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Saying it in this thread is the problem. It strongly suggests the view that victims of prejudice "get what's coming to them".

Does it? just looked like a general comment that religion is a complete nonsense, think you might of looked a bit to deeply into it, RZs reply says as much.
 
It's odd that people are bringing the 'religion sucks' thing into it and not the 'it's a gypsy thing', 'it's a black skin color thing' or 'it's a gay thing' ... you know, the other groups that the siel heil twats tried to eliminate during world war II ...
 
It's odd that people are bringing the 'religion sucks' thing into it and not the 'it's a gypsy thing', 'it's a black skin color thing' or 'it's a gay thing' ... you know, the other groups that the siel heil twats tried to eliminate during world war II ...

The gypsy/black/gay things are all real and observable things. If you insult someone for being black, that shit is real.

Religion is an imaginary fairytale. Insulting someone based on religion is no different to insulting someone for being a Harry Potter fan. If you choose to take offence on behalf of Harry Potter, it's almost a joke isn't it?

Oh, Harry Potter is a fucking annoying little cunt.
 
Hey you guys, I know it mightn't be cool to notice this shit, but Anelka is actually a black person.
 
The gypsy/black/gay things are all real and observable things. If you insult someone for being black, that shit is real.

Religion is an imaginary fairytale. Insulting someone based on religion is no different to insulting someone for being a Harry Potter fan. If you choose to take offence on behalf of Harry Potter, it's almost a joke isn't it?

Oh, Harry Potter is a fucking annoying little cunt.

The quenelle is a reverse sieg heil ... it was started by a man who openly claims the holocaust didn't really happen ... in that event, the groups i listed were targeted and annihilated ... yet the 'religion' is what people focus on ... oh, religion sucks as it didn't involve the gypsies, blacks or gays ... great.
 
Also, during the war with people out to eliminate you and your family, I'm sure the last thing you'd give a shit about is the offence it caused to your religion. And if half a century later, after I had suffered and died, if some fortunate to be alive descendant of mine came along and felt offended by an idiot like Anelka... that'd piss me the fuck off.

It'd just comes across as that person being more concerned by the fact that they are offended, rather than the fact that I had fucking died.
 
The blacks and gays and gypsies didn't go get their own state or reparations either. People think holocaust they think jews.
 
Also, during the war with people out to eliminate you and your family, I'm sure the last thing you'd give a shit about is the offence it caused to your religion. And if half a century later, after I had suffered and died, if some fortunate to be alive descendant of mine came along and felt offended by an idiot like Anelka... that'd piss me the fuck off.

It'd just comes across as that person being more concerned by the fact that they are offended, rather than the fact that I had fucking died.

You mean ignore the same hatred that happened in the early 1930s that allowed what happened in the 1940s to happen with bar anyone caring about it? you know what, you go salute with Nico. You're as thick as him.
 
The blacks and gays and gypsies didn't go get their own state or reparations either. People think holocaust they think jews.

The Jews didn't get their own state because of the Holocaust. It was well in motion beforehand, it just quickened the process up tremendously due to the world feeling guilty that they ignored the shit Germany was doing and didn't want to do anything about it.
 
The quenelle is a reverse sieg heil ... it was started by a man who openly claims the holocaust didn't really happen ... in that event, the groups i listed were targeted and annihilated ... yet the 'religion' is what people focus on ... oh, religion sucks as it didn't involve the gypsies, blacks or gays ... great.

Oh I see your point now. So let's focus on the black people who died. I still can't get my head around how a black person can today feel offended. He didn't die, it's like he'd be trying to worm his way into the suffering in some way. The comedian is a dick and should be jailed or fined, as should Anelka. Bringing that about is a good thing, and for me a funny thing to watch. But to say their actions or jokes caused you to be offended, I think causes even more offence to the people who did die.
 
Oh I see your point now. So let's focus on the black people who died. I still can't get my head around how a black person can today feel offended. He didn't die, it's like he'd be trying to worm his way into the suffering in some way. The comedian is a dick and should be jailed or fined, as should Anelka. Bringing that about is a good thing, and for me a funny thing to watch. But to say their actions or jokes caused you to be offended, I think causes even more offence to the people who did die.

I am not black (well, I am below the belt but that doesn't count for skin color), so I don't know what would offend them or what wouldn't. I'd be interested to hear Henry's take on it based on his family's history ....

The comedian shouldn't be jailed. It's just one of the major issues facing Western Society and 'freedom of speech.' When is the slope too slippery? Is he inciting against anyone? I don't think so but he's encouraging something that will lead to violence one way or another (it did last week, but it was the 6 Jewish kids who were arrested for beating the shit out of people doing the signs).
 
Well either way I get that anti-zionism is as rational and valid a stance as any other, especially if you're a dickhead muslim convert and pissed off about the whole Israel thang. But it takes a special kind of dickhead to get into all that shit on live TV.
 
You mean ignore the same hatred that happened in the early 1930s that allowed what happened in the 1940s to happen with bar anyone caring about it? you know what, you go salute with Nico. You're as thick as him.

I didn't say ignore it. Justice should be served, that comedian seems to have been fined for defamation more times than Anelka has transferred clubs. That's good, and I'm hoping he continues so that more justice can be served. He holds those views, the more times he is punished for it the better. You would have him shut up? Then what, he can hold those views unpunished.

And the reason you want him to shut up is because it offends people? I don't get that. It's an insult to the victims of the Holocaust.
 
Well either way get that anti-zionism is as rational and valid a stance as any other, especially if you're a dickhead muslim convert and pissed off about the whole Israel thang. But it takes a special kind of dickhead to get into all that shit on live TV.

I have no problem with people being anti-Zionists as long as it's not masking something more sinister. Just in case you think that's what it pisses me off ... It pisses me off that this sign is the creation of an anti-semitic holocaust denying twat.
 
You would have him shut up? Then what, he can hold those views unpunished.

And the reason you want him to shut up is because it offends people? I don't get that. It's an insult to the victims of the Holocaust.

Well - some countries do shut you up (Austria, Germany etc). I sit on the fence on that - I see the benefit, I see the problems with it.

There's no way to stop this stuff anyways ... The internet is impossible to really monitor and that's where this stuff spreads like wildfire.
 
Well I'm with you on the freedom of speech thing and Dantes on the offence taken thing.

It's best to ignore fools.
 
Well I'm with you on the freedom of speech thing and Dantes on the offence taken thing.

It's best to ignore fools.

hateful fools are like bacteria and evolution mate ... you ignore them for too long, and you have a fucking monster. it's a problem for us semi-intelligent (me) and intelligent life form ...
 
LTW is being perfectly reasonable here. This comedian is a racist prick.

Anelka is free to express his views, but the Premier League won't allow him to damage the brand. In this way it is similar to any other corporate environment, where there is zero tolerance for non-PC behaviour. But hey, he can always quit his insanely lucrative job and become a full time anti-Semite.
 
Free speech is constrained by defamation law, public order laws, discrimination, and so on. Most people are too dim to properly understand the meaning of those laws so have no idea about the limits to their free speech. UK Justice is awesome in that regard, it's like a game of Russian Roulette with poor hapless people on Twitter getting picked off like flies.
 
Free speech is constrained by defamation law, public order laws, discrimination, and so on. Most people are too dim to properly understand the meaning of those laws so have no idea about the limits to their free speech. UK Justice is awesome in that regard, it's like a game of Russian Roulette with poor hapless people on Twitter getting picked off like flies.


The question is always where on the slope to you remove freedom of speech.

If I started going on about 'Kill all Jews' or 'Kill all Blacks' - would it be pointless to bother with me? I have no power, no followers, nothing. But if say this comedian starts taking his hatred to the next level, do you stop him from talking? Who knows ...
 
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