Has Salah turned the corner

[Dreambeliever]

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The likes of Ross would have argued he was on a downward trend from his first season insanity but after progressively poorer goal returns in the following two years he’s had a sensational year again, strangely when we’ve struggled and not gone deep in any cup.

If we keep him in the summer can we expect the same again?

He certainly seems to look after himself and that greediness will surely point to another 25+ season next year.

 

[bluebell]

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31 (two games left)

The likes of Ross would have argued he was on a downward trend from his first season insanity but after progressively poorer goal returns in the following two years he’s had a sensational year again, strangely when we’ve struggled and not gone deep in any cup.

If we keep him in the summer can we expect the same again?

He certainly seems to look after himself and that greediness will surely point to another 25+ season next year.

That's on average over 31 goals per season

 

[StevieM]

He had.

Then you posted this.

He’ll never score again.

 

[The Nomad]

Burn in hell you jinxy mofo..*

*Or just accept you are the next sacrificial lamb.

 

[Hansern]

The clue should have been «according to Ross»..

 

[Frogfish]

I'd hate to think where we'd have been without him ... or where we'll be next season without his 30+ goals should the unthinkable happen as some here have advocated.

 

[Pesam]

According to L'Equipe PSG are speaking with Salah's agent. I think he will leave this summer. He's one of my favourite all time reds but sentimentality aside, if we could get £100m for a 29 year old (he will be 29 in a few weeks) we would be mad not to take it.

 

[Best Believe It]

The only point in selling him to PSG is if we get Mbappe in return.

 

[The Nomad]

The only point in selling him to PSG is if we get Mbappe in return.

This!

 

[LeTallecWiz]

According to L'Equipe PSG are speaking with Salah's agent. I think he will leave this summer. He's one of my favourite all time reds but sentimentality aside, if we could get £100m for a 29 year old (he will be 29 in a few weeks) we would be mad not to take it.

The business logic is great.
As @peekay said in his post, we cannot replace what he adds. He's been so important to Klopp's revolution.
Going to be a tough tough call.

 

[Tinto]

The business logic is great.
As @peekay said in his post, we cannot replace what he adds. He's been so important to Klopp's revolution.
Going to be a tough tough call.

We never replaced what Coutinhno gave us but still managed to build a better team without him

 

[LeTallecWiz]

We never replaced what Coutinhno gave us but still managed to build a better team without him

Oh for sure - but I worry as Mane has been weak this year, and Bobby has not scored enough goals now for a while.
We'd have to bring in a proper goalscorer ...

 

[peekay]

We never replaced what Coutinhno gave us but still managed to build a better team without him

Salah is way more important to us and Klopp than Coutinho ever was. Also, @dmishra made a point about Salah's fitness. He is the type who can play at a high level into 32-33.

 

[Stevesquash]

We won't sell unless it's some incredible deal and we have a direct replacement lined up.

He's simply too important. There's nothing he doesn't give us. Not only is he scoring for fun, he's doing more of the defensive duties now, and he provides assists.

In the category of too important to go, along with VVD and our new striker... Alisson.

 

[Tinto]

Salah is way more important to us and Klopp than Coutinho ever was. Also, @dmishra made a point about Salah's fitness. He is the type who can play at a high level into 32-33.

Can't disagree with that except I'm not so fearful of it happening if Mo wants to go and we get a good price.

Klopp has shown he can spend money wisely and build a winning team.

 

[Aidan O' Neill]

According to L'Equipe PSG are speaking with Salah's agent. I think he will leave this summer. He's one of my favourite all time reds but sentimentality aside, if we could get £100m for a 29 year old (he will be 29 in a few weeks) we would be mad not to take it.

Have to disagree. He is supremely fit and looks like he'll be in good shape for another few years. 100 million is loads but who do we replace him with?

 

[peekay]

Have to disagree. He is supremely fit and looks like he'll be in good shape for another few years. 100 million is loads but who do we replace him with?

The only reason we should consider selling him is if he shows signs of not signing a new contract. Even if he does that, I would prefer he stays here and leaves on a free, so that we can take one more shot at the title in the next two years. He is operating in Rush/Fowler territory in terms of goalscoring stats. Not easy to replace that in the transfer market even with 150 million.

 

[StevieM]

Surely we want our front 3 to remain and we just start feeding them a slab of Red Bull again every day, after giving them a year off?

 

[rubans]

The only reason we should consider selling him is if he shows signs of not signing a new contract. Even if he does that, I would prefer he stays here and leaves on a free, so that we can take one more shot at the title in the next two years. He is operating in Rush/Fowler territory in terms of goalscoring stats. Not easy to replace that in the transfer market even with 150 million.

Was thinking the same. Brought him for less than 40 and his image rights must have recouped that alone economically let alone what his goals have helped us achieve, if he wants to leave on a free then he’s earnt it. Let him have another 2yrs to get close to the top 10 LFC greats. Priority is to get another striker to take the load off him for next season.

 

[peekay]

Was thinking the same. Brought him for less than 40 and his image rights must have recouped that alone economically let alone what his goals have helped us achieve, if he wants to leave on a free then he’s earnt it. Let him have another 2yrs to get close to the top 10 LFC greats. Priority is to get another striker to take the load off him for next season.

He is also developing the habit of scoring against United. A habit which we all deeply appreciate in a player.

 

[Frogfish]

According to L'Equipe PSG are speaking with Salah's agent. I think he will leave this summer. He's one of my favourite all time reds but sentimentality aside, if we could get £100m for a 29 year old (he will be 29 in a few weeks) we would be mad not to take it.

We would be mad to sell him at all. Where on earth are we going to replace 30+ goals ? We are never going for (never mind getting) M'Bappe or Haaland so a massive drop-off in goal return is not going to return us to the top of the pile.

 

[Frogfish]

We never replaced what Coutinhno gave us but still managed to build a better team without him

And part of that 'better team' is Salah. Coutinho didn't ever give us anything like Mo's goal return which is why he was easily replaced. No way we can replace him. Top teams just don't sell their top goal-scorers unless absolutely forced to. We are not in that boat yet.

 

[tomasjj]

The contract situation and the age dictates this, along with the demand.
Getting 100 mill and reinvesting that in two top players could balance out the loss, but it is not easy getting the two inbound signings right.
We almost always end up doing this, selling off some of our best players and replacing, so I imagine this will also happen now.

 

[dmishra]

I don't see Salah leaving tbh. Who has 100 million lying around with them as loose change, and who's willing to part with that for a 29 year old?

PSG would conceivably be interested if Mbappe were being sold, but that's a major if. I also think that Salah is pretty ambitious and cares more about playing on the bigger stage (England) than purely money. PSG would not be a step up in footballing terms at the present moment. Of course if we miss out on CL football, that might change.

I think the most probable outcome is that Salah gets a contract extension till 2025, and finishes his career as one of our greatest ever goalscorers.

 

[Pesam]

We would be mad to sell him at all. Where on earth are we going to replace 30+ goals ? We are never going for (never mind getting) M'Bappe or Haaland so a massive drop-off in goal return is not going to return us to the top of the pile.

Mané, Salah, Wini, Hendo, Firmino and Van Dijk, have all been pivotal to our success over the last few years.........none of them are getting any younger; by the start of next season Van Dijk will be 30, the 3 forward lads will be all be 29, Wini and Hendo are already in their 30's (as is Thiago). We don't have a lot of spare cash to spend so Klopp has to generate much of his budget and we need to buy some young talent to gradually replace these 6.

We will get nothing for Wini; we need Hendo next season and anyway he won't have a great sell-on value; Van Dijk is irreplaceable. This means we should be looking at selling one of the front 3. Firmino's value has probably dropped due to his poor form and we wouldn't get more than £60m. So it's Mané or Salah to go! I'd keep Salah as my preference but I think he is the more likely to want away. If we can get £100m for him and our scouts can find the "new Salah" aged 24 or under, for under £70m then the rebuilding process will be underway.

I don't want us to sell anyone but we can't just keep everyone and let this generation just wither away. Already there are signs of an aging squad in that none of our front 3 close the opposition defences down the way they did 2 years ago.

 

[StevieM]

Given that we’ve already signed and integrated Jota to play on the left and given who’s form has fallen off a cliff in the last 6 months - I’d be selling Mané before Salah.

 

[Frogfish]

Mané, Salah, Wini, Hendo, Firmino and Van Dijk, have all been pivotal to our success over the last few years.........none of them are getting any younger; by the start of next season Van Dijk will be 30, the 3 forward lads will be all be 29, Wini and Hendo are already in their 30's (as is Thiago). We don't have a lot of spare cash to spend so Klopp has to generate much of his budget and we need to buy some young talent to gradually replace these 6.

We will get nothing for Wini; we need Hendo next season and anyway he won't have a great sell-on value; Van Dijk is irreplaceable. This means we should be looking at selling one of the front 3. Firmino's value has probably dropped due to his poor form and we wouldn't get more than £60m. So it's Mané or Salah to go! I'd keep Salah as my preference but I think he is the more likely to want away. If we can get £100m for him and our scouts can find the "new Salah" aged 24 or under, for under £70m then the rebuilding process will be underway.

I don't want us to sell anyone but we can't just keep everyone and let this generation just wither away. Already there are signs of an aging squad in that none of our front 3 close the opposition defences down the way they did 2 years ago.

You are assuming that now is the time for regeneration. Whereas I want to see another PL & CL bid from this squad as they are now all in their prime (and I'm pretty sure from Klopp's comments that's how he sees it too).

With one or two first team additions I believe we can definitely challenge for both. Now is not the time to sell Salah and break up this squad. For defenders 30 is nothing anyway, VvD has at least another 4 years in him at the top.

 

[Frogfish]

Given that we’ve already signed and integrated Jota to play on the left and given who’s form has fallen off a cliff in the last 6 months - I’d be selling Mané before Salah.

Without a doubt. His general lack of control (he has his moments) coughing up possession and willingness to go to ground (plus the countless number of stupid fouls he gives away) all count against him in my book.

 

[Pesam]

Given that we’ve already signed and integrated Jota to play on the left and given who’s form has fallen off a cliff in the last 6 months - I’d be selling Mané before Salah.

We have been so lucky over the last few seasons regarding injuries to the front 3 because Origi, Minamino etc were not quality back-up who could adequately fill in for more than just a few games. A top squad, playing a 4-3-3 formation needs at least 4 quality players for those 3 positions. I am very happy with Mané, Salah, Firmino and Jota as our options but, as mentioned previously, three of those are nearing 30 and we cannot possibly hope that they will continue to stay fit and healthy all season. I didn't see the Jota signing as a possible long term replacement for one of the front three, I just saw it as getting our forward quota back to full strength. Now we need to strengthen the front 4 options again by lowering the average age a bit. Maybe we can interest Juvé in a straight swap Dybala (who always seems out of favour there for some reason) for Firmino - that would be a very good short term solution.

 

[Fallon]

According to L'Equipe PSG are speaking with Salah's agent. I think he will leave this summer. He's one of my favourite all time reds but sentimentality aside, if we could get £100m for a 29 year old (he will be 29 in a few weeks) we would be mad not to take it.

This is a kind of old school way of thinking IMO. I trust the investment team for the most part, so you can certainly argue we'd be able to affect a better return for the £100m, but reallistically hitting upon the next Salah (or two) for that money is a very big ask. He is the kind of athlete who looks like he'll be as good in 3 years, and we'd still get £30-50m depending on contract. Personally I think we'd be mad not to keep a golden boot challenger for the sake of £100m. He fires us to another European Cup, there's the £100m (more in coming seasons).

Now if someone offered £100m for this season's Mane....