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How to keep up with City?

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People say draws or results vs Top 6 or referring decisions but the fact is that, as it turned out, we were 15 mins from the title. Just needed that touch of luck (and Mings to not fuck up) that deserted us when we needed it most.

We were good enough.
 
People say draws or results vs Top 6 or referring decisions but the fact is that, as it turned out, we were 15 mins from the title. Just needed that touch of luck (and Mings to not fuck up) that deserted us when we needed it most.

We were good enough.

If you're relying on City not beating Villa at home you're already fucked. Yes it nearly happened but it would've been a miracle.
 
We were so close to quad last season, but faltered in the biggest two comps. City have added two more attackers to their squad, and are likely to add more. We have signed 1st teamer and 2 back up players for now.
Is that enough for us to win the league?
How to keep up? Stop trying to compete on spending power will do for a start.
 
It is getting ridiculous having to win virtually every game. Kindof ruining it. Even our greatest 80s side was patchier.
It feels like a growing differential between the top clubs and the rest. Certainly the bottom clubs, so the three promoted clubs for relegation?

VAR..... it works fine in internationals and in other leagues. I think any footie fan gets the call right after a ten sec freeze frame so dont get the fuss. Thats the frustration. Tell the ref if theres something game changing he missed. Ask him to have a look. Dont mess around with these innocuous fouls and crap. No excuse for bloody obvious hand balls though.
 
Leicester away was the most abject performance of the season. That’s the day we lost it.
 
Didn't all teams suffer from bad referring decisions? Failure was one game, as it was the same few seasons back. Tactics and personnel is where we fell short IMHO.
1. Salah well he went shit after Feb. Teams knew his style and countered him really well
2. Our right side suspect, and the overloaded it on the right
3. The MF is strong as long as we have Fabs and Thiago, and we know Thiago is suspect.
4. We absolutely have no pace through the middle as Ox went shit, and we are still keeping him. why?


I’m still a bit confused by this “pace through the middle” stuff.

Why do we need “pace through the middle” when we’re playing controlled possession against teams that mostly operate a low block?

What is that pace supposed to add?
 
If you're relying on City not beating Villa at home you're already fucked. Yes it nearly happened but it would've been a miracle.
How about losing at home to Palace? It's football. Logically City and Liverpool should win every game bar against each other but obviously they don't (City dropped points in virtually 25% of their games last season) and just as obviously the matches they don't win are to inferior teams, at home or away.

However the fact remains ... Villa were 2 up with 20 mins to go, 9/10 that would have been enough.
 
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I’m still a bit confused by this “pace through the middle” stuff.

Why do we need “pace through the middle” when we’re playing controlled possession against teams that mostly operate a low block?

What is that pace supposed to add?
Yeah you don't need pace through the middle but players who can beat a man and so disrupt the block and create space. With Thiago, Keita and Elliott we have that but even more so now with Carvalho. The more I watch that game of his against City in the FAC the more he looks ready and maybe we'll see more of him than I expected.
 
Yeah you don't need pace through the middle but players who can beat a man and so disrupt the block and create space. With Thiago, Keita and Elliott we have that but even more so now with Carvalho. The more I watch that game of his against City in the FAC the more he looks ready and maybe we'll see more of him than I expected.

He’s older than Harvey Elliot - so if he integrates quickly he could get game time, for sure.
 
I’m still a bit confused by this “pace through the middle” stuff.

Why do we need “pace through the middle” when we’re playing controlled possession against teams that mostly operate a low block?

What is that pace supposed to add?
When I say pace, I mean a player is able to run with the ball from one box to the next beating several players in the process, like Robertson does as a LB. As i understand Ox was bought into do that, add pace to the MF centre but has failed
 
We had two losses last season to City's 3. If we had converted one of those 8 draws to a win, the league would have been ours.
That game was where we looked uninterested. Didn’t do a thing right. And went 13 points behind. Had we even tried in that game and actually won everything would’ve changed.
 
I don't think anyone expected us to challenge for the title last season. At the start of it, there were questions marks about how injury had affected VVD, Mane's decline and the reliability of our best midfielders. Klopp was experimenting with Harvey and the team didn't have the right unbalanced.

It's brilliant we got into the title race at all but it was during this period we lost it.

Next season both us and City will have to build and tweak a new attack. I think City will have the harder job because their primary form of defence last season was the extra man in midfield to keep the ball and control the game but let's see
 
Or Brighton; that was the worst home result for me last season.

Most fuming I'd been after a game last season. From pissing it first half and almost going 3 up but for the disallowed goal to completely falling apart second half and clinging on for a point in the end. Piss poor Reds!!
 
When I say pace, I mean a player is able to run with the ball from one box to the next beating several players in the process, like Robertson does as a LB. As i understand Ox was bought into do that, add pace to the MF centre but has failed


But that’s very different from “pace”, it’s ball carrying and making runs from deep - we have loads of those - Kieta, Curtis, Harvey, Carvalho, etc. and you can’t have everyone in the midfield push on line that or we’d be even more exposed.

We use our FBs to do it as well.
 
Most fuming I'd been after a game last season. From pissing it first half and almost going 3 up but for the disallowed goal to completely falling apart second half and clinging on for a point in the end. Piss poor Reds!!

but that's a normal season right. You have your bad days. They were so few.
 
Our best hope is that we start off flying and City take time to find a style/formation/rhythm. It looks like they may get rid of both Jesus & Sterling, leaving them with a lot of new bodies around. We have a team capable of 90+ points again. Stick to those basics then the biggest thing should really be ensuring we actually beat them in our head-to-heads.
 
but that's a normal season right. You have your bad days. They were so few.

Blowing a 2 goal lead at home to Brighton was a right kick in the bollocks though. Margins are so fine coming up against City and that one just sticks out for me.
 
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