I knew Rushy and Fowler were converts... doesn't stop em being considered red through and through does it?
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I knew Rushy and Fowler were converts... doesn't stop em being considered red through and through does it?
I'd agree that Sturridge does need to be in the mix, but I'm not sure goals per minute is the right metric. I think we all agree that Suarez isn't the same level of finisher, he just manages to get into good positions more often due to his insane ability on the ball.
I think we need Binny to dig out stats on 1 on 1's solely. I reckon Fowler would come out on top for that.
I think we need Binny to dig out stats on 1 on 1's solely. I reckon Fowler would come out on top for that.
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Yeah, I was actually looking for shot conversion ratios but gave up pretty quickly.
I think Owen is in with a strong shout if we're just talking one on ones Big Chances Converted which is probably the right measure to look at. I know Sturridge is ahead of Messi and Ronaldo in this category, but not sure how other LFC strikers stack up.
IMO this has to be the player who, when he got the ball near goal, you didn't think would score - you knew. That gives Rushie the title for me.
Think Fowler was a better finisher. Just had a natural ability to find the goal. Even the fat version with the dodgy knees kept scoring.
Best Natural finisher.. John Aldridge.. has to be worth a shout..
Scored for whoever and where ever he played.. we where dickheads in lettting him go when we did..
He simply knew where the goal was...
Scored for whoever and where ever he played.. we where dickheads in lettting him go when we did..
He simply knew where the goal was...
Totally.
Rush, Aldridge and Fowler are the 3 best finishers mentioned in this thread.
Rush, Aldridge and Fowler are the 3 best finishers mentioned in this thread.
When you look back we have had some outrageously good strikers over the last 25 years despite never winning the title. In my time Rushie was past his very best but still a lethal finisher. Fowler was a pure natural, any sort of goal and he could score it.
Owen i never considered a natural finisher, not in his time with us but he did improve as his career went on. Torres was pretty much the complete striker, pace strength good in the air scored goals with both feet, and he played in arguably the strongest era of the premiership.
Suarez while easily the best player of the lot was probably not the best finisher, at least in the clinical sense. He seemed to blaze an awful lot of shots wide or over.
Id probably say Fowler or Torres assuming we are referring to 'nailed on never gonna miss' type player. Sturridge is remarkable in terms of accuracy but his career has been so stop start its impossible to tell.
Owen i never considered a natural finisher, not in his time with us but he did improve as his career went on. Torres was pretty much the complete striker, pace strength good in the air scored goals with both feet, and he played in arguably the strongest era of the premiership.
Suarez while easily the best player of the lot was probably not the best finisher, at least in the clinical sense. He seemed to blaze an awful lot of shots wide or over.
Id probably say Fowler or Torres assuming we are referring to 'nailed on never gonna miss' type player. Sturridge is remarkable in terms of accuracy but his career has been so stop start its impossible to tell.
Owen not a natural finisher? Absolute bollocks.
Yup. He get's nowhere near enough credit, for obvious reasons, but some people genuinely seem to have forgotten just how fucking good he was.
He scored every type of goal and was absolutely clinical in those first 3-4 years.
Finisher is the wrong word. It should be 'snaffler of chances'.
We're not talking about doughnuts here, Gene.
He didn't score 'every type of goal' though. He wasn't exactly prolific in the air and he couldn't shoot from distance.
He was very good in the box and amazing at one on ones.
Thanks for mentioning Sir Roger!
Hunt was a lethal finisher. He also had very good ball control, so that he could wander around in the opposition penalty area, with the ball seemingly glued to his foot, until he saw a shooting opportunity.
Alf Ramsay recognised Hunt's goal scoring reliability when he chose him for the World Cup Final in 1966, provoking a howl of outrage from the London media who thought Jimmy Greaves was the obvious choice.
When last did you watch a compilation of his goals?
I've watched all of his goals. I was present for many of them. Including his debut at Wimbledon. For a relatively short player he certainly did score a decent amount of headers, he had a decent leap and lovely technique, but let's not pretend that the vast majority of his goals, 90% say, were NOT scored with his head.
And as for his long-range shooting, he didn't exactly thump many in from 25 yards or free-kicks, he was no Fowler, Shearer or Henry in that regard.
But he was a brilliant striker and one of the very best to ever play for Liverpool
Happy to be corrected if need be, but I thought it was Hurst who took the place which the Lahndan media had already awarded to Greaves. As I understood it Sir Roger was always going to play.
That's not how I remember it Jules. I remember Ramsay being challenged by journalists for picking Sir Roger ahead of Jimmy Greaves. Ramsay replied tersely that Hunt was a striker who scored 30 goals every season so he felt that he was perfectly justified.
Still, maybe I'm wrong and the circumstances were different. It was 50 years ago after all.
Wasn't Greaves first choice but injured for the final iirc? Wow when you think about it what a choice to make, between Greaves, Hunt and Hurst! Oh for those England riches nowadays!
I've googled it, and Jules is right. Hunt was always going to play in the final. Ramsay's choice was between Hurst and Greaves (who was fit.) He chose Hurst ahead of Greaves.
Yeah, you're right. He was still an impeccable finisher though, which was the point I was supposed to make.
I watched his first 100 goals again last night and even I had forgotten just how good he was.
Depends what kind of goal you're talking about. I don't think we've ever had a better exponent of scoring spectacular goals than Suarez, but - though his general play was top class from the beginning - he actually didn't settle into his scoring groove until some time later. Besides Rushie, and Robbie to a slightly lesser extent, got the scruffy ones as well as the screamers from the beginning of their time at LFC.
Agree about Der Bomber. He was phenomenal.
Agree about Der Bomber. He was phenomenal.
After Suarez' first few games, I was going round telling people: "he's a great player but he's not a striker." 😀
I'm going to remind myself of this every time I read one of your posts about Lucas.
Any more love for Sturridge? He's never fully fit and it shows but can't help finding the net on his return.
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