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[quote author=jan link=topic=43598.msg1252441#msg1252441 date=1295005478]
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=43598.msg1252253#msg1252253 date=1294987413]
Last time he gave Poulsen his fair chance and he failed completly to make any impact on the game. Shelvey should be ahead of him in the qeue. Kuyt needs a rest... or something else. He just cant take on a man at all.. pathetic. Jova is probably an ok player in some teams but he is struggling here. Lucas is back to his old self after an ok period when er won some gone games.

Fuck we struggle without gerrard.
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The problem is Shelvey's not really DM so he won't be considered as a replacement for Poulsen or Lucas (except as a sub when we need to attack), the only alternative to the cunt twins is that midget Spearing who's also not very good
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He'd only need to complete two tackles to improve on Poulsen's defensive performance the other night. That would be a realistic target for a paraplegic, never mind a talented youngster like Shelvey.
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=43598.msg1252474#msg1252474 date=1295008204]
My big worry with Shelvey is that he looks a bit too sluggish to play in a central two, wouldn't mind seeing him ahead of Meireles and another though.
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Agree with this a lot.

Wouldn't mind Pacheco in front of Raul + one either.
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=43598.msg1252474#msg1252474 date=1295008204]
My big worry with Shelvey is that he looks a bit too sluggish to play in a central two, wouldn't mind seeing him ahead of Meireles and another though.
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I don't think so. You don't particularly need pace to play in central midfield. I'd be more wary of seeing him play in a more advanced attacking role as that IS a position where you'd ideally want someone with pace.

In any case, weren't you the one who said he'd be best in an Alonso type role? Why the change of opinion?
 
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[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=43598.msg1252474#msg1252474 date=1295008204]
My big worry with Shelvey is that he looks a bit too sluggish to play in a central two, wouldn't mind seeing him ahead of Meireles and another though.
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I don't think so. You don't particularly need pace to play in central midfield. I'd be more wary of seeing him play in a more advanced attacking role as that IS a position where you'd ideally want someone with pace.

In any case, weren't you the one who said he'd be best in an Alonso type role? Why the change of opinion?
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If we had a 'proper' defensive midfielder and Gerrard playing behind Torres then we'd have enough strength in there. As it stands though..
 
Kenny Dalglish returns to the Anfield dug-out as Liverpool manager for the first time in 20 years on Sunday - and the fact that it is the Merseyside derby against Everton only adds an extra layer of intrigue to what will be an emotional occasion.

Of course it was the 4-4 FA Cup draw at Everton that signalled the end of his first spell in charge and he returns in very different circumstances with a huge job to do to revive Liverpool's season.
Dalglish has correctly pointed out that the romance attached to his return only goes so far and realism will soon kick in. It kicked in emphatically on Wednesday night at Bloomfield Road when Blackpool beat Liverpool 2-1.

It will be an emotional occasion and he is guaranteed a rapturous welcome by the supporters who revere him, but once he has acknowledged the Anfield crowd Kenny's approach will be cold-headed. Years of experience take care of that and the only thought occupying his mind will be the fact that this is a game Liverpool have to win.

It will be an emotional day at Anfield on Sunday and Kenny will love being back on such familiar territory as Liverpool manager, but he will know it is a day for business and Everton will be doing their best to spoil his homecoming

Kenny will hope the lift his presence will give the crowd can be used to good effect. There is no question Anfield will be a united force in tandem with the team for the first time in a long while on Sunday, but the lift will only last so long if they do not start the game in the right manner.
If Liverpool play as they have done recently there will be nothing there for them against an Everton side who can be as good or as bad as anything around, but if they defend well then it is certainly within the capabilities of Dalglish's team to get a result. I think how Liverpool defend will have a big influence on the outcome of the game.

They need a result because, if they lose, they will face Wolves next in a fixture some would be only too willing to label as a contest between two relegation candidates. As someone with Liverpool's best interests at heart I would hate to see them in the throes of something like that, especially as I think both Kenny and the players are better than that, irrespective of what's happened this season.

I don't think anyone is under any illusions about the size of the task facing Kenny, but I speak as someone who played with him as a player and under him as a manager as well as a close friend and I know how good a manager and man-manager he is. And while some things may have changed in the game since he last took control as Liverpool boss, those qualities are just as valid and vital today as they were 20 years ago.
I think it is harder to get the best out of players today than it was then but Dalglish's record as a manager deserves total respect and makes him the perfect choice to take charge in a troubled time at Liverpool.

There are certain things he will be looking to improve quickly. Liverpool's away record is one of them - and in Roy Hodgson's defence it was abysmal last season under Rafael Benitez even before he got there.
Dalglish and first-team coach Steve Clarke will also want to bring some organisation to Liverpool's defence, which has been all over the place. Liverpool got into plenty of good areas in the final third at Bloomfield Road but every time Blackpool attacked they looked like scoring. This will have been noted but this is not a problem you can detect on Wednesday and fix on Thursday.

Liverpool need to start quickly without going off their heads in a game that is always quick and frenetic. It is a match they have to win but this is by no means a certainty because Everton - inconsistent as they are - are probably playing better than Liverpool.

Dalglish will want that fast and confident start. He will tell them to be organised, aggressive and to show effort, attitude and commitment. If they come off and players and manager both feel everyone on the pitch has done their best then he can ask for no more.

He will also hope some of the marginal decisions that went against Liverpool at Manchester United and Blackpool - not bad decisions but the close calls that you tend not to get when your luck is out - will start going in his favour.

Liverpool will suffer a massive loss with the absence of Steven Gerrard through suspension. They have two world-class players in Gerrard and Fernando Torres. One is out of sorts and the other is out of the team and rest assured Everton will be lifted by knowing the captain's name will not be on the teamsheet.
Gerrard is a player who is truly inspirational, a leader and someone who can bail you out by producing something world-class in the last third as well as leading by example in all areas of the pitch.

This one has spice in it, Liverpool missing Gerrard and Everton missing Cahill. It is going to be an open game one end to the other

Everton will assess all these factors and think they can beat Liverpool. Manager David Moyes will want his players to test their opponents, test that fragile confidence, test that defensive organisation.
I haven't spoken to David recently but he must be tearing his hair out at Everton's season at times. Here is a team that can win at Manchester City and beat Spurs at home and then lose or draw against so-called lesser teams. When you think a result will set them on their way it does not happen.
Just as Gerrard is a big miss for Liverpool, Everton will be without Tim Cahill, who has regularly made crucial contributions in derbies in the past. Even without him, though, Everton may still fancy their chances of getting joy against Liverpool in the air.

So it will be an emotional day at Anfield on Sunday and Kenny will love being back on such familiar territory as Liverpool manager, but he will know it is a day for business and Everton will be doing their best to spoil his homecoming.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/9361702.stm
 
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=43598.msg1252720#msg1252720 date=1295022248]
I want to see Pacheco in behind Torres.

No arguments.
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I'd take anything new right now, anything to avoid playing the usual shite suspects.
 
I now have a good feeling about Sunday.

It's Kenny's homecoming and Anfield will erupt when he leads his team out. The supporters will once again become Liverpool's 12th man and the energy from the stands will send confidence coursing through the players' veins.

Kenny will have learnt from Wednesday and will pick the strongest side available to him. They will play well, get a bit of luck also and win.

I can hear a capacity Anfield standing as one to thunder "Dalglish" and it gives me the shivers and my eyes are watering. It's going to be marvellous afternoon.
 
The crowd can be the 12th man, hell we can stick 15 men on the pitch, but if the 15 on the pitch are gash (they mostly are), then it won't matter.

1-2.
 
reina
kelly
skrtel
agger
aurelio
johnson
lucas
meireles
cole
babel
torres

just a rumour from someone
 
[quote author=5euros link=topic=43598.msg1252865#msg1252865 date=1295029196]
reina
kelly
skrtel
agger
aurelio
johnson
lucas
meireles
cole
babel
torres

just a rumour from someone
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That's what i'd do.
 
What happened to the team that was supposed to be played against Blackpool that was posted on here?
 
[quote author=Avvy link=topic=43598.msg1252853#msg1252853 date=1295028562]
You going for it,Wilko?

Lucky man if you are.

I know Spion is.

Enjoy the game,mate.
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I'm over 3000 miles away these days so my season ticket owning days are over, Avvy. I'd love to be there though.
 
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[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=43598.msg1252477#msg1252477 date=1295008451]
Our problem is that we really only have two midfielders of a decent ability competing for 3 spots. Which leaves Poulsen and Lucas for the other spot. Which isn't so bad when Meireles and Gerrard are both available, but it's catastrophic when one's missing. We either need to invest now, or change to a formation that we only play with two CMs. Thus cutting out the risk of having to play with both Poulsen and Lucas.
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One other option is to have Kuyt central between the midfield two and Torres, he works as hard as any of our central midfielder's and 'can' be a threat, he's not showing much outwide these days so it's worth a go. Then you could play two from Meireles, Shelvey and Lucas, while Kuyt might give us that added solidity and ability to chase back.
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So he can ruin even more of our attacks. Maybe Kuyt is our answer for DM cause the only thing he has offered us this season except the Chelsea game is "defensive stability" or so I'm led to believe.

Edit: This was sarcasm but I have never liked seeing Kuyt play anything but up front.
 
[quote author=Shelvey link=topic=43598.msg1253020#msg1253020 date=1295043007]
Witness Protection Program, yes I didn't want to have a Man City player as my log in.
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??
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=43598.msg1252988#msg1252988 date=1295039846]
Other than The Cunt, I'd be OK with that team.
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What team do you want to be out there, with current availability?
 
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