"It's complicated"? -- No it isn't, fuck off Barca - £113 Million bid rejected
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I still think that's the sort of statement they should have released way back when this nonsense started. While some will say that no statements mean that much, I think they'd serve more of a purpose if they happened before the saga gets going rather than after all this time - now, it just sounds as if they've been mulling over the offers until deciding not to accept them. Which could well be the truth, but that isn't what fans would want implied.
It works both ways though, they shouldn't have to reply to every bout of speculation. They'd rebuffed two offers, which isn't really "mulling them over", it's rejecting it outright and saying no without having to release a public statement. The fact there's speculation of a third bid coming means it's probably ample time to say "don't bother". Maybe they've had it out with Coutinho too and felt it's key time to be able to say that this isn't happening, had they said it earlier, knowing that there is interest from both parties, I guess it could have backfired and we could have ended up with a transfer request situation.
They've saved this card to act like legends when the transfer window despair peaked.
I disagree. I'm very much in favour of rapid response statements these days. Social media blows everything out of proportion and speeds things up so much even your silence becomes a subject for speculation, whether you like it or not. Be quick, be clear and be firm. You can't sit back and be above it all like we did back in Peter Robinson's day, admirable though it was. We haven't learnt from the era of Rick Parry and the Gerrard saga, when even Gerrard didn't know what the club thought. Take control early or find yourself hopelessly vulnerable. And you don't need to reply to every bout of speculation - one should have sufficient judgement to assess what potential story is important enough to develop rapidly into this kind of saga, and put a marker down before it goes too far.
All this belated statement suggests is that the club were ready to sell, but, after weighing things up, and probably doing a deal with the player's agent(s), it finally reached a decision. Not a good message, really.
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But why did they do this shit Photoshop?
Are you really asking why people do shit things?
Klopp would never wanted to have sold Coutinho and I don't think FSG would have done so behind his back. Obviously it's all open to interpretation, but I was firmly of the belief he was never going anywhere.
I disagree. We have heard around ten official denials from Klopp that Coutinho was going somewhere. He has repeated and repeated it. That people choose to not believe him is not the club's fault. There has been nothing but Clear Message that Liverpool would not sell, but media has produced stiry after story pointing at the opposite.
Wonder what the latest spin from the Catalan press will be after this?
There was no doubt about Klopp's position, but by sitting back and allowing all the crap about agreements being made with the player, supposed haggling between the clubs about a fee, entourages descending upon Anfield, etc etc, there was enough to feed those who wanted, or feared, that FSG had a different position, or hadn't yet reached a position. It's not an either/or situation any more as far as controlling or being controlled by a story these days. There are degrees of control or lack of it. It's a struggle and you can't opt out.
Every case, of course, can be assessed on an individual basis, but, these days, if you don't want the fans to be left in the dark, and the manager to be left to fend off questions on an almost daily basis, and the squad to be unsettled and distracted, then DO something, and do it promptly and decisively. I think quick response is a sensible policy, in principle, because (a) it concentrate's everyone's mind ('Is this something we think is important, and do we agree what, if anything, to do about it?'), and (b) it provides clarity and a sense of purpose inside the club (if the relevant people DON'T think the issue is something to which they want to make a public response, then, fine, talks can begin and offers can be weighed up, and if they DO think they want to discourage it, and be seen to discourage it, they can do so once and then shut up).
Wonder what the mood is in the catalan Coutinho camp is now..... They probably ran out of Sangria three weeks ago, and the Paella is without Scampi's and mussels.... There will be scenes like noone has ever witnessed before.
Sorry, but that's nonsense. It's not a manager's job to make those denials. As it's not in the manager's power to conclude the VVD deal. Part of the concern this story raised was whether Klopp would end up being overruled, with all of the likely consequences that would have followed..
It's not nonsense. Klopp is not just any manager. And he has not made any openings at all for Coutinho leaving. He has stated over and over again that they are wasting their time and the word is "No". He is not as stupid that he would have been this Clear if he didn't know what he was talking about. This guy has sold plenty players earlier in his managerial career.
While I see the irony and stick to Our executive floor, I feel we should not underestimate that denying a player leaving for 100 + M pounds is a bold and huge statement. It shows intent to be up there and fight for titles. A year ago people would have snapped Barca's arm of for this kind of transfer.
Klopp is Klopp and Rodgers is.... well Rodgers. Sorry bout the other stuff... Seem stuck in a moment I can't get out off.
That's a statement Ian Cotton would be proud of.
Zidanny's surprised me over this. He's usually quite sensible, but he'd have had us sell Coutinho for anything over £80 mill.
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