've attained and those lower down in the pecking order would be chomping at the bit to surpass them. Higher standards all round.
I see some respect for referees in Rugby Union but little in Football.
It's not money that's the problem.
Sanction and technology are key in the professional game. As much as possible key decisions should be ruled over on replay. I would allow clubs two challenges per game for disputes e.g American Football.
In the amateur game I see only disaster - who wants to try controlling 22 feral players?
It's not money that's the problem.
Sanction and technology are key in the professional game. As much as possible key decisions should be ruled over on replay. I would allow clubs two challenges per game for disputes e.g American Football.
In the amateur game I see only disaster - who wants to try controlling 22 feral players?
I've never understood the appeal of being a ref, it's a shit job.
Everyone grows up wanting to play football, not be the jobsworth with the rule book who never gets to kick a ball.
Spend your entire career within spitting distance of bellends living the dream and everyone pretty much hating you and thinking you're a cunt.
I guess it suits a certain type of character and perhaps that's why we have the Clattenburgs of this world.
As for 60k, it's chump change for a role in the public eye as theirs is. And given the money in the game, it's a ridiculous salary.
Everyone grows up wanting to play football, not be the jobsworth with the rule book who never gets to kick a ball.
Spend your entire career within spitting distance of bellends living the dream and everyone pretty much hating you and thinking you're a cunt.
I guess it suits a certain type of character and perhaps that's why we have the Clattenburgs of this world.
As for 60k, it's chump change for a role in the public eye as theirs is. And given the money in the game, it's a ridiculous salary.
When I was a student at Liverpool University, some of my friends played for the Commerce and Economics faculty football team. They persuaded me to referee their matches. What I found surprising was that these close friends, when they got on the football pitch, would shout "fuck off ref!" or "you fucking gobshite, ref!"
"But I'm Pete, your mate," I would remind them.
"But this is different," they would reply.
"But I'm Pete, your mate," I would remind them.
"But this is different," they would reply.
If it is indeed the case that he doesn't give a fuck, i can't see Klopp taking him on. It's all about the team and attitude. It only takes one disruptive influence for it to spread to others...
Those two single words literally sum it up.
You don't win the league accidentally or luckily, let's nip that shit in the bud. Clearly, Kante was a big influence but they have other good players, Mahrez is a beauty.
I would always agree. Except with Leicester. It was a cosmic fluke.
Wait, you're not a fucking gobshite?
Of course he isn't[emoji12]
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I wish I had a brother who wasn't a fucking gobshite. Even just one who was nearly not a fucking gobshite would be great.
I can confirm, Portly is definitely not a gobshite. Neither is his brother for that matter.
Seconded.
Ahhh thanks chaps although we can be a bit cuntish on occasions when required [emoji48]
I can also confirm fully that both of these fine chaps are not 'gobshites' - Old maybe..... But as sound as a pound. 😉
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