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phraraoaorar. Jesus Christ...........an average footballer with an above average work-rate and an infectious enthusiasm, which probably makes him better than that average footballer.
Yes he's nice to have, and he's nice to cuddle up to. People have short memories, much of last season he was dire, it's a good thing there are a few realists around here to save you plunging too deeply into an irreversible Dirk-fest.
If this is everyones pinnacle then we are fucking easily pleased, and if it was accepted by people who actually matter, probably are really doomed to mediocrity.
Great to have around the place, great team player, and I don't dismiss the effect of him pledging his troth at all, I think the rest of the players also think the world of him, but we can't afford that as a luxury.
We need players that are effective technically and make the difference regularly with the ball, hard work and enthusiasm are not in themselves enough to justify a permanent place in the side.
If we had Turan on the left, Maxi on the right and a half decent forward to help Torres , where would that leave Dirk?
Look chaps, sad as it may seem - nice guys don't always win, there is far too much sentiment involved in peoples thinking on this.
Dirk is a great lad , would die for the cause and is a great squad player, but, if we have any ambition of fighting our way back he should not be an an automatic choice
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Old chum, I really don't know who you think you're answering here. I haven't noticed (m)any people saying he should be an automatic choice, still less that he's "everyone's pinnacle". We're just bigging up the things Deadly CAN offer, as you yourself set out in your own post.
Was the beer off down the local last night or something?
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Not at all JJ , it was a very nice draught Peroni at Formby Hall Golf Club, on a charity night for Isaac's House
http://isaacshouse.org/ ...........if anyone wants to get involved or contribute.
In fact reading back on it considering the time of day and the volumes of Peroni, it still looks relatively coherent
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Automatic choice? I think there are a number op people suggesting, or at least alluding to just that
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I thought the same thing when I stayed at Formby Hall earlier in the year, nice place - even more enjoyable was the look of total perplexion on my dads face when I explained the set up to him, given that he used to ride his bike there as a kid ("when I were a lad all this were fields" moment).
Re Kuyt - as is the way with these things, I think we probabably oscillate between two extremes with Dirk, neither of which are accurate; at best he's no world beater, at worst he's certainly a decent footballer.