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[quote author=Fabio link=topic=40646.msg1122584#msg1122584 date=1276850955]
There's a fine line between arrogance and confidence. The fact that rooney thinks we can beat them when we're not on our best and that he knows very little about them is very arrogant IMO. Ignorant too
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To be fair on the lad, I wouldn't say it's so much ignorance or arrogance, I think he's just a bit dim. He said 'erm' about 25 times the other day in a 30 word interview. He made Gerrard look like fucking Shakespeare.
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Ha, this is obviously true. But his comments are still symptomatic of a general English malaise. If most English players/people had a humble, open-minded attitude to the world, this wouldn't be the default setting, even for really thick people. He'd just repeat the obvious Rafa-isms about them being a good team and England needing to find their true form etc. The fact is that the English as a people still seem to believe that they're the centre of the world, the best at everything, and that foreigners, especially ones you've never heard of, are bound to be inferior.
OK, rant over. I do think it's true though, in the most generalised way.
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With the greatest of respect you're talking through your arse. The English are no different to anyone else in regard to their views of foreigners. My Irish mates always and Scottish mates would give precisely the same view as any of my English mates if someone asked them their views on forthcoming football opponents, but I never assume that they therefore are showing themselves to think they're the centre of the world etc.
The English are also a pretty diverse bunch and the views and attitudes of people differ radically from one part of the country to another, so only an idiot would presume to opine on the views of the English, based on what can only be prejudice and ignorance - and I speak as a bloke that was born in Ireland, so know all about prejudice, ignorance and overblown nationalism