How the f#$!...

[Whaddapie]

... do they get away with that?

They score in the 6th minute of 4 minutes of injury time. Then their manager has a lovely little giggle with the 4th official.

Seriously - How the f#$! can they all be so f#$!ing obvious about this?

Oh, and were it any other team, the irony of that welsh tart bitching about too much added time at old trafford would crack me up.

 

[SaintGeorge67]

Complete bollocks. And why do they assume it's got to carry on because it's "attacking play"? No it doesn't, a total fucking myth. The whistle should have been blown before they took the free kick (and even then was late).

 

[SaintGeorge67]

Oh, and Fergie wouldn't even speak to Sky if that happened to him.

 

[dossena]

Bellamy scored after they announced that it was 4 minutes added time.

The goal would've added a minute.

Carrick's substitution (30 seconds)

Ref should've blown the whistle at 95:30..

He got it right.

 

[SaintGeorge67]

Bellamy's goal to kick off didn't take 60 seconds.

 

[dossena]

Are you sure?

 

[SaintGeorge67]

No

 

[Squiggles]

Time does get added on in injury time.

I don't think there's much we can complain about besides City's defending.

 

[dossena]

City has themselves to blame really. They can't defend to save their lives. Micah Richards should take up wrestling or something, cos the first and the last goals are no one else's fault but his the shit cunt.

 

[Oncy]

It was right to extend injury time.
No complaints.

 

[Whaddapie]

[quote author=dossena link=topic=35950.msg947074#msg947074 date=1253458224]
Bellamy scored after they announced that it was 4 minutes added time.

The goal would've added a minute.

Carrick's substitution (30 seconds)

Ref should've blown the whistle at 95:30..

He got it right.
[/quote]

Why would the goal add a minute when every other goal ever scored a) adds 30 seconds and b) if scored in injury time doesn't add a second? And how come Owen's winner didn't see an additional minute added, in that case?

Did he bollocks get it right.

 

[Tinto]

What's the point of stating the amount of injury time if it doesn't mean anything?

The idea of letting everyone know how much injury time there is going to be was precisely to stop this kind of thing from happening. It was to stop the perception of refs favouring some teams over others. The ref should have blown shortly after the 4 mins was up or they shouldn't bother with letting people know how much injury there should and shouldn't be.

 

[SaintGeorge67]

[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=35950.msg947086#msg947086 date=1253458604] And how come Owen's winner didn't see an additional minute added, in that case?
[/quote]

Indeed

 

[Whaddapie]

Jesus Christ, we didn't even get the full 3 minutes in Athens a few years back, and these cnuts get 6 minutes of 4?

And I know that they deserved the win, but that doesn't help!

 

[dossena]

[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=35950.msg947086#msg947086 date=1253458604]
[quote author=dossena link=topic=35950.msg947074#msg947074 date=1253458224]
Bellamy scored after they announced that it was 4 minutes added time.

The goal would've added a minute.

Carrick's substitution (30 seconds)

Ref should've blown the whistle at 95:30..

He got it right.
[/quote]

Why would the goal add a minute when every other goal ever scored a) adds 30 seconds and b) if scored in injury time doesn't add a second? And how come Owen's winner didn't see an additional minute added, in that case?

Did he bollocks get it right.
[/quote]

When Owen scored, the ref did add a few seconds before blowing the whistle.

Don't be bitter.

 

[Tinto]

[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=35950.msg947088#msg947088 date=1253458693]
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=35950.msg947086#msg947086 date=1253458604] And how come Owen's winner didn't see an additional minute added, in that case?
[/quote]

Indeed
[/quote]

Absolutely... that can't be a rule as football matches has the potential of going on forever then.

 

[rage]

who cares.

i saw a flawed city side and a mediocre utd team who's best player is closer to 40 than 30 and won't last the season.

 

[Whaddapie]

[quote author=dossena link=topic=35950.msg947091#msg947091 date=1253458927]
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=35950.msg947086#msg947086 date=1253458604]
[quote author=dossena link=topic=35950.msg947074#msg947074 date=1253458224]
Bellamy scored after they announced that it was 4 minutes added time.

The goal would've added a minute.

Carrick's substitution (30 seconds)

Ref should've blown the whistle at 95:30..

He got it right.
[/quote]

Why would the goal add a minute when every other goal ever scored a) adds 30 seconds and b) if scored in injury time doesn't add a second? And how come Owen's winner didn't see an additional minute added, in that case?

Did he bollocks get it right.
[/quote]

When Owen scored, the ref did add a few seconds before blowing the whistle.

Don't be bitter.
[/quote]

A few seconds? Not nearly as many as he added when Bellamy scored, eh..?

 

[Y1]

Will Rafa add this to his 'facts' dossier? The referee is obviously wrong.

 

[ibromurph]

Why are people even surprised? Happens time and again. When United play well, they win. When United don't play well, the refs seem to have their backs and they find ways for them to win. Happens mostly at Old Trafford. I can only see them ever losing away games except when a team clearly beats them (as we did last year).

I think they'd still be playing injury time right now if United still hadn't scored. The only thing I was disappointed with was how obvious it all was. The ref should have at least given Citeh an extra minute of injury time after the winner to make it seem like he wasn't helping one team.

 

[Whaddapie]

[quote author=rage link=topic=35950.msg947093#msg947093 date=1253458995]
who cares.

i saw a flawed city side and a mediocre utd team who's best player is closer to 40 than 30 and won't last the season.


[/quote]

I always care how our fiercest rivals do, now that we're genuine contenders, mate. Don't you?

And Rooney, Ferdinand, Fletcher, Vidic, Evra, etc... are their main players, and you well know it.

 

[dossena]

Picture this, the referee is 10 seconds away from blowing full-time, but Owen scored.. so He added that 10 seconds in the end after the celebration and all that.

I don't buy that Fergie is bribing the ref and all that..

I did find the little "friendly chat" he had with the fourth official blood boiling though..

 

[rage]

[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=35950.msg947098#msg947098 date=1253459178]
[quote author=rage link=topic=35950.msg947093#msg947093 date=1253458995]
who cares.

i saw a flawed city side and a mediocre utd team who's best player is closer to 40 than 30 and won't last the season.


[/quote]

I always care how our fiercest rivals do, now that we're genuine contenders, mate. Don't you?

And Rooney, Ferdinand, Fletcher, Vidic, Evra, etc... are their main players, and you well know it.
[/quote]

really i thought without giggs they'd create far less. and counting fletcher as one of their main players just shows how far they've fallen.

city were defensively crap and deserved what they got.

 

[Whaddapie]

[quote author=dossena link=topic=35950.msg947099#msg947099 date=1253459236]
Picture this, the referee is 10 seconds away from blowing full-time, but Owen scored.. so He added that 10 seconds in the end after the celebration and all that.

I don't buy that Fergie is bribing the ref and all that..

I did find the little "friendly chat" he had with the fourth official blood boiling though..
[/quote]

Mate, the bottom line is that you've stated a rule for adding time when goals are scored - Fair enough.

Two goals were scored in injury time. One earned approx 90 seconds of additional time. The other about 15 seconds. Guess which was the scum's winner...

I don't think they're bribed either, by the way. It's not that tangible. But there's not another team would have gotten 6 minutes like they did today. It certainly wouldn't have happened had they made it 3-3 in the final seconds.

And yes, the giggle at the end had me wanting to kill people.

 

[Whaddapie]

[quote author=rage link=topic=35950.msg947103#msg947103 date=1253459434]
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=35950.msg947098#msg947098 date=1253459178]
[quote author=rage link=topic=35950.msg947093#msg947093 date=1253458995]
who cares.

i saw a flawed city side and a mediocre utd team who's best player is closer to 40 than 30 and won't last the season.


[/quote]

I always care how our fiercest rivals do, now that we're genuine contenders, mate. Don't you?

And Rooney, Ferdinand, Fletcher, Vidic, Evra, etc... are their main players, and you well know it.
[/quote]

really i thought without giggs they'd create far less. and counting fletcher as one of their main players just shows how far they've fallen.

city were defensively crap and deserved what they got.

[/quote]

Giggs was great today, sure. But he's no longer amoung their week in, week out top performers... A wonderful option to have as a "role player" though, eh?

And they've not fallen near as far as you'd like to think - Fletchers actually a bloody good player, who compliments their style well.

 

[Y1]

Giggs was fantastic today.

 

[ibromurph]

It's games like these where we'd drop points and United win, that will give them that extra 3-6points to win the title in May.

Let's be real, it's not like refs cheat for them every week. They invariably batter the opposition. But in some crucial, season-defining games/moments where there's more than just 3 points on the table (psychological impact/boosts which lead into future games) etc, refs seem to help United out of tights spots. Who cares about Rio Ferdinand's howler now that they won? It may knocked his confidence next week knowing he had cost them 3points, but he'll put it behind him now and be back to his best next weekend.

That Spurs game last year being a prime example of season-defining moment going their way. But hey, United apologists will point out that it didn't matter as they went on to smash Spurs 5-2 so who cares if the ref gifted them one right, because they would have won 4-2 anyway? It's the psychological boost of winning games like today that I feel help them unfairly.

 

[Shadey]

If it was the other way round they'ed be a tribunal then the FA would take the goal off citeh .. ARRRRRRRRAH
[size=5pt]i'm exagerating but you know where am coming from[/size]

 

[Whaddapie]

[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=35950.msg947114#msg947114 date=1253459897]
It's games like these where we'd drop points and United win, that will give them that extra 3-6points to win the title in May.

Let's be real, it's not like refs cheat for them every week. They invariably batter the opposition. But in some crucial, season-defining games/moments where there's more than just 3 points on the table (psychological impact/boosts which lead into future games) etc, refs seem to help United out of tights spots. Who cares about Rio Ferdinand's howler now that they won? It may knocked his confidence next week knowing he had cost them 3points, but he'll put it behind him now and be back to his best next weekend.

That Spurs game last year being a prime example of season-defining moment going their way. But hey, United apologists will point out that it didn't matter as they went on to smash Spurs 5-2 so who cares if the ref gifted them one right, because they would have won 4-2 anyway? It's the psychological boost of winning games like today that I feel help them unfairly.
[/quote]

Yes. That AND the points that they shouldn't be getting.

I mean, we battered Stoke last season, but the ref didn't let us keep playing 'til we got a winner, did he?

(We'd probably still be playing, mind...)

 

[cochyn]

[quote author=dossena link=topic=35950.msg947074#msg947074 date=1253458224]
Bellamy scored after they announced that it was 4 minutes added time.

The goal would've added a minute.

Carrick's substitution (30 seconds)

Ref should've blown the whistle at 95:30..

He got it right.
[/quote]

fine you take your word on the goal added time and the subs as well. But why the fuck should there be added time for a goal scored! Surely that's the point and no time should be added!