John Henry's open letter to fans

[Frogfish]

I'm looking round this thread where people are supposedly running "around like a mad woman pissing" and I don't see it sorry so I'm assuming you're being hyperbolic here for added effect.

Anwyay - onto the progress piece. I'm not seeing it yet. I'm seeing certain ideals as you say being instilled in the way were trying to play football and yes there's certainly some encouraging signs with regards some of the players - some bought, some inherited from past regimes. I don't think we're making progress yet but that's not going to happen overnight. There's little consistency in performances, we still appear short of goals and results are not going our way in the slightest. So we may not see progress for months but, you never know, we may see it far sooner. I really do hope so. The problem is the damage that occurs between now and when the point of progress begins. If it carries on it's current projected route it's going to be painful and impatience will creep in quickly. I heard lads talking in the pub post game about how "he'll be gone by Christmas". I mean, that's acting like a pissing mad woman but it's the environment football exists in now unfortunately. Too many pissed drenched geriatrics about.

Well maybe I should have said on the site since the Arsenal match ... but that was too long-winded 😉

There have been a couple of matches where the type of play Rodgers wants has been visible to all, City and even parts of the matches against Hearts and Arsenal, and in the match threads and afterwards people were excited by this style of play, however obviously this isn't going to be sustainable, with changing personnel for each game, until it becomes ingrained, habit, in all of the players. Under pressure or when frustration breaks through then players will revert, that's where perseverance and patience play their parts. I hope FSG mean what they say about relative failure this season not being a make or break for Rodgers because I like his vision but believe it will take a couple of seasons to bear ripe fruit.

 

[Sunny]

Well maybe I should have said on the site since the Arsenal match ... but that was too long-winded 😉

There have been a couple of matches where the type of play Rodgers wants has been visible to all, City and even parts of the matches against Hearts and Arsenal, and in the match threads and afterwards people were excited by this style of play, however obviously this isn't going to be sustainable, with changing personnel for each game, until it becomes ingrained, habit, in all of the players. Under pressure or when frustration breaks through then players will revert, that's where perseverance and patience play their parts. I hope FSG mean what they say about relative failure this season not being a make or break for Rodgers because I like his vision but believe it will take a couple of seasons to bear ripe fruit.

I do so that does mean FSG need to ignore those who have the lowest 'pain' barrier and start screaming for his blood first as well.

 

[Red_Water]

Transfer Window - This is the first transfer window under Rogers. Up until the last few days of it was a good once, especially within the context of fixing the outlay on crap the previous year. The ridiculous events of the last few days of the window are potentially worrying but in general (for less than we spent on Carroll) we look to have bought some young players for the future. Like many, I have my doubts about the owners, more their inability to stick with a fekin plan than their nefarious plans to bleed us dry!

Players - Sterling looks like a player, Allen already looks the dogs bollocks. Did we really expect 2 of the new first team line -up to look that good after 3/4 games? I don’t think so, yet they have both looked excellent which is a bonus surely. The other lot have to be given 15-20 games at least to settle.

On the pitch - we look like we are trying to play the right way - but it's not quite working and we look weak at the back. However how much of the shit that we have seen at the back has been down to basic errors? In my view 2 out of 3 goals at West Brom, both goals against City, goal against Hearts and then both goals against Arsenal. The 2 main worries for me are scoring goals (obviously), our play in the last third is dis-jointed and stretched with players miles apart - that's obviously not going to support the short, possession football BR is trying to promote. Secondly, other than Allen, I haven’t quite worked out what the other 2 centre midfielders are supposed to be doing? The only excuse i can think off at the moment is that we have had the centre three change pretty much every game and only once was that because of a non-enforced change, i.e. Sahin for Shelvey against Arsenal.

Time - As I have said in other threads. For the first time in an age, primarily due to having to put up with the disasters of the last 5 or so years, I feel we need 2 years to allow BR to get the club on the correct path. I rather have 2 years of steady progress and foundation building if it means we can at least realistically challenge for the top four rather than just hoping we will challenge. Most of the signs have been positive. Of course there are some that have been far from that, in fact they have been tragic, however if FSG are learning from those mistakes then fine.
I Like BR, I have a feeling he will be good for us.

 

[aquaman4]

The fact that they promised a new stadium quickly and they still haven't decided on the best option to get one is depressing .

 

[Judge Jules]

It is, but in all fairness we don't know how much of that is due to obstacles being put in their way. The planning process in this country is almost medieval in its slowness and complexity.

 

[peterhague]

Was the planning process in medieval England really that slow and complex?

I had no idea...

 

[Judge Jules]

Ha. Talk about walking straight into something. 😀

 

[gkmacca]

The stadium issue is one thing I wouldn't criticise them for at all. In fact I'd do the opposite. It's a massive decision and as far as I can see they've made a huge effort to consider every option, and they seem to be arriving at a decision that will make the most sense.

 

[Woland]

I just got told a load of plausible rock-family-tree type stuff featuring long term friendships / gangsters / agents today that was meant to have precipitated the Lizard's huge ill will towards Dalglish. Even if everyone did act professionally you could still forgive FSG for assuming that they hadn't, such are the nodes and connections. I find myself sympathising with the inter-galatic reptile menace.

But I'm gonna do a Sunny and say no more.

 

[Red Mullet]

I just got told a load of plausible rock-family-tree type stuff featuring long term friendships / gangsters / agents today that was meant to have precipitated the Lizard's huge ill will towards Dalglish. Even if everyone did act professionally you could still forgive FSG for assuming that they hadn't, such are the nodes and connections. I find myself sympathising with the inter-galatic reptile menace.

But I'm gonna do a Sunny and say no more.

But you can pm that to people, right?

 

[Sunny]

I just got told a load of plausible rock-family-tree type stuff featuring long term friendships / gangsters / agents today that was meant to have precipitated the Lizard's huge ill will towards Dalglish. Even if everyone did act professionally you could still forgive FSG for assuming that they hadn't, such are the nodes and connections. I find myself sympathising with the inter-galatic reptile menace.

But I'm gonna do a Sunny and say no more.

You're gonna tell me though right ? 😉

 

[Woland]

I wouldn't even feel that comfortable writing it down. It's a small city and I know a few of the people involved.

 

[FoxForceFive]

You're gonna tell me though right ? 😉

AND ME! Please.

 

[Red Mullet]

AND ME! Please.

Look, I asked first.

And since I work for a company that deals with high end technology I'd like to know if an "external source" is going to join in the market.

 

[Woland]

I'm off the airport in a couple of hours and I'll phone and tell you.

*backs away from all this shit*

 

[Jack D Rips]

I dont want to know Krump. But is there a softening of your attitude towards the Lizards? In the Kenny dealings I mean.

 

[Woland]

What I will say is that Dalglish has long and deep connections in both Liverpool and Newcastle, and that the original agent in the Carroll deal was sacked and replaced by Mark Curtis mid deal... Curtis is the guy with long term connections to Bolton and Allardyce, the subject of some recent adverse speculation to do with large brown paper bags and unexplained bank accounts. That's all public domain anyway.

 

[gkmacca]

I wouldn't even feel that comfortable writing it down. It's a small city and I know a few of the people involved.

Mime! That's the answer!

 

[Sunny]

What I will say is that Dalglish has long and deep connections in both Liverpool and Newcastle, and that the original agent in the Carroll deal was sacked and replaced by Mark Curtis mid deal... Curtis is the guy with long term connections to Bolton and Allardyce, the subject of some recent adverse speculation to do with large brown paper bags and unexplained bank accounts. That's all public domain anyway.

Ohhhhh.

 

[Sunny]

Still none the wiser

 

[Red Mullet]

Still none the wiser

Rosco has already accused you of this. I wouldn't give me more ammo.

 

[Sunny]

Rosco has already accused you of this. I wouldn't give me more ammo.

Ha. He accuses everyone.

 

[localny]

Indeed Woland please do

 

[Red Mullet]

Ha. He accuses everyone.

What, including me? What've I done?

 

[Sunny]

I'd say fuck all if I was Woland to be fair.

 

[Rael]

Lots of words from Henry but it doesn't say much.

 

[Rael]

Well apart from the admission that they're still making mistakes 2 years down the line.

 

[LadyRed]

With all due respect, there's nothing these owners can say or do that's gonna appease some fans. I'd rather wait and see before jumping on board with conspiracy theories.

Yes we've been screwed over before, that doesn't mean our default position needs to be one of assuming the owners are always the enemy; there's nothing good to come from a club that's divided. Can't we all just get behind the manager and owners?

 

[Sunny]

There's no conspiracy theory ! I'm just saying Rodgers was giving false promises that's all and I don't want us as a club to go down that route. I'm right behind Rodgers and I have every sympathy for what he's having to work with. As for FSG, I'm laying off that now.

 

[FoxForceFive]

FSG have achieved in two years what Thatcher never could; no strikers in Liverpool.