Where does that 22m come from ? I, like most, though it was 29m. Euros perhaps ?
Firmino
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I saw on F365 that apparently Tyler said it was "poignant" that 2 French players made the mistake for the OG after last week
He really is a detestable, cretinous cunt
I dunno....may behe meant it like this....the players made the mistake because they were shaken by events at home.....
Sometimes we are too quick to jump on every word that is said. Like when we were hanging on to every word Rodgers said in press over the last few months......
Sometimes we are too quick to jump on every word that is said. Like when we were hanging on to every word Rodgers said in press over the last few months......
Poignancy is the wrong word. "understandably" I'd get, but not that. As a man whose job is meant to be finding the right words for the right situation, he's fucking shambolic.
He's a waffling, insensitive twat.
Yeah...i would agree with that. He deserves to be hauled up by his employers for being shit in his job....no questions there.
We were inside their area - you'd think even an idiot would realise that that's a key moment - and what's Tyler talking about? That's right - England. Firmino takes the ball down, flicks it over his head, once, twice, and ghosts past a defender, and Tyler ignores it because he's determined to finish his latest irrelevant anecdote. The guy is shockingly awful these days. Is there no one in the production team who will tell him, 'Look, keep your waffle for when the ball's out of play!'??
Yeah he didnt even mention it did he.
But then Sky totally missed a break from Coutinho when he slid Firmino in and he had to give it his high pitched 'Hes through agaAaaaaaaain'
Ive stopped watching any football except us nowadays, does he still crowbar Fergie in to every other conversation.
They probably have sad dogs now.
Andy Gray is the best Sky have ever had.
Admittedly the competition isn't great, but I don't get the hate for him. He's the last commentator or pundit they've had who tells you about tactics & formations whilst the match is being played, & the last to acknowledge that viewers can't see the whole pitch & makes an effort to describe what you can see.
For me that's all I need from a commentator, I don't need them to tell me what type of wine a manager drinks post match, a funny story about an ex player, or how many international caps someone has, & I certainly don't need the incessant dull repetition of who is passing to who, cos, weirdly enough, I can fucking see that cos there's 30 odd ruddy great HD cameras pointed at it beaming pictures via satellite to my ruddy great HD screen, you fucking tool.
I need them to tell me that Klopp is telling the defence to push up higher, or that Milner is running his bollocks off, off the ball to keep their players from getting settled, Lucas is stuck to their AM like glue, that we're starting our press higher this half, etc etc. All things you can't see, or easily realise, when watching on TV, & all things that rarely, if ever, get a mention anymore.
Yeah agree with almost all of that.
Neville was actually quite decent again last night but he's painfully old fashioned at times.
Gray was a staple for years when football at Sky was probably at it's peak with regards to coverage and analysis.
Now it's just far too cringey.
From Jamie 's painted on trousers to Carra and Gary's hideous attempts at 'banter' it's becoming unbearable.
Well I think he was a major cause of the decline in the likes of Tyler, because Sky fed his ego so much he pretty much took over the commentary. When he was just chipping in with the odd insight, I agree he was very good, but gradually he started talking all the way through, so that by the end of his time on Sky they'd be chatting about everything from where they were planning to eat after the game to what Andy had done on his holidays - all while the action was happening on the pitch. The irony now is that Neville seems happy to just say something every now and again, but Tyler is so needy he keeps dragging him back into a conversation.
Absolutely agree. Sky built Keys and Gray up to the point where the previous equilibrium of commentary - one lead commentator and a pundit to chip in with analysis every now and again - flipped to the point where the commentator had become the supporting act, and the pundit was trying constantly to come up with a great soundbite that would get replayed constantly on youtube/promo montages. Gray wasn't particularly insightful, especially when you take into account some of the punditry that used to be on Radio 5 (pre 5-live), but compared to most of the Sky personnel Gray was the first one who fed into the celebrity side of things and so stood out.
Now it's got to the point where the co-commentator/pundit is the star of the show, and the commentator is there just to support them, which is why they often come up with stupid stuff to try and get noticed.
Reminds me of Suarez in year 1. His chances to conversion ratio was awful. And, he biggest contribution was winning the ball back and making a killer pass in the box (eg Man U Kuyt hat-trick). It wasn't until the 3rd year that he could hardly miss (unless we were playing Norwich, who seemed to love from day 1).
All Firmino needs is his own Norwich to get his confidence up and he'll be off to the races.
Remember when Andy Gray was nearly the Everton manager but just couldn't go through with it?
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football-gray-shocks-everton-by-rejecting-job-1257731.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football-gray-shocks-everton-by-rejecting-job-1257731.html
"And here's another player that rarely ever plays 90 minutes" - About Lallana as he was subbed IN the 90th minute.
It's bad times when you're hoping Gary Neville calls him out on his verbal bullshit during a match.
I picked up on that too, it was fucking ridiculous.
There is no chance, none, that Firmino will get anywhere near the goal return, or playing level of Suarez.
I think we all said that about Suarez in comparison to Torres.. To say no chance is probably a bit over the mark tbh..
Time will tell, but the early signs are promising, and the lad is still relatively young..
Early signs that Firmino will be a good signing are certainly promising. Early signs that he'll prove to be on Suarez' level, though? Nowhere near. I wouldn't go as far as to say it'll never happen, but I'll be amazed if it does. At his best Suarez was more a force of nature than a footballer.
I understand the comparison. His performance reminded me of Suarez in his first year. Could he go onto match him? Unlikely but I wouldn't rule anything out at this stage. We have a habit of developing world class strikers and he'll only get better. After being very sceptical since be arrive I'm now convinced he's got some serious quality about him. That pass to Countino is one of the best assists of the year.
And also a striker
Redknapp was calling him firminio in the post match analysis, the fucking idiot. What the fuck is wrong with everyone?
They're all doing it just to annoy you.
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