Read in isolation that post is amusing.
Euro 2012 Day 8- Ukraine v France, Sweden v England
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Read in isolation that post is amusing.
The way he twisted his body to get full power on to it was impressive too.
I could never jump and twist while heading a ball. Generally the ball would bounce off my head and if I was lucky it would go in the general direction where I wanted it to.
So true. Was exactly the same.
Exactly. I think we'd thrive with 2 intelligent players playing off him.
If I'd noticed that I wouldn't have scoffed. It would have been a sensible suggestion IMO.
I did that as well. Was getting desperate. I just wanted quality passing in midfield. Having Aurelio as part of a midfield three would allow him to cross the ball from deep.
But here's the thread:
http://www.sixcrazyminutes.com/index.php?threads/enrique-is-missing-something.16206/
I mentioned it in other threads as well.
Anyway it's a pointless discussion cause we kinda fucked him off already.
England ratings by Duncan White, Telegraph.co.uk
Hart 7
Looked comfortable early on and was left exposed for both concessions. Made an important late save from Ibrahimovic. If his speed coming off his line was impressive, his distribution was a little erratic again.
Johnson 4
Owes Walcott big time. He was played Mellberg onside for Sweden’s first and then carried the ball into his own net, capping a sloppy performance.
Terry 7
Aggressive and assertive, his only moment of real discomfort was when Zlatan out-sprinted him. Made up for that with a thumping tackle on the Swedish captain. Denied a goal by a magnificent Isaksson save.
Lescott 6
Seemed to go missing for Sweden’s second goal having been pretty solid until then. Did not look confident in his distribution.
Cole 7
Predictably strong performance, suffocating the Swedish right and helping to build play. An excellent first-time through ball could have produced a goal if Young had finished.
Milner 5
A laboured performance from a player who likes like he is running in sand. Worked hard but failed to get crosses in and was booked for hacking down Olsson. No surprise he was hooked.
Gerrard 6
Still does not look at his sharpest but showed his class with a superb delivery for Carroll’s goal. Faded as the game wore on before finding the energy for one last burst in stoppage time, denied a goal by another Isaksson save.
Parker 6
Almost scored with a shot from range early on but took too many touches in possession as England built attacks.
Young 5
After a poor start grew into the game a bit but was not the attacking outlet he should have been down the left. Where was the dribbling? The crossing?
Welbeck 7
Impudent finish for the England winner, all the kore remarkable as he had been left very isolated for so much of the game. Might have done better with an early header.
Carroll 6
Did exactly what was asked of him, butting in Gerrard’s cross to give England the lead. Did not threaten much after that, though, and capped a clumsy performance by being booked for hacking down Kallstrom.
Subs
61 Walcott for Milner.
89 Oxlade-Chamberlain on for Welbeck
By sending on Walcott Hodgson saved the game. The Arsenal winger scored the equalizer and then crossed for the winner. Superb stuff.
Did he watch the game?
Hart 7
Looked comfortable early on and was left exposed for both concessions. Made an important late save from Ibrahimovic. If his speed coming off his line was impressive, his distribution was a little erratic again.
Johnson 4
Owes Walcott big time. He was played Mellberg onside for Sweden’s first and then carried the ball into his own net, capping a sloppy performance.
Terry 7
Aggressive and assertive, his only moment of real discomfort was when Zlatan out-sprinted him. Made up for that with a thumping tackle on the Swedish captain. Denied a goal by a magnificent Isaksson save.
Lescott 6
Seemed to go missing for Sweden’s second goal having been pretty solid until then. Did not look confident in his distribution.
Cole 7
Predictably strong performance, suffocating the Swedish right and helping to build play. An excellent first-time through ball could have produced a goal if Young had finished.
Milner 5
A laboured performance from a player who likes like he is running in sand. Worked hard but failed to get crosses in and was booked for hacking down Olsson. No surprise he was hooked.
Gerrard 6
Still does not look at his sharpest but showed his class with a superb delivery for Carroll’s goal. Faded as the game wore on before finding the energy for one last burst in stoppage time, denied a goal by another Isaksson save.
Parker 6
Almost scored with a shot from range early on but took too many touches in possession as England built attacks.
Young 5
After a poor start grew into the game a bit but was not the attacking outlet he should have been down the left. Where was the dribbling? The crossing?
Welbeck 7
Impudent finish for the England winner, all the kore remarkable as he had been left very isolated for so much of the game. Might have done better with an early header.
Carroll 6
Did exactly what was asked of him, butting in Gerrard’s cross to give England the lead. Did not threaten much after that, though, and capped a clumsy performance by being booked for hacking down Kallstrom.
Subs
61 Walcott for Milner.
89 Oxlade-Chamberlain on for Welbeck
By sending on Walcott Hodgson saved the game. The Arsenal winger scored the equalizer and then crossed for the winner. Superb stuff.
Did he watch the game?
There was some other idiot on the radio just now saying how poor Magic supposedly was, and how England should replace him with Phil Jones. Too many of the press can't be bothered to think. They just sit down in front of their keyboards and go on autopilot.
Those ratings are awful, no reflection on the game.
Actually I think it's the opposite JJ. Usually when the cross comes in from deep it's early and Carroll is likely to be 1 on 1 and not 3 on 1, definitely playing to his strengths, more room to work in and easier to get the run and jump height.
As against that, though, the ball will be coming on to the defenders' heads instead of swinging away from them, as it would if crossed from the byline. I can see it working well against weaker defences but better ones, which are naturally well organised, might gobble those crosses up.
Alan Pardew:
Whatever protection he's wearing, he should let everyone know ... An Andy Carroll screamer to your nuts and you just walk on as if it was nothing!
Small balls and big penis....
That's an excellent observation from Pardew. Carroll should study how Zlatan did that, but the problem will be that Carroll just doesn't have the same technical ability. That bit in the second half where Zlatan held off Johnson and Walcott was unreal.
Whatever protection he's wearing, he should let everyone know ... An Andy Carroll screamer to your nuts and you just walk on as if it was nothing!
Can you imagine if that was a Sweden (or any opposition) player too. They'd have been rolling around and stretchered off. Fair play to the ref, he took it well and to it not even book Carroll was very generous.
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just because there are two big units doesn't mean you can compate andy and zlatan. zlatan is a different type of striker. as mentioned before zlatan technical ability are second to none and he can come deep and dictate play, neither of which are andy's strenghs.
Kenny's column:
Andy Carroll gave something close to the complete centre forward’s performance in Kiev on Friday night.
He scored a magnificent header, he held the ball up well and he worked back and made some vital clearances.
I have always said that the big man has an awful lot more things going for him than against him and he proved that again against Sweden.
I don’t have any feelings of personal vindication about the goal he scored in the Olympic Stadium.
Some people may have questioned my decision to buy him for Liverpool but it’s not about me or any of the criticism I have received.
Whatever anybody else said, he was always going to come through as a player.
Even a couple of days ago, I heard someone had written that fans were laughing at him. I think Andy will be the one who’s laughing now.
The vitriol that has been aimed at him over the past year or so is running out of steam.
There was nothing particularly surprising to me about the way he played against the Swedes. He just played to the level he is capable of.
There are some attributes that Andy does not have but he has got a lot of things in his locker that other players lack.
As a football player, you are never going to be all things to all men.
His attitude and his determination when he played for me at Liverpool were there for everyone to see.
If he had any problems, it was not really because he was struggling to settle in.
It was because there were four or five new signings and the existing players were adapting to them.
The kind of performance he produced for England in Kiev proves that he is starting to get the benefits of the work he did at Newcastle and Liverpool.
He ran more than 11kms during the game, more than anyone in the England side except Steven Gerrard and Scott Parker.
He will do that. He will put in a shift for you. And he is capable of causing the best defence a lot of problems.
It was a fantastic ball from Steven Gerrard for Andy’s goal. Steven’s first touch was what made it. He kept the ball in play and set up the cross all at the same time.
Andy knew what was coming after that and he made a great leap to his get his head to the ball.
He did well enough to stay in the team for the final group game against Ukraine but I’m not about to start picking Roy Hodgson’s side for him.
Roy has said himself that Wayne Rooney will come back in after his suspension and I think that’s right. Wayne deserves to play.
Who plays with him is a good problem for Roy to have. Whether it is Danny Welbeck, because he plays with Wayne at Manchester United, or Andy because of his performance on Friday, I don’t know.
But I do know that if England are to keep progressing in this tournament it will not just be because of 11 players.
They will have to get the most out of their squad and Roy will have to turn to different players to suit different occasions.
After Friday night in Kiev, he knows that when he turns to Andy Carroll, Andy will not let him down.
Andy Carroll gave something close to the complete centre forward’s performance in Kiev on Friday night.
He scored a magnificent header, he held the ball up well and he worked back and made some vital clearances.
I have always said that the big man has an awful lot more things going for him than against him and he proved that again against Sweden.
I don’t have any feelings of personal vindication about the goal he scored in the Olympic Stadium.
Some people may have questioned my decision to buy him for Liverpool but it’s not about me or any of the criticism I have received.
Whatever anybody else said, he was always going to come through as a player.
Even a couple of days ago, I heard someone had written that fans were laughing at him. I think Andy will be the one who’s laughing now.
The vitriol that has been aimed at him over the past year or so is running out of steam.
There was nothing particularly surprising to me about the way he played against the Swedes. He just played to the level he is capable of.
There are some attributes that Andy does not have but he has got a lot of things in his locker that other players lack.
As a football player, you are never going to be all things to all men.
His attitude and his determination when he played for me at Liverpool were there for everyone to see.
If he had any problems, it was not really because he was struggling to settle in.
It was because there were four or five new signings and the existing players were adapting to them.
The kind of performance he produced for England in Kiev proves that he is starting to get the benefits of the work he did at Newcastle and Liverpool.
He ran more than 11kms during the game, more than anyone in the England side except Steven Gerrard and Scott Parker.
He will do that. He will put in a shift for you. And he is capable of causing the best defence a lot of problems.
It was a fantastic ball from Steven Gerrard for Andy’s goal. Steven’s first touch was what made it. He kept the ball in play and set up the cross all at the same time.
Andy knew what was coming after that and he made a great leap to his get his head to the ball.
He did well enough to stay in the team for the final group game against Ukraine but I’m not about to start picking Roy Hodgson’s side for him.
Roy has said himself that Wayne Rooney will come back in after his suspension and I think that’s right. Wayne deserves to play.
Who plays with him is a good problem for Roy to have. Whether it is Danny Welbeck, because he plays with Wayne at Manchester United, or Andy because of his performance on Friday, I don’t know.
But I do know that if England are to keep progressing in this tournament it will not just be because of 11 players.
They will have to get the most out of their squad and Roy will have to turn to different players to suit different occasions.
After Friday night in Kiev, he knows that when he turns to Andy Carroll, Andy will not let him down.
the thing ive noticed about carroll is he seems a lot more comfortable in attacking diagonal balls from deeper, i think its why he got more assists from the philosopher at newcastle and currently hasnt finished off any of the crosses from downing, who likes to hug the touch line. i imagine that he has finished off a few from gerrard and think that he'll work better with adam next season too.
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