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Is Kenny REALLY the right choice?

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[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=44637.msg1303405#msg1303405 date=1300735560]
No. By the time we got rid of Roy we'd have been grateful just to be safe from relegation. In the event we've done massively better than that. The scale of the improvements which are evident right across the club is little short of miraculous and it would be madness to do anything other than appoint the King now.
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I'm with you JJ.

If he can get the results he has with our current squad, just imagine what he could do once we've hopefully added a few quality players in the summer.
 
I can't think of anyone else who could of done the job Kenny has done since he took over from Roy. Plus we have a manager who has won the league with two different teams, he has a proven track record. He also knows how to handle old whiskey nose. As for his age, I don't think that can be held against him. The man is probably in better shape than most of us.
 
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[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=44637.msg1303375#msg1303375 date=1300733229]
Are we really playing 'some of the best football we've played in 20years'? We've had a few good performances, yes. But yesterday, Thursday, West Ham and Wigan certainly wasn't.
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We've played better football just a couple years ago, let alone 20 years, but by god are we better than under Roy, where I'm not sure if we played football at all.
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This is what I mean Fark, things were so bad under Roy comparably of course Kenny has been amazing, but is this clouding our judgement?
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In fairness, aside from the football purist in most of us, I think in reality we all just want to win games, if we win enough to make ourselves challengers again, would anyone really have a case about the way we play? And going by results, could anyone really, genuinely question Kenny's start, considering where we came from when he arrived?

We didn't wipe the floor with Sunderland, but we are playing better than what our average has been for a good near two seasons AND getting results. The odd blip shouldn't serve is a note of caution about kenny, because we all know the squad isn't good enough. All we can ever ask is that the manager buys well and makes the most of what he has, he's done both so far.

This isn't just because the nearest comparison is Roy either, Kenny's start is better than that of our last three managers. When you consider that when Kenny arrived our two best players were Gerrard and Torres, and neither have played a part in this revival, I can't see any other reason than to be chuffed with where we're going right now with him at the helm.
 
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=44637.msg1303375#msg1303375 date=1300733229]
Are we really playing 'some of the best football we've played in 20years'? We've had a few good performances, yes. But yesterday, Thursday, West Ham and Wigan certainly wasn't.
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Sorry, but for one thing, Kenny has done an amazing job thus far.....

The other thing is that we have to realise that the current squad really is not that great..... So Kenny getting us some results and bringing the average squad together is actually a job very well done.

We were never going to play great football with the current squad, basically because the current squad is not capable of such a thing.....

We will only be able to say Kenny really has moulded a team in his own vision after 2 or so years once he has his own buys in the squad.

We dont actually have any world class outfield players anymore. Even Gerrard is no longer "World" Class.....

We have to realise we are only in the beginning of a major rebuild.
 
kenny deserves to be the manager for at least the next season

i trust him to bring through young players and spend the money made available to improve the squad

in doing so he will at the very least leave the club and squad in a better position for whoever his eventual successor is

it doesn't matter how long he stays as long as the club keeps moving in the right direction
 
Sure we've had some bad performances under Kenny but we've had some crackers too. As someone has said the squad is awful and he's squeezed what results he could out of it. We've lost four games under Kenny. Two of them within a week of him taking over the squad. One to Man U with a dodgy pen decision. One to Blackpool we're we didn't perform but, given it was a week of taking over the club, some slack has to be given.

The performances against Braga were poor but we were missing some Suarez and some others. West Ham was the worst performance for me. We just didn't show up.

But, as I've said, we've had some good performances as well and in the league our form is as good as anyones currently.

http://www.premierleague.com/page/FormGuide
 
If he wants the job and feels he can do its his as far as I'm concerned.

I get the point that the only way was up after Roy but he has done a great job. I also get the point about his age but Fergie is older, Arry is older, Wenger must be knocking on a bit now.

Ultimately, and this is the least logical argument ever, its KENNY DALGLISH for fuck's sake! Of course he's the right man for us. He always has been!
 
EVERY day Kenny Dalglish walks in the footsteps of Bill Shankly, the Scots legend who lured him from Glasgow's East End to Liverpool.

But the boy from Milton has long since carved his own special place in the hearts of the Anfield faithful - and he could now be set to make the latest love affair last well into the next decade.

Dalglish goes up against Roy Hodgson, the man he replaced on Merseyside, when Liverpool face West Brom this afternoon.

And the depth of gratitude the Scousers feel to King Kenny after he resurrected a club that had lost its way, runs as deep as their adoration of another adopted Scot.

Shankly emerged from the mining village of Glenbuck to create the modernday Liverpool. Dalglish has used the streetwise cunning developed during his formative years in Glasgow to reset Liverpool's compass.

And the man who knew Shankly better than his media followers sees similarities between the two men that stretch beyond their shared nationality.

John Roberts wrote a Shankly biography so powerful the club tried to ban it.


Now it's been re-released in paperback form and Roberts gave Record Sport his insight on the Scots taken to the hearts of the most passionate fans in England.

He said: "The statue of Bill outside Anfield represents the greatness of his achievements for the club.

"Now it's the will of the people that Kenny becomes the Liverpool manager on a permanent basis.

"The fans on what was once the Kop identify with him. He's one of them and understands the club. He appreciates it's a special club in a special place.

"And they don't hold it against Kenny that he once left for personal reasons. Dalglish had played for Liverpool on the awful night at the Heysel Stadium when so many fans lost their lives at the European Cup Final with Juventus.

"And he had managed the team on the even more tragic day when 95 Liverpool fans lost their lives at Hillsborough.


"Kenny had come to a stage where he'd had enough. But he was so highly thought of that when he won the title for Blackburn Rovers at Anfield, the home fans cheered him because it meant Manchester United were being driven into second place."

Sir Alex Ferguson was in charge of United then and he is still in control at Old Trafford 16 years later - and Roberts believes that Dalglish has that kind of longevity in him as well.

He said: "He has the urge, on the verge of his 60th birthday, to restore Liverpool to what they once were. He doesn't look like a man approaching that age.

"As someone once said, he had the face of a farm boy. You can add the attitude of the streets to that profile and he has the right people round about him.

"Shankly's great strength was that he retained people like Bob Paisley and Joe Fagan when he first went to Anfield.

"Kenny has brought in a fellow Scot, Steve Clarke, and the chemistry has worked straight away
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"All was not well at Anfield when Kenny went back to the manager's office. Fans didn't believe the club could get back to a position of strength. The side was just above the relegation zone.

"But the job that Kenny has done to lift them up the table means he's worth more to the club's owners in the summer than he was when he took over at first.

"Bill was a more outgoing figure than Kenny. Shankly could be sarcastic and verbose. Dalglish likes to be in control of what's said in the club.

"I was once thrown out of Anfield by Bill for asking about Roger Hunt throwing his shirt at the dugout when he was subbed. Kenny has been more restrained in his dealings with me.


"Bill would speak to reporters in the corridor outside the dressing room. Kenny uses a mini theatre for his conferences."

When Shankly was at the peak of his powers English football's hierarchy also competed on a level playing field.

Dalglish is now the poor relation compared to Ferguson, Carlo Ancelotti and Roberto Mancini.

Roberts said: "Chelsea is like a train set for Roman Abramovich. Mancini is boss one of the richest clubs in the world at Man City and Sir Alex is with the club who see themselves as the biggest of the lot.

"They have benefactors and Liverpool have investors. Kenny's had highs and lows in his life and has now returned mature and ready for the task."
 
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