& still improving and hopefully will continue to do so.
Loyalty - to the club, such as the efforts you have made to support KK.
Belief - that the transfers being engineered by KK / Comolli & Fenway are the right moves at the right time for the club. That doesn't mean that anyone's belief has to be all encompassing or blind ! Though it seems some people don't have any belief in these moves - even in part. All I'm seeing is criticism, except from a few more moderate posters.
It seems (throughout numerous threads - poor Spidey seems to take a hammering in this regard !) many people interpret comments here almost as polar swings ! I didn't say mediocre - but our team are no longer at the top level, the club is a different matter and pure statistics dictate it is - there is a huge difference between being mediocre and being at a level just below the current top teams in Europe.
I think it's ca. 75M not 85M and whether it's KK, Rafa or Hodgson, the proof is in the eating.
Jordan Henderson, Stewart Downing & Charlie Adam won't improve our squad ? Sorry but I have to strongly disagree on that one. As for resale value - it's not often players at top clubs are sold for more than they paid for them - Torres an obvious exception - it's whether the eventually represent value for money over the course of their employ for LFC that matters.
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Come on,Froggy.
'Loyalty v belief'?
'Club v team'?
They're just two sides of the same coin,mate.
The bottomline is that we're spending huge amounts on potential talent. Fullstop.
On the one hand you suggest this is because there's not enough belief in the moves being hatched by FSG, Kenny and Comolli. On the other hand you suggest that the talents we're seeing are the best players we can possbily get because we're now a mediocre shadow of what we used to be, seeing as we're not in the CL.
Which is it Froggy?
Elaborate master plan or realistic acceptance of mediocrity?
As for Spidey, he hasnt taken a hammering at all. His view that we're now steeped in mediocrity and we need to get in marginally better players so that we can ONE DAY dream of bringing in good players is shared by many on here.
With regards to club v team, this is basically a rehashing of the view that we're a shadow of what we used to be. In fairness there is truth to that.
But the only way to strengthen the team or club is to get in the best available players we can get. I dont think we're doing that, CL absence notwithstanding.
You are right though when you sway that resale value isntthe most important maeker in determing value. It's whether they're worth waht we paid to us.