Firmino

[manwithnoname]

I do. We're gonna win the league.

I'm more confident now than I was under Rodgers, because Klopp's a far better manager and has actually done it, but I thought the same about Benitez after his glorious Valencia tenure. I don't think anyone can win the league under FSG.

 

[Woland]

A bit of composure against Chelsea 18 months ago and we'd have won it then. It's far from impossible. We've got a great chance right now.

One thing I would sort out is Coutinho's contract. He signed last year for 70k a week. He must be off his fucking head. If anyone came sniffing it would be for him. I think Phil Jones signed for 120k a week at around the same time. Makes no sense, he needs to be on top dollar, he needs a new contract putting to him before the offers come in, not after, so at least there's some leverage, at least he can't say he didn't feel loved and all that shit.

 

[Frogfish]

Yeah, but I suppose there will always be a threat if a team like Barca, Real or Bayern want your players. There are some clubs and managers that, for most players, are hard to resist, for various reasons.

Real and Barca are - and have been for some time - considered the pinnacle and the ultimate "I've ARRIVED IN THE BIG TIME!" destination. We've seen plenty of our top talent go that way: Owen, Macca, Suarez, Masher, Alonso. And lots of other big clubs have also seen that migration.

But that's understandable and unavoidable. What really gets me agitated is the transfer (nearly or otherwise) of our top talent to clubs that aren't at that level, but are better than us. Especially domestically.

Sterling to City, Torres to Chelsea, Gerrard to Chelsea, Suarez to Arsenal. Now, the last two didn't happen - but very nearly did - and that sums up our standing in the game these days more than anything: the very best players do not see us as a club at which they can achieve all of their goals; the trophies, the glory, the fame, the money.

We'll have to get used to it, because under FSG that isn't going to change, even with Klopp.

It might.

 

[Frogfish]

It's the trophies bit that is important. Nobody believes we can win one, largely based on the fact that we haven't won anything worthwhile in a decade and have challenged for the title exactly twice in 15 years.

More than likely it's got SFA to do with winning trophies, that's a handy excuse, and far more likely to do with the extra $$$. If we paid them (a lot) more then it would make leaving a far tougher decision. In Suarez's case though I believe his wife's family had a major influence on his move, it was always going to happen sooner or later.

 

[manwithnoname]

More than likely it's got SFA to do with winning trophies, that's a handy excuse, and far more likely to do with the extra $$$. If we paid them (a lot) more then it would make leaving a far tougher decision. In Suarez's case though I believe his wife's family had a major influence on his move, it was always going to happen sooner or later.

Suarez was desperate to leave anyway, but no player is going to turn down Barcelona, it was a dream move for him in every respect.

But it's too easy to say Sterling left for money only. It was a factor, of course, but only one factor.

 

[localny]

I was listening on the radio as I had other things to do that day, and the commentator was totally stumped for what to say. He couldn't make out what Suarez had actually done, nor could he figure out how it was even possible.

I still make the King our greatest ever player, for a whole variety of reasons, but if the question were to be "Who's the most talented footballer you've ever seen play for LFC?" I'd vote for Suarez now. There were times when the only response I could make to what he did with the ball was to LOL.

I've played all my life, and I'll never understand how someone gets that good in tight spaces, like the ball is essentially part of their body. They don't teach that kind of skill in Ireland and England in the '70's that's for sure. It's a thing of beauty.

 

[Modo]

I've played all my life, and I'll never understand how someone gets that good in tight spaces, like the ball is essentially part of their body. They don't teach that kind of skill in Ireland and England in the '70's that's for sure. It's a thing of beauty.

indoor football.

 

[moron]

I'm more confident now than I was under Rodgers, because Klopp's a far better manager and has actually done it, but I thought the same about Benitez after his glorious Valencia tenure. I don't think anyone can win the league under FSG.

I think Klopp can do it. I had great belief in Rafa when it came to European games and that level of belief i have in Klopp when we play in the PL. He is calm and cool and to be honest i think he gives us fans more faith in our team than we had before. You get the feeling that both rafa and rodgers kind of stressed the players out making them feel constrained but with klopp i get the opposite feeling and vibes from the players. They are following a plan and playing for him and us and its transparent.

 

[manwithnoname]

I think Klopp can do it. I had great belief in Rafa when it came to European games and that level of belief i have in Klopp when we play in the PL. He is calm and cool and to be honest i think he gives us fans more faith in our team than we had before. You get the feeling that both rafa and rodgers kind of stressed the players out making them feel constrained but with klopp i get the opposite feeling and vibes from the players. They are following a plan and playing for him and us and its transparent.

Calm and cool? He jumps about all over the place, shouting, grimacing and gesticulating, and is constantly screaming encouragement and quite often opprobrium at his players, the ref and anyone else nearby.

What are you talking about?

He certainly has huge belief and charisma, and has a very clear idea of how he wants us to play, but he's the opposite of calm and cool.

 

[Athens]

indoor football.

With one of those tiny footballs.

 

[Dreambeliever]

Yeah, but I suppose there will always be a threat if a team like Barca, Real or Bayern want your players. There are some clubs and managers that, for most players, are hard to resist, for various reasons.

Real and Barca are - and have been for some time - considered the pinnacle and the ultimate "I've ARRIVED IN THE BIG TIME!" destination. We've seen plenty of our top talent go that way: Owen, Macca, Suarez, Masher, Alonso. And lots of other big clubs have also seen that migration.

But that's understandable and unavoidable. What really gets me agitated is the transfer (nearly or otherwise) of our top talent to clubs that aren't at that level, but are better than us. Especially domestically.

Sterling to City, Torres to Chelsea, Gerrard to Chelsea, Suarez to Arsenal. Now, the last two didn't happen - but very nearly did - and that sums up our standing in the game these days more than anything: the very best players do not see us as a club at which they can achieve all of their goals; the trophies, the glory, the fame, the money.

We'll have to get used to it, because under FSG that isn't going to change, even with Klopp.

It will change if we start winning the big trophies.

 

[Red Mullet]

Calm and cool? He jumps about all over the place, shouting, grimacing and gesticulating, and is constantly screaming encouragement and quite often opprobrium at his players, the ref and anyone else nearby.

What are you talking about?

He certainly has huge belief and charisma, and has a very clear idea of how he wants us to play, but he's the opposite of calm and cool.

Yep, he is far from calm and cool. He's highly highly demanding and when he sees the players are showing what he wants he gives you a huge grin and massive bear hug. It's a very effective form of leadership.

 

[Bradley]

With one of those tiny footballs.

Not a tiny football, an orange or a tinfoilboil.

 

[Athens]

Not a tiny football, an orange or a tinfoilboil.

That's a real mark of skill, being able to play with a tinfoilboil without crushing it.

 

[localny]

He's getting a rest today at least.

 

[rurikbird]

He's getting a rest today at least.

I think he was sleeping the whole time on the bench.