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Poll kenny, jose or boas
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Jose is a no brainer ffs.
If not him then Kenny deserves a year minimum to show what he can do.
If not him then Kenny deserves a year minimum to show what he can do.
I want the Marseille manager.
Villas Boas to Liverpool?
La Gazzetta Dello Sport reports that the coach of Porto, Andre Villas Boas, met Franco Baldini (Roma) and told him he had a pre-agreement with Liverpool. The Portuguese 33-year-old has made ??no secret either that Mourinho told him it was too early for him to go to Italy.
where that from, reuque?
I love kenny but I do think boas coming in would be pretty darn exciting
I love kenny but I do think boas coming in would be pretty darn exciting
It's all ver Twitter that Boas has been quoted talking about a pre-agreement with LFC. Interesting.
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It's all ver Twitter that Boas has been quoted talking about a pre-agreement with LFC. Interesting.
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Gabriele Marcotti - On twitter breaks it down:
Plenty asking about Gazzetta dello Sport line about Villas Boas + pre-contract with Liverpool. Will do my best to sort through it. Gazzetta reported Villas Boas/LFC in context of story about Roma's future. Said Baldini went to see Villas Boas and talked abt Roma job. According to Gazzetta, Villas Boas interested initially, then said had pre-contract agreement with LFC. Couple of things to bear in mind 1. Baldini still works for the English FA, not Roma. And new owners have not yet taken over club. So if I was Villas Boas, I'd keep cards close to chest, wouldn't go so far as to tell Baldini I've committed to LFC. 2. According to story, VB told Baldini that Mourinho had told VB that "he wasn't ready for Italy". Could be VB's way of politely turning down Roma. Could be untrue. Doesn't sound like something VB wd use as an excuse. He's keen to show he's his own man, wouldn't hide behind JM's opinion (based on what I've been told by those who know VB). 3. Some of the other stuff in the story- which is mostly speculative -is patently untrue from what I've been told. Doesn't mean VB line is wrong, of course, but does suggest source may have told journo stuff to serve his purposes. 4. Story also damaging to Baldini. After all, basically says he's working for Roma or Tom Di Benedetto when, officially, he's not (or isnt' supposed to). This suggests to me source of story might be somebody trying to depict Baldini in a bad light. And if meeting was between Baldini + VB, how wd source know what was said? That said, IMO, VB wd be progressive, smart choice for LFC when Dalglish goes. Sorry previous tweets have been speculative, just trying to piece together what I know. Third-party quotes always tricky. Also, VB on record saying he'll stay w/Porto another yr. Not sure it's in his interest 2 make leap now. Cd be LFC sounded him out 4 future
It's all ver Twitter that Boas has been quoted talking about a pre-agreement with LFC. Interesting.
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Gabriele Marcotti - On twitter breaks it down:
Plenty asking about Gazzetta dello Sport line about Villas Boas + pre-contract with Liverpool. Will do my best to sort through it. Gazzetta reported Villas Boas/LFC in context of story about Roma's future. Said Baldini went to see Villas Boas and talked abt Roma job. According to Gazzetta, Villas Boas interested initially, then said had pre-contract agreement with LFC. Couple of things to bear in mind 1. Baldini still works for the English FA, not Roma. And new owners have not yet taken over club. So if I was Villas Boas, I'd keep cards close to chest, wouldn't go so far as to tell Baldini I've committed to LFC. 2. According to story, VB told Baldini that Mourinho had told VB that "he wasn't ready for Italy". Could be VB's way of politely turning down Roma. Could be untrue. Doesn't sound like something VB wd use as an excuse. He's keen to show he's his own man, wouldn't hide behind JM's opinion (based on what I've been told by those who know VB). 3. Some of the other stuff in the story- which is mostly speculative -is patently untrue from what I've been told. Doesn't mean VB line is wrong, of course, but does suggest source may have told journo stuff to serve his purposes. 4. Story also damaging to Baldini. After all, basically says he's working for Roma or Tom Di Benedetto when, officially, he's not (or isnt' supposed to). This suggests to me source of story might be somebody trying to depict Baldini in a bad light. And if meeting was between Baldini + VB, how wd source know what was said? That said, IMO, VB wd be progressive, smart choice for LFC when Dalglish goes. Sorry previous tweets have been speculative, just trying to piece together what I know. Third-party quotes always tricky. Also, VB on record saying he'll stay w/Porto another yr. Not sure it's in his interest 2 make leap now. Cd be LFC sounded him out 4 future
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[quote author=Stulikesdrums link=topic=44818.msg1312997#msg1312997 date=1302465147]
It's all ver Twitter that Boas has been quoted talking about a pre-agreement with LFC. Interesting.
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Gabriele Marcotti - On twitter breaks it down:
Plenty asking about Gazzetta dello Sport line about Villas Boas + pre-contract with Liverpool. Will do my best to sort through it. Gazzetta reported Villas Boas/LFC in context of story about Roma's future. Said Baldini went to see Villas Boas and talked abt Roma job. According to Gazzetta, Villas Boas interested initially, then said had pre-contract agreement with LFC. Couple of things to bear in mind 1. Baldini still works for the English FA, not Roma. And new owners have not yet taken over club. So if I was Villas Boas, I'd keep cards close to chest, wouldn't go so far as to tell Baldini I've committed to LFC. 2. According to story, VB told Baldini that Mourinho had told VB that "he wasn't ready for Italy". Could be VB's way of politely turning down Roma. Could be untrue. Doesn't sound like something VB wd use as an excuse. He's keen to show he's his own man, wouldn't hide behind JM's opinion (based on what I've been told by those who know VB). 3. Some of the other stuff in the story- which is mostly speculative -is patently untrue from what I've been told. Doesn't mean VB line is wrong, of course, but does suggest source may have told journo stuff to serve his purposes. 4. Story also damaging to Baldini. After all, basically says he's working for Roma or Tom Di Benedetto when, officially, he's not (or isnt' supposed to). This suggests to me source of story might be somebody trying to depict Baldini in a bad light. And if meeting was between Baldini + VB, how wd source know what was said? That said, IMO, VB wd be progressive, smart choice for LFC when Dalglish goes. Sorry previous tweets have been speculative, just trying to piece together what I know. Third-party quotes always tricky. Also, VB on record saying he'll stay w/Porto another yr. Not sure it's in his interest 2 make leap now. Cd be LFC sounded him out 4 future
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Frap frap frap, has tissues on stand by
[quote author=Stulikesdrums link=topic=44818.msg1312997#msg1312997 date=1302465147]
It's all ver Twitter that Boas has been quoted talking about a pre-agreement with LFC. Interesting.
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Gabriele Marcotti - On twitter breaks it down:
Plenty asking about Gazzetta dello Sport line about Villas Boas + pre-contract with Liverpool. Will do my best to sort through it. Gazzetta reported Villas Boas/LFC in context of story about Roma's future. Said Baldini went to see Villas Boas and talked abt Roma job. According to Gazzetta, Villas Boas interested initially, then said had pre-contract agreement with LFC. Couple of things to bear in mind 1. Baldini still works for the English FA, not Roma. And new owners have not yet taken over club. So if I was Villas Boas, I'd keep cards close to chest, wouldn't go so far as to tell Baldini I've committed to LFC. 2. According to story, VB told Baldini that Mourinho had told VB that "he wasn't ready for Italy". Could be VB's way of politely turning down Roma. Could be untrue. Doesn't sound like something VB wd use as an excuse. He's keen to show he's his own man, wouldn't hide behind JM's opinion (based on what I've been told by those who know VB). 3. Some of the other stuff in the story- which is mostly speculative -is patently untrue from what I've been told. Doesn't mean VB line is wrong, of course, but does suggest source may have told journo stuff to serve his purposes. 4. Story also damaging to Baldini. After all, basically says he's working for Roma or Tom Di Benedetto when, officially, he's not (or isnt' supposed to). This suggests to me source of story might be somebody trying to depict Baldini in a bad light. And if meeting was between Baldini + VB, how wd source know what was said? That said, IMO, VB wd be progressive, smart choice for LFC when Dalglish goes. Sorry previous tweets have been speculative, just trying to piece together what I know. Third-party quotes always tricky. Also, VB on record saying he'll stay w/Porto another yr. Not sure it's in his interest 2 make leap now. Cd be LFC sounded him out 4 future
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Frap frap frap, has tissues on stand by
This is what my Porto mate says
He is being hyped up as the new Mourinho. The thing is though, it would have been impossible for any manager to NOT win the league with Porto this season. I can assure you even a monkey would have won the league this season with Porto.
His success has come from inheriting a top quality Porto side, that just needed a bit of tinkering to make it work.
I dont think he's the new Mourinho. I mean, last season it was Domingos Pacienca (Braga's manager) being talked up as some super-manager, and he's had a faily average league campaign this season.
He'd be sacked within the year - at most - at Liverpool IMO.
Let's see how he does in the CL next year.. He's probably the closest we've come to getting a "new Mourinho" though, but right now he is vastly overrated...
He is being hyped up as the new Mourinho. The thing is though, it would have been impossible for any manager to NOT win the league with Porto this season. I can assure you even a monkey would have won the league this season with Porto.
His success has come from inheriting a top quality Porto side, that just needed a bit of tinkering to make it work.
I dont think he's the new Mourinho. I mean, last season it was Domingos Pacienca (Braga's manager) being talked up as some super-manager, and he's had a faily average league campaign this season.
He'd be sacked within the year - at most - at Liverpool IMO.
Let's see how he does in the CL next year.. He's probably the closest we've come to getting a "new Mourinho" though, but right now he is vastly overrated...
Yeah but he wears a nice jumper
I'd much rather we keep Kenny on, as long as the other option is not us getting someone proven like Jose Mourinho and back him up in the transfer window. As it is safe to assume we won't be spending mega-bucks and we are more likely to get an unproven young manager like Boas, I'd much rather we keep hold of some stability in the managerial staff till we get up to speed. Currently we are far behind.
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I'd much rather we keep Kenny on, as long as the other option is not us getting someone proven like Jose Mourinho and back him up in the transfer window. As it is safe to assume we won't be spending mega-bucks and we are more likely to get an unproven young manager like Boas, I'd much rather we keep hold of some stability in the managerial staff till we get up to speed. Currently we are far behind.
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Where did that come from?
I'd much rather we keep Kenny on, as long as the other option is not us getting someone proven like Jose Mourinho and back him up in the transfer window. As it is safe to assume we won't be spending mega-bucks and we are more likely to get an unproven young manager like Boas, I'd much rather we keep hold of some stability in the managerial staff till we get up to speed. Currently we are far behind.
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Where did that come from?
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This is what my Porto mate says
He is being hyped up as the new Mourinho. The thing is though, it would have been impossible for any manager to NOT win the league with Porto this season. I can assure you even a monkey would have won the league this season with Porto.
His success has come from inheriting a top quality Porto side, that just needed a bit of tinkering to make it work.
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Yep their main competitors Benfica sold 2 or 3 quality players and Porto have Hulk and Falcao who are far too good for that league. If he wins Europa it'll be a decent achievement but the Portuguese league meh.
This is what my Porto mate says
He is being hyped up as the new Mourinho. The thing is though, it would have been impossible for any manager to NOT win the league with Porto this season. I can assure you even a monkey would have won the league this season with Porto.
His success has come from inheriting a top quality Porto side, that just needed a bit of tinkering to make it work.
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Yep their main competitors Benfica sold 2 or 3 quality players and Porto have Hulk and Falcao who are far too good for that league. If he wins Europa it'll be a decent achievement but the Portuguese league meh.
I'd fuck Hulk. He's a beasty. Pisses on young him la.
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[quote author=kingjulian link=topic=44818.msg1313107#msg1313107 date=1302479630]
I'd much rather we keep Kenny on, as long as the other option is not us getting someone proven like Jose Mourinho and back him up in the transfer window. As it is safe to assume we won't be spending mega-bucks and we are more likely to get an unproven young manager like Boas, I'd much rather we keep hold of some stability in the managerial staff till we get up to speed. Currently we are far behind.
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Where did that come from?
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There have been a number of statements by FSG since they took over about the need to spend wisely and to generate much of what we do end up spending. They'll also be aware of the impending Fair Play regs, and the consequent need not to put ourselves in a position where we have to get rid of a shedload of players in two or three years in order to keep within the rules. I reckon KJ has it pretty much right - we'll spend, but not like there's no tomorrow.
[quote author=kingjulian link=topic=44818.msg1313107#msg1313107 date=1302479630]
I'd much rather we keep Kenny on, as long as the other option is not us getting someone proven like Jose Mourinho and back him up in the transfer window. As it is safe to assume we won't be spending mega-bucks and we are more likely to get an unproven young manager like Boas, I'd much rather we keep hold of some stability in the managerial staff till we get up to speed. Currently we are far behind.
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Where did that come from?
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There have been a number of statements by FSG since they took over about the need to spend wisely and to generate much of what we do end up spending. They'll also be aware of the impending Fair Play regs, and the consequent need not to put ourselves in a position where we have to get rid of a shedload of players in two or three years in order to keep within the rules. I reckon KJ has it pretty much right - we'll spend, but not like there's no tomorrow.
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The amount of what we spend will be directly linked to how much we can reduce the wage bill this summer.
Cole, Jova, Agger, Maxi, etc should be shown the door.
Cole, Jova, Agger, Maxi, etc should be shown the door.
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[quote author=kingjulian link=topic=44818.msg1313107#msg1313107 date=1302479630]
I'd much rather we keep Kenny on, as long as the other option is not us getting someone proven like Jose Mourinho and back him up in the transfer window. As it is safe to assume we won't be spending mega-bucks and we are more likely to get an unproven young manager like Boas, I'd much rather we keep hold of some stability in the managerial staff till we get up to speed. Currently we are far behind.
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Where did that come from?
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There have been a number of statements by FSG since they took over about the need to spend wisely and to generate much of what we do end up spending. They'll also be aware of the impending Fair Play regs, and the consequent need not to put ourselves in a position where we have to get rid of a shedload of players in two or three years in order to keep within the rules. I reckon KJ has it pretty much right - we'll spend, but not like there's no tomorrow.
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Well it depends on how you classify 'spend'. We spent over 50 mil on two players in the January window. Granted, we sold 2 for the same amount but that's just good business.
[quote author=Red Mullet link=topic=44818.msg1313113#msg1313113 date=1302481003]
[quote author=kingjulian link=topic=44818.msg1313107#msg1313107 date=1302479630]
I'd much rather we keep Kenny on, as long as the other option is not us getting someone proven like Jose Mourinho and back him up in the transfer window. As it is safe to assume we won't be spending mega-bucks and we are more likely to get an unproven young manager like Boas, I'd much rather we keep hold of some stability in the managerial staff till we get up to speed. Currently we are far behind.
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Where did that come from?
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There have been a number of statements by FSG since they took over about the need to spend wisely and to generate much of what we do end up spending. They'll also be aware of the impending Fair Play regs, and the consequent need not to put ourselves in a position where we have to get rid of a shedload of players in two or three years in order to keep within the rules. I reckon KJ has it pretty much right - we'll spend, but not like there's no tomorrow.
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Well it depends on how you classify 'spend'. We spent over 50 mil on two players in the January window. Granted, we sold 2 for the same amount but that's just good business.
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The issue is we've got nobody we can sell for a high price and improve upon.
I find it hard to believe that people opted for other than Kenny after what he's done barely 4 months in charge considering where we were. The King ticks all the boxes for a Liverpool manager and has prove that his time out of the game, which was the only negative, has proven not to be an issue.
Truly amazing.
Truly amazing.
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I find it hard to believe that people opted for other than Kenny after what he's done barely 4 months in charge considering where we were. The King ticks all the boxes for a Liverpool manager and has prove that his time out of the game, which was the only negative, has proven not to be an issue.
Truly amazing.
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I'm a bit shocked myself.
I find it hard to believe that people opted for other than Kenny after what he's done barely 4 months in charge considering where we were. The King ticks all the boxes for a Liverpool manager and has prove that his time out of the game, which was the only negative, has proven not to be an issue.
Truly amazing.
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I'm a bit shocked myself.
I think the reason is many people have earmarked him as the next big thing. he is jose's understudy and his teams plays with attacking, aggressive football.
Still- Kenny has taken a struggling, injury riven squad, and turned them into the PL's form team, coping with a massive restructuring of the team in the process. That's proven, a matter of record. Give him the job already.
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