Gerrards in trouble
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Is this what the case is based on or do you reckon there is footage that won't be released till after the trial.
Apparantly the cctv footage does show gerrard laying into him. I don't know what that link shows, but i'll try and find out more from my mate who saw it today
I think the prosecution will need a bit more than that
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Im not clicking that link after last time!
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What happend?
Im not clicking that link after last time!
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What happend?
They were way over the top. I'm only surprised the barrister didn't produce a watch and start swaying it from side to side as he pointed out the baby that Gerrard ate and the dog he stamped on as he emptied the till and goosed the waitress. Even that absurd claim that Gerrard would've expected to have met only friendly fans wherever he went in the city. Yeah, sure. Never any bitter bluenoses around at night in these clubs, eh? I doubt any trip out is entirely free from the odd encounter with this kind of twit.
That is the smoking gun then? A grainy, inconclusive video tape that shows someone looking quite jovial moments before, getting into a nothing argument, perhaps even getting hit first, and then getting held back seconds later?
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Is this what the case is based on or do you reckon there is footage that won't be released till after the trial.
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Well if it is he may well get off, & it explains the no guilty plea, cos it doesnt show who hit him. You assume it's Stevie, but that means nothing cos it's not proof.
Is this what the case is based on or do you reckon there is footage that won't be released till after the trial.
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Well if it is he may well get off, & it explains the no guilty plea, cos it doesnt show who hit him. You assume it's Stevie, but that means nothing cos it's not proof.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=34836.msg909842#msg909842 date=1248199711]
Well the identification evidence is pretty shit.
And it looks to me that the guy in blue, which i presume is Gerrard, gets hit first.
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That's what I thought, but I guess Stevie is meant to be the bloke squaring up to him, who then gets in a couple of digs after his mate elbows him in the face.
Pretty inconclusive stuff though, and if that second guy is Gerrard, it well doesn't look like him, he looks too short
Well the identification evidence is pretty shit.
And it looks to me that the guy in blue, which i presume is Gerrard, gets hit first.
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That's what I thought, but I guess Stevie is meant to be the bloke squaring up to him, who then gets in a couple of digs after his mate elbows him in the face.
Pretty inconclusive stuff though, and if that second guy is Gerrard, it well doesn't look like him, he looks too short
About 58 seconds in, Gerrard is talking to the barman after cleaning his hands.
He is clearly telling the guy he is going to punch someone, look at his arm movements...its DEFINATELY a punching action.
That video is shit, there has to be more than that..cant see anything.
He is clearly telling the guy he is going to punch someone, look at his arm movements...its DEFINATELY a punching action.
That video is shit, there has to be more than that..cant see anything.
Wow, that was some weak evidence. So, if the prosecution have based their case around this, then they really have a nothing case.
To me it looks like Gerrard gets hit first, and then there's a brawl where you can't see who hits who.
I can defo understand the not guilty plea.
To me it looks like Gerrard gets hit first, and then there's a brawl where you can't see who hits who.
I can defo understand the not guilty plea.
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hahahah. Poor the Rosco.
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hahahah. Poor the Rosco.
[quote author=Redshrek link=topic=34836.msg909810#msg909810 date=1248193975]
Here is the CCTV footage. Shows nothing really other than confirms gerrad does have an obssesion of washing his hands. It also shows gerrad being held back but nothing else.
www.infoslash.net
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I feel sorry for the jury of they have to sit through that
Here is the CCTV footage. Shows nothing really other than confirms gerrad does have an obssesion of washing his hands. It also shows gerrad being held back but nothing else.
www.infoslash.net
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I feel sorry for the jury of they have to sit through that
Personally I hope thats the extent of the footage they have.
However, when I heard they had released CCTV footage I was suspicious based on the duty/obligation towards the victim. Think about it, can they really show a bunch of lads in clear vision giving a man digs and elbows. Personally, if I got smacked around in a bar I would not want it on the internet - for my own self esteem but also the distress it could cause older parents and your kids.
Its for that reason that I am suspicious.
However, when I heard they had released CCTV footage I was suspicious based on the duty/obligation towards the victim. Think about it, can they really show a bunch of lads in clear vision giving a man digs and elbows. Personally, if I got smacked around in a bar I would not want it on the internet - for my own self esteem but also the distress it could cause older parents and your kids.
Its for that reason that I am suspicious.
The lads after a bit of money. Thats it. It's all bollocks and Gerrards been played. Fuck all to worry about. Nob'ead manc cunt. Forget abaa it.
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all other defendents have pleaded guilty, only Gerrard pleaded not guilty, they'll take all the flak & a nice backhander and Gerrard will get off scot free.
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Unless of course he did twat him and there is CCTV that shows it
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The cctv of him being elbowed first?
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all other defendents have pleaded guilty, only Gerrard pleaded not guilty, they'll take all the flak & a nice backhander and Gerrard will get off scot free.
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Unless of course he did twat him and there is CCTV that shows it
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The cctv of him being elbowed first?
no previous, good character references, no serious harm to victim, no aggravating features (i.e. racism) - if worse comes to worse and he's guilty thr sentence should be ok.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/8162068.stm?ls
Slightly better footage.
Does seem to get in a few shots, does our Stevie. Not very good.
Slightly better footage.
Does seem to get in a few shots, does our Stevie. Not very good.
I'd be much more interested to hear the conversation with the barman:
GERRARD: Okay, la, can I just dry me hands?
BARMAN: You've not been washing them AGAIN?
GERRARD: Well, I touched a couple of people. They were slightly dirty.
BARMAN: Okay, but it's not natural, you know, lad.
GERRARD: [Starts drying them] I just...want them...nice and...clean.
BARMAN: That's probably enough, son.
GERRARD: Clean...mmmm...must be clean...
BARMAN: Look, lad, you'll wear your hands out at this rate!
GERRARD: Mmmm, perfectly clean...no germs...clean...
BARMAN: Okay, you're beginning to scare me now.
GERRARD: Just a bit more...a bit more...just a bit more...wipe all the dirt away...
BARMAN: I'm sure they're spotless now, Stevie. Really, lad, leave it.
GERRARD: Just...a...tiny...bit...left...mmmm...DONE! Thanks, la! See ya!
BARMAN: That's okay, Ste- OI! You've just dumped a bloody dirty towel down here! Bastard!
GERRARD: Okay, la, can I just dry me hands?
BARMAN: You've not been washing them AGAIN?
GERRARD: Well, I touched a couple of people. They were slightly dirty.
BARMAN: Okay, but it's not natural, you know, lad.
GERRARD: [Starts drying them] I just...want them...nice and...clean.
BARMAN: That's probably enough, son.
GERRARD: Clean...mmmm...must be clean...
BARMAN: Look, lad, you'll wear your hands out at this rate!
GERRARD: Mmmm, perfectly clean...no germs...clean...
BARMAN: Okay, you're beginning to scare me now.
GERRARD: Just a bit more...a bit more...just a bit more...wipe all the dirt away...
BARMAN: I'm sure they're spotless now, Stevie. Really, lad, leave it.
GERRARD: Just...a...tiny...bit...left...mmmm...DONE! Thanks, la! See ya!
BARMAN: That's okay, Ste- OI! You've just dumped a bloody dirty towel down here! Bastard!
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