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My niece is in the US doing a year in Uni there and she went to her Yank boyfriend's family for Thanksgiving. She said fucking everything on the plate had sugar in it. The Sweet potato mash had fucking marshmallows in it. The gravy had lashings of syrup in it. She said it was awful.
Is she doing the BEI study America? That's what I done, it was great. But yes, the food in the average American supermarket is packaged and processed to fuck. The UK isn't far behind it. I'm always slightly shocked every time I go back home and see the sheer amount of processed crap.

Having said that, I had some fine dining experiences in the states, especially when we stayed with our friend's family in Louisiana...
 
When we have a roast now, which cos it's fucking freezing is still like twice a week, my missus starts doing the gravy in the morning. Starts off by caramelising loads of onions, leaks and garlic, low heat for hours, then adds all the herbs and chillis and a stupid amount of red wine and port, reducing, repeating, and it all takes hours and makes the house smell amazing. Later adds the stock and whatever other juices come from the meat, and I can't get over how amazing it all is. I got that recipe from my mate at the camberwell arms, who do an amazing roast.

If you think British food is shit then good for you but I don't think you can have looked very hard. I think it's based on people growing up post war when rationing and poverty had been huge problems, so food became fuel and that meant as much cheap bland shit as possible, and that had a generational impact. But that's a while ago now.
A good gravy makes all the difference, much like our team!!

I spent two days doing the crimbo gravy. Started off with roasting chicken wings with carrots, onions & celery smothers in loads of herbs. Then take the roasted stuff and make a stock with it. No port or wine ‘cos the boys won’t eat anything that rich. Strain all that once cooked down. On the day add the juices from the turkey, thicken it up and bobs your uncle.
 
Also, the decent restaurants in Belfast are very fucking good these days. When I was growing up most places were crap and all you would get would have been burgers or lasagne with a side of salad and coleslaw.
 
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Is she doing the BEI study America? That's what I done, it was great. But yes, the food in the average American supermarket is packaged and processed to fuck. The UK isn't far behind it. I'm always slightly shocked every time I go back home and see the sheer amount of processed crap.

Having said that, I had some fine dining experiences in the states, especially when we stayed with our friend's family in Louisiana...
Not sure what the scheme is – some business related add-on to her degree (in psychology). She's going to your Alma mater in Norn Iron, and goes back home to finish next year.
 
Hiddink was all right. And Rinus Michels, of course.

They did produce some of the absolute worst over the years though - Frank de Boer still holds the record for the worst record in EPL history and the likes of Koeman and Advocaat played utterly turgid schematic football.
which is weird considering the fact they exported Total Football and today you see almost every top manager play a variation of it.
 
We'll be taking an (informed) Rodgers-esque punt. This isn't going to be a Benitez/Klopp-style appointment when there's a reassuring list of credible trophies behind them. Any incoming manager looks set to a) be fortunate and b) have their career fast-tracked/turbocharged. The problem of having a manager leave on their terms is that we are at the mercy of the market, and that market is looking increasingly shite.
 
We'll be taking an (informed) Rodgers-esque punt. This isn't going to be a Benitez/Klopp-style appointment when there's a reassuring list of credible trophies behind them. Any incoming manager looks set to a) be fortunate and b) have their career fast-tracked/turbocharged. The problem of having a manager leave on their terms is that we are at the mercy of the market, and that market is looking increasingly shite.

My slight concern (based on little, probably unfair) is on that 'informed' part. Just like I keep reading that our appointment will be 'brave'.

It just gives me an image of people deliberately trying to find a manager noone else has thought of, just to prove how clever they are.
 
Not sure what the scheme is – some business related add-on to her degree (in psychology). She's going to your Alma mater in Norn Iron, and goes back home to finish next year.
Yes, that's the same one I went on. I went on it during the glory days, there was 150 of us with all sorts of extras. It's been scaled back quite a bit from what I've seen.
 
Blue skies right now. It’s wonderful in my garden. Thing is coming to life.

As Woland says, it’s boss going down the beach when it’s not quite perfect. I like it down there when it’s bad watching the ocean go mad.

I love when spring gets warm enough and you can sit out on castle street watching people go by.

I love the smell of autumn approaching.

It’s boss here.

You southern shandy drinkers are just wimps. No wonder there’s loads of fannies in the gaff. You’re just not hard enough.
When I moved South I didn’t instantly become Nesh and require lemonade in my lager. I just got to stay drier and more tanned
 
Whoever we hire will cause a shitstorm by parts of our fanbase regardless. The next appointment will be fighting an uphill battle from the start when replacing Klopp.
Anyone who takes on the job will at least need to have some massive balls.
 
My slight concern (based on little, probably unfair) is on that 'informed' part. Just like I keep reading that our appointment will be 'brave'.

It just gives me an image of people deliberately trying to find a manager noone else has thought of, just to prove how clever they are.

There was a dodgy quote the other day about how the spreadsheet lads were gonna be brave and not popular with their recruitment. I'd fire them before they start with that bullshit.
 
Fucking hell dreamy. We aren’t eating potatoes and onions. A roast dinner is absolutely phenomenal. There’s no better breakfast than a full English.
I've been over here for 25 years now, and I have come to the conclusion that a full Irish is better than a full English, for the sole reason that we get white pudding as well as black.

But I hate it when hash browns are added ... I like to assume that's an American thing
 
I've been over here for 25 years now, and I have come to the conclusion that a full Irish is better than a full English, for the sole reason that we get white pudding as well as black.

But I hate it when hash browns are added ... I like to assume that's an American thing
Man, I’ve not had white pudding in ages. You can throw the soda bread into the sea.
 
I actually can't believe we're strongly linked with some stupid Dutch fucking nobody.

Never mind he's won next to fuck all and he's going to win another load of fuck all this year, they all turn out to be weird Presbyterian technocrats who force their squad to eat cold boiled shit and pass sideways and then smirk as they tell the press that everything is just fine with a narrow defeat to Everton

Fuck right off with this ridiculous bullshit.

I agree with you about Dutch coaches of the past, but Slot seems to represent a different generation and philosophy within Dutch football, together with the likes of Lijnders and Peter Bosz - managers who give their players a lot more freedom within their system and insist on intense attacking football instead of sterile control. Slot might be the best manager among that cohort, but it remains to be seen whether his best is world-class or simply very good.

For what it’s worth, I’ve watched some of Feyenoord’s games this season and liked their approach, even in games where they fell short. It would be a big step up to a club like Liverpool, but it’s easier if you don’t have to drastically change tactics and philosophy compared to Klopp. Basically think of Slot as Lijnders who is actually a head coach.
 
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Liverpool are considering Feyenoord coach Arne Slot as the man to replace Jurgen Klopp.

Slot has become one of the most coveted coaches in Europe, with Barcelona and Bayern Munich also interested in the Dutchman.

Now Liverpool’s extended recruitment process has identified the 45-year-old as a possible successor as Klopp prepares for an emotional farewell next month.

No deal is in place yet, but Slot’s name is understood to be high on a shortlist which has been dwindling over recent weeks.

Former Kop favourite Xabi Alonso ruled himself out to stay at Bayer Leverkusen, while the likelihood of Sporting Lisbon’s Ruben Amorim moving to Anfield has significantly receded, the club having currently moved on to alternatives.

Slot was pursued by Tottenham Hotspur last summer, but rejected the chance to move to the Premier League and committed his future to Feyenoord. It is felt it is only a matter of time before he joins one of Europe’s top clubs having already turned down a number of opportunities.

Slot rose to prominence after guiding Feyenoord to only their second Eredivisie title success this century last season. Last weekend he added the Dutch Cup to his honours list.

One of the attractions of Slot is the style of football achieved on a modest budget.
A year ago, Slot was being talked about much like Alonso in the Bundesliga in 2024, as Feyenoord took on and beat Ajax and reached the Europa League quarter-finals. A year earlier he led the club to the first Europa Conference League final.

Slot totally shifted perceptions of Feyenoord from a dull, defensive side to one of the most exciting in the Eredivisie. He has been described as a football disciple of Pep Guardiola, with a coaching style similar to Mikel Arteta and Roberto De Zerbi.
De Zerbi has also been referenced as a contender for the Anfield post.

Liverpool’s recruitment process is being overseen by Michael Edwards, who recently returned as owner Fenway Sports Group football chief executive, with sporting director Richard Hughes. Hughes officially starts in his new role this summer, but will undoubtedly have a huge input in the identity of the next manager.

As an up-and-coming coach whose achievements give the impression he is punching above his club’s financial weight, it is easy to see why Slot has so many admirers at Anfield.
 
I'd rather Gary O Neil

In every sense of the word.

I feel ill just watching some of the Dutch League games. That's even before I look at him.
 
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While Napoli have felt like the story of European football this season there is something almost as extraordinary taking place in Holland that even rivals Leicester City’s amazing Premier League title win in 2016.

The Feyenoord team of Arne Slot play some of the most exciting, high-energy, attacking football on the continent alongside Napoli and they have taken the Eredivisie by storm, leading by eight points over Ajax with just one defeat in 28 league games.

They are also into the last eight of the Europa League after beating Shakhtar Donetsk 7-1 at home
in the last round and face Roma on Thursday. This brings Slot, who is being looked at by a number of Premier League clubs, back up against Jose Mourinho for a rematch of last year's Uefa Conference League Final, when Roma beat Feyenoord.

And all of this is being achieved on a shoestring.

Feyenoord may traditionally be the third biggest club in Holland behind Ajax and PSV Eindhoven, but that gives a false impression. They are not only far behind the Dutch giants in terms of budget but also have been, in recent years, one of its most boring, defensive teams, especially under Slot’s predecessor Dick Advocaat.
How that has changed.

Examining the financial disparity gives a sense of how well Slot has done since he left AZ Alkmaar, having achieved their highest-ever points total, to take over at Feyenoord in the summer of 2021.

So impressive has been the work of the 44-year-old former midfielder, who is a disciple of Pep Guardiola, that more Premier League clubs are taking a keen interest. Leeds United tried to hire him in February after sacking Jesse Marsch (and he would be a natural successor to Marcelo Bielsa) but he stayed in Rotterdam.

There are vacancies at Tottenham Hotspur and, in the summer, Chelsea and Crystal Palace – it would be remiss of them not to consider Slot.

It does feel that it is only a matter of time before Slot makes his move to England, where there are strong similarities in the way he coaches and the playing style he demands to Mikel Arteta at Arsenal and Brighton’s Roberto De Zerbi. He is also friends with Liverpool’s assistant manager Pep Lijnders while there is, of course, an obvious comparison with Manchester United’s Erik ten Hag, who moved from Ajax. Except Slot’s football is even more attacking and it was he, not Ten Hag, who won the Rinus Michels Award for Eredivisie manager of the season last year.

Radically changing how the team play
Mention of Ajax draws the most stark comparison. When Slot took over, Feyenoord sold top-scorer Steven Berghuis, with 18 goals, to Ajax for 6.5 million euros and used 4.5 million euros to buy Gernot Trauner, Marcus Pedersen and Fredrik Aursnes, who all improved the squad.

Feyenoord finished third, having been fifth the season before, but that does not provide the full picture as Slot completely overhauled their defensive playing style.
The club wanted him to do it and, interestingly so did the players. The coach exploding the myth that ‘you can only work with what you have got’. Instead, with a fierce pressing game in which Feyenoord go man-for-man with their opponents all over the pitch, he showed that players can change.

Interestingly it was one of his main motivations for joining Feyenoord: to show the world it can be done.

In Slot’s first team meeting he played clips of the 2021 Champions League final between Chelsea and Manchester City and asked the simple question: why were there so few chances despite there being so many good attacking players?

The answer was equally as simple: it was because all those attackers also made incredible defensive runs to nullify their opponents. Slot then contrasted that with the lack of running Feyenoord had done the season before and compared the distance covered – far less – to his AZ side.

His approach was also simple, as is his mantra: his teams defend by attacking. While Jürgen Klopp’s Liverpool, for example, wait for ‘pressing triggers’ Slot asks his players to press all the time.
It sounds exhausting but, after a few weeks, it becomes second nature.

The next part of that is to try and control games by emphasising ball possession, which is straight out of Guardiola’s playbook. Slot believes that more defensive football is not only more tiring but less stimulating for the players. Slot argues they cannot improve by primarily thinking about defending.

In Holland they call it indoctrineren (indoctrinate) and Slot bombarded the players with stats, with clips and with far more sophisticated and intense training sessions in which every minute is accounted for. City and Napoli are reference points to this train-the-way-you-play approach. In a recent presentation – with a multi-national squad, all meetings are conducted in English – Slot used Casemiro of Manchester United as an example. Slot highlighted the player's desire to win as exemplified by Casemiro's determination to head the opening goal in the Carabao Cup final. And this from a Brazilian international who has won the Champions League five times.

Creating an exciting team on a shoestring budget
Then last summer the changes that were made were even more dramatic as 70 million euros worth of players, led by Tyrell Malacia, who joined United and Luis Sinisterra, who was signed by Leeds, were sold. Incredibly, Slot lost seven players from his starting XI and also lost three loanees including Arsenal’s Reiss Nelson.

In came no fewer than 17 players in one transfer window with just 30 million euros spent. So Feyenoord made a significant profit but have a far better team. Two of those players, midfielder Quinten Timber and defender David Hancko, cost 6.5 million euros each, which meant just 17 million euros was spent on 15 players.

To put that in context the 17 were signed for the same amount Ajax spent to bring in Steven Bergwijn from Tottenham. Feyenoord’s highest paid player earns 1.5 million euros from a total budget of just 22 million euros – less than a third of Ajax’s best earners


And yet with a transfer surplus of 40 million euros, Slot has created a team that is one of the most exciting in Europe.

Players such as 23-year-old midfielder Mats Wieffer and right-back Lutsharel Geertruida, both just called up for latest Dutch squad, are catching the eye while Turkish international Orkun Kokcu has been transformed into one of the best midfielders in the Eredivisie and will be in demand next summer. Again, Premier League clubs are watching.

Slot's astounding attention to detail
Such is Slot’s attention to detail that the ‘rondo’ – the training drill whereby players attempt to keep the ball while a smaller group aim to intercept – is even extremely specific.

Slot is concerned the drill does not allow players to ‘scan’ (to check the options on the pitch) which is one of the fundamentals of passing and so he insists that they can only take one touch, that they cannot return possession to the player who passed to them and, crucially, that the ball always stays below the knee. Players are even encouraged to consider which foot they are passing with.

Given the style of play is so demanding it is impressive that Feyenoord have suffered so few injuries
, especially in contrast to Bielsa when he was at Leeds which is maybe, also, why they were interested in hiring Slot.

With this Slot is again precise in how he trains. For example he has concluded that in sessions for the days immediately after games the players should work in a space no longer than 40 metres. If they play in bigger areas it means they have to accelerate more and sports medical science has proved that running above 20km/h risks more muscle injuries.

Slot does not play games of 11 v 11 in training as most coaches do and works hard on the mental side of the sport. He has even convinced the Feyenoord players that the more games they play the stronger they will become.

What next for Slot, who has two years left on his contract at Feyenoord, will be fascinating especially if, as seems likely, he wins the Dutch title and leads them back into the Champions League. He will undoubtedly be a coach in demand. For now, though, something extraordinary is taking place in Holland.


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