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AND what acctington stanley wage bill looks like
They'll get a 50% share of the gate, after coats. That used to work out at about 47% of the total seat revenue (they don't get a share of hospitality profits, just the element of hospitality tickets that relates to the cost of the seat).
No idea what the ticket prices are for this game but let's say that after deducting VAT and allowing for concessions it's £30 each. So the gate share is £30 x 60,000 x 47% = £846,000.
There used to be a TV fee of about £1 million per club as well. Not sure whether that still applies or is still the going rate but if it is the. you're looking at nearly £2m all in.
 
They'll get a 50% share of the gate, after coats. That used to work out at about 47% of the total seat revenue (they don't get a share of hospitality profits, just the element of hospitality tickets that relates to the cost of the seat).
No idea what the ticket prices are for this game but let's say that after deducting VAT and allowing for concessions it's £30 each. So the gate share is £30 x 60,000 x 47% = £846,000.
There used to be a TV fee of about £1 million per club as well. Not sure whether that still applies or is still the going rate but if it is the. you're looking at nearly £2m all in.
That's a lot of money for a league 2 team
 
That's a lot of money for a league 2 team
They only file abbreviated accounts so I couldn't see their income levels, but they lost £785k in 2023. So basically this game could cover more than two year's worth of operating deficits, assuming that's a normal level for them.
It's genuinely why lower league clubs need the cup. Also why, in my opinion, the third round should be seeded. As much as it'll be nice to see either United or Arsenal go out tomorrow, there's two lower league clubs that could be breathing icy more easily had they been drawn away to
either of those two.
 
They'll get a 50% share of the gate, after coats. That used to work out at about 47% of the total seat revenue (they don't get a share of hospitality profits, just the element of hospitality tickets that relates to the cost of the seat).
No idea what the ticket prices are for this game but let's say that after deducting VAT and allowing for concessions it's £30 each. So the gate share is £30 x 60,000 x 47% = £846,000.
There used to be a TV fee of about £1 million per club as well. Not sure whether that still applies or is still the going rate but if it is the. you're looking at nearly £2m all in.
This is why it was senseless to have Villa West Ham on the telly. Wycombe need the cash more.
 
What's the share of gate about, is that an FA Cup thing? Not complaining like, just wondering. Could probably argue no PL team should take any gate unless they're playing another PL team.
 
What's the share of gate about, is that an FA Cup thing? Not complaining like, just wondering. Could probably argue no PL team should take any gate unless they're playing another PL team.
It's a cup thing, same in the League Cup too. It can be a godsend for a smaller club, even if they get drawn at home as often those clubs don't sell out or can only sell tickets much cheaper for their normal games.
As I said above, I would seed the draw in the third round to give the lower league clubs the chance of a big fixture and a big payday. It would be worth more to them than playing a middling team in the 4th round and also increases the chance of those shocks that the telly people love so much.
The other thing that is different in the cup is that the away fans get up to 25% of the tickets (it'll only be lower if they can't sell 25%), when it's only usually 3,000 for a PL game.
 
What's the share of gate about, is that an FA Cup thing? Not complaining like, just wondering. Could probably argue no PL team should take any gate unless they're playing another PL team.

So based on the figures below and we extrapolate, it would work out to be £3.6m per game.


 
So based on the figures below and we extrapolate, it would work out to be £3.6m per game.


Our matchday figures will include hospitality revenue, as well as all the ancillary stuff like programme sales, catering and retail, but the number looks about right. It may be a little on the low side if it doesn't include a full season's worth of the extra revenue from the Annie Road.
Bear in mind though that this is a revenue figure, so after you've deducted all of the related costs (stewarding, security, policing, costs of sale for catering / retail), you're probably look more like £2-2.5m net contribution from an average game, and cup games will make less than league due to reduced ticket pricing.
 
Our matchday figures will include hospitality revenue, as well as all the ancillary stuff like programme sales, catering and retail, but the number looks about right. It may be a little on the low side if it doesn't include a full season's worth of the extra revenue from the Annie Road.
Bear in mind though that this is a revenue figure, so after you've deducted all of the related costs (stewarding, security, policing, costs of sale for catering / retail), you're probably look more like £2-2.5m net contribution from an average game, and cup games will make less than league due to reduced ticket pricing.
Accrington Stanley made over £10m on the last filed accounts. Their salary is £1.5m so where is the rest of the money going?
 
Accrington Stanley made over £10m on the last filed accounts. Their salary is £1.5m so where is the rest of the money going?
Their last set of accounts disclose a reduction in their reserves of £796k (equals loss for the year) and they didn't disclose a profit and loss account so there is no indication what their revenue is nor what they spent their money on.
 
Little bit of analysis for you.
I reckon our current squad has a total cost of around £750m. Chelsea's 10 most expensive players probably cost more than that between them.
How many of these boys get into our first XI?

Moises Caicedo
Enzo Fernandez
Wesley Fofana
Kepa Arrizabalaga
Mikhaylo Mudryk
Romeu Lavia
Marc Cucurella
Christopher Nkunku
Raheem Sterling
Pedro Neto

Whoever is running transfers at Chelsea is stealing a living.
 
Little bit of analysis for you.
I reckon our current squad has a total cost of around £750m. Chelsea's 10 most expensive players probably cost more than that between them.
How many of these boys get into our first XI?

Moises Caicedo
Enzo Fernandez
Wesley Fofana
Kepa Arrizabalaga
Mikhaylo Mudryk
Romeu Lavia
Marc Cucurella
Christopher Nkunku
Raheem Sterling
Pedro Neto

Whoever is running transfers at Chelsea is stealing a living.

Caicedo would be in the mix. No one else really.
 
Little bit of analysis for you.
I reckon our current squad has a total cost of around £750m. Chelsea's 10 most expensive players probably cost more than that between them.
How many of these boys get into our first XI?

Moises Caicedo
Enzo Fernandez
Wesley Fofana
Kepa Arrizabalaga
Mikhaylo Mudryk
Romeu Lavia
Marc Cucurella
Christopher Nkunku
Raheem Sterling
Pedro Neto

Whoever is running transfers at Chelsea is stealing a living.
Caicedo maybe but he’s a big red card risk.

More to the point, I thought the idea was to get a shed load of potential at reasonably low (relatively) wages on super long term contracts so that in 2-3 years time any penalties are spent and they have a team of over performers who’s overall cost is much lower than the outlay
 
Caicedo maybe but he’s a big red card risk.

More to the point, I thought the idea was to get a shed load of potential at reasonably low (relatively) wages on super long term contracts so that in 2-3 years time any penalties are spent and they have a team of over performers who’s overall cost is much lower than the outlay
Every time I see Caicedo play I feel like I'm watching someone whose primary talent is to be quick enough to catch opposition players and kick them up the arse without getting sent off for it (possibly because he has an undeserved reputation as being more of a footballer than he actually is). I wanted him last summer, I'm glad we didn't get him now.
And on the point of the wider project, what this list highlights is the downside risk of their project. I'm sure all of these guys will be on decent wages-you just can't buy a player for that kind of money without paying him good money. There are some big under-performers in there, some crocks and a player who might be about to get a 2+ year ban for doping. And they're mostly on 7-year contracts.
Incidentally, assuming Mudryk's control sample tests positive, they'll be in their rights not to pay him, but if they bin him off they're taking a £50m write-off. Even if they don't, they'll probably still have a massive financial hit.
There's another tier below this top 10 where they have some good players (e.g. Palmer, who is exceptional, Madueke who is more than decent, Gusto and Jackson who is still a bit raw but might make it). Some of those guys are probably out-performing their wage levels, but Palmer has already had a new contract. That's the folly of the scheme. If a player is out-performing his wage bracket, you will have to give him a new deal on better wages or he'll be off-ski. The idea that he will sit tight on low money under a 7-year deal because he has to is for the birds. By contrast, a player who turns to shit is going to happily sit there and take the money until his deal runs down, or else you'll have to pay him off to move on.
In short, their genius plan, if that is really what the plan is, doesn't work.
 
They should have kept the replays but with the option for both clubs to agree in advance that the game would/wouldn't go to a replay.

So in this case, assuming Spurs would want extra time and Tamworth the replay. Spurs would need to settle the disagreement with X £M to compensate Tamworth.

It's not like the scenario occurs too often.
 
The thing is with ET, Tamworth will have a better chance of going through (albeit slim) than they would the possiblity or a replay.

So whilst they would've cherished a replay back in London, it isn't all upsides.
 
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