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england team - do you give a shit?

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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=46771.msg1395299#msg1395299 date=1315368432]
Andrews & Whelan have been Trap's first choice midfield since day dot.

They're seriously fucking average. But he's got very little other options (Gibson maybe?), so one can only piss with the cock they've got and all that...
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McCarthy?
 
Do an Irish thread lads....

I used to follow England very much, took interest emotionally in how they played and fared in tournaments etc.... Now I try to prevent myself giving a flying fuck for two reasons.

1. We invariably play shite and NEVER seem to organise/maximise what resources we do have, i've lost count of the years we've watched a team almost unable to keep the ball... We are just shite basically and it's tiresome.

2. Far too many cunts use the national team for some jingoistic outdated unwarranted ego wank. I realise lots of nations hate us but for us actually to be deserving of that as a hateful ball of bad atmosphere and drunken cunts ...Rule Brittannia... GET FUCKED YOU UTTER MORONS....

In fact the only fight i've ever got into as an adult was watching England vs Argentina, the Beckham penalty one... In a fairly affluent quiet town, Stafford, and some cunts started up the "with St.George in my heart keep me English.... NO SURRENDER TO THE I.R.A."

Now firstly there is no need for any imaginary historical character to "keep" you English, you either are English or you are not, secondly we were not even playing Ireland and even if we were how the fuck and what the fuck have the I.R.A got to do with football? How exactly would "we" surrender and to whom? And who is fighting and for what and for why? I'm not big on politics or empire or jingositic shit or the troubles but.... especially when i'm watching a game... a fucking GAME....

Obviously I didn't bother to explain how i felt about it to the goons around me in the pub I was just drunk enough and stupid enough to make it known that they were cunts by shouting/screaming at the main ringleader who had started it all up in a tattooed rage "Pack it in You fucking ignorant cunt".

Unluckily the fella was within punching distance so he put a fair to middling size punch right on my ear, luckily I was pissed off enough to luckily flatten the cunt with my effort and the barstaff turfed him and his mates out.

It's colours your opinion of the team when shit like that is around it and woven through it... it's as disgraceful as it is embarrasssing as it is sad. The ordinary people who follow England are to blame in a way for not making these dickheads feel unwelcome, i remember standing on the Kop once and some head-the-ball piped up withs some racist shite and got shouted down pretty directly by the Kopites around him.... we need more of that in the world, people not willing to suffer that ignorant shit.

Yes I'm "patriotic", I do sincerely love my country and feel a deep affinity with it, the actual physical place, and I do like/love many of compatriots and how we can be... but the moment that England doesnt have twats whistling other nations national anthems while pissed and covered in Tatts deriding "foriegners" threateningly drunk as though its some kind of quasi military invasion....selling inflatable spitfires in Germany...FFS.... it's tragic just fucking tragic.

I still cheer when we score and yes it would mean a lot to me if we were good to watch and did well etc etc... but with cunts like that... how can you be proud?

Oh and another thing...

John fucking Terry.

Exactly the kind of jumped of cunt I'm talking about, apparently his "passion" means that he has to be captain, despite his completely obvious lack of decency and class.... I just hope one day we could sort it out and play with a bit of style while maintaining some dignity and respect for others both on and of the pitch.

I've repeated myself which probably shows yes I do care deep down, and i notice its a monster post so!! I remember England tournaments etc etc... lots of happy/sad indelible memories.... I just wish we could express our love for our country without all the ugly ignorant fucking Bullshit.

PS
The poor fella who got killed last night was apparently a welshman attacked by other welshmen... strange...
 
[quote author=Gary25 link=topic=46771.msg1395285#msg1395285 date=1315348839]
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-14815693

Wales fan 'murdered' before England match at Wembley

A man thought to be a Wales football fan has died following an incident before the team's match against England at Wembley.

The man, in his 40s, was taken to hospital with head injuries after emergency crews were called to an area outside the stadium at 19:20 BST.

He died in hospital shortly before 21:00 BST.

Six people have been arrested and police are treating the case as a murder inquiry.




Fucking hell!! 🙁 R.I.P
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6 Welshmen arrested.
 
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=46771.msg1395329#msg1395329 date=1315381657]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=46771.msg1395299#msg1395299 date=1315368432]
Andrews & Whelan have been Trap's first choice midfield since day dot.

They're seriously fucking average. But he's got very little other options (Gibson maybe?), so one can only piss with the cock they've got and all that...
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McCarthy?
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For the future maybe.

I don't think Trap likes players he can't trust, certainly not in central positions anyway. McCarthy's talented, but a bit of a loose one, so he sticks with the foot soldiers he knows.
 
Few snippets regarding Dunne's performance:

Paul Mc Grath: 'Richard Dunne congratulations.'

'That was the best performance I have ever seen from any Irish centre-half - and that includes myself.'




Dunne's heroic efforts put him a cut above the rest

EMMET MALONE

THERE MAY have been some controversy brewing among the locals about how easily Richard Dunne could have been picked out through the latter stages of last night’s game given he played with a faintly-visible number five scrawled upon his back.

In the mixed zone afterwards, though, the Russians found it easy enough to spot the big centre back with the bloody scars on his cheek and chin ample evidence of the battle he’d just been in.

Dunne just had one of those nights when one player’s performance writes the history of a game in the memory of his side’s fans.

None among the small band of Irish supporters in the stadium will ever recall it in the slightest detail without his name springing to mind.

The Dubliner’s determination to haul the back four through a test of concentration and endurance that seemed certain to break them was heroic.

The sight of him trying to get back on to the pitch after receiving four stitches to the cuts on his face persisted afterwards.

“I got the bang in the face, the doctor fixed it and I went back on, that was about it,” he recalled as he made his exit. “I was just a bit dazed for a bit but alright. I think there was blood on one jersey and then the other jersey didn’t have a number so I had to come off again. Then Alan Kelly just drew a number on it and so I got back on again. That was alright then.”

His head cleared to allow him play his part in the tail end of what was an astonishing rearguard action but the 31-year-old said he was acutely aware of the stakes and anxious, like so many others on the pitch, to take whatever was there from the game after the deep disappointment of last Friday night against Slovakia.

“We felt we probably could have got a win on Friday night but the fact is we didn’t and people were left wondering whether we’d blown it.

“To come here and turn in a defensive performance like that, hopefully it’s put us back into the group.”
 
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