What would people say if I told them we were still pursuing Mata even with Downing sewn up?
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[quote author=Hansern link=topic=44931.msg1363197#msg1363197 date=1310380204]
Anyone else?
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Of course there are more players we can list, but it depends on whether we agree, amongst ourselves at least, what selection criteria is appropriate.
Mata is not an out and out winger, but has experience for example. Is that fine or are some suggesting we need a guy that has it in his locker to stay out wide and put crosses in a la Downing? Would an 18 year old attacking midfielder with a lot of promise be worthwhile considering?
Anyone else?
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Of course there are more players we can list, but it depends on whether we agree, amongst ourselves at least, what selection criteria is appropriate.
Mata is not an out and out winger, but has experience for example. Is that fine or are some suggesting we need a guy that has it in his locker to stay out wide and put crosses in a la Downing? Would an 18 year old attacking midfielder with a lot of promise be worthwhile considering?
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=44931.msg1363209#msg1363209 date=1310381235]
What would people say if I told them we were still pursuing Mata even with Downing sewn up?
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I wouldn't believe you, that would take our spending well past the 120m mark (including jan)
What would people say if I told them we were still pursuing Mata even with Downing sewn up?
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I wouldn't believe you, that would take our spending well past the 120m mark (including jan)
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[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=44931.msg1363209#msg1363209 date=1310381235]
What would people say if I told them we were still pursuing Mata even with Downing sewn up?
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I wouldn't believe you, that would take our spending well past the 120m mark (including jan)
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Haha. You'd think wouldn't you?
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=44931.msg1363209#msg1363209 date=1310381235]
What would people say if I told them we were still pursuing Mata even with Downing sewn up?
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I wouldn't believe you, that would take our spending well past the 120m mark (including jan)
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Haha. You'd think wouldn't you?
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[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=44931.msg1363209#msg1363209 date=1310381235]
What would people say if I told them we were still pursuing Mata even with Downing sewn up?
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I wouldn't believe you, that would take our spending well past the 120m mark (including jan)
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Our net spend is 44m currently. I think we'll buy more players yet
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=44931.msg1363209#msg1363209 date=1310381235]
What would people say if I told them we were still pursuing Mata even with Downing sewn up?
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I wouldn't believe you, that would take our spending well past the 120m mark (including jan)
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Our net spend is 44m currently. I think we'll buy more players yet
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[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=44931.msg1363209#msg1363209 date=1310381235]
What would people say if I told them we were still pursuing Mata even with Downing sewn up?
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I wouldn't believe you, that would take our spending well past the 120m mark (including jan)
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I might be inclined to believe considering we would have sold up to 80m quids worth of player also.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=44931.msg1363209#msg1363209 date=1310381235]
What would people say if I told them we were still pursuing Mata even with Downing sewn up?
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I wouldn't believe you, that would take our spending well past the 120m mark (including jan)
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I might be inclined to believe considering we would have sold up to 80m quids worth of player also.
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[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=44931.msg1363209#msg1363209 date=1310381235]
What would people say if I told them we were still pursuing Mata even with Downing sewn up?
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I wouldn't believe you, that would take our spending well past the 120m mark (including jan)
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Our net spend is 44m currently. I think we'll buy more players yet
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Yep, as I pointed out earlier on (& was roundly ignored), we've spent just 9m each NET on 5 players. Not too shabby.
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[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=44931.msg1363209#msg1363209 date=1310381235]
What would people say if I told them we were still pursuing Mata even with Downing sewn up?
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I wouldn't believe you, that would take our spending well past the 120m mark (including jan)
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Our net spend is 44m currently. I think we'll buy more players yet
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Yep, as I pointed out earlier on (& was roundly ignored), we've spent just 9m each NET on 5 players. Not too shabby.
People don't focus on net. They see big fees and get pissed off, which I can understand. If the fee is 20m for downing it is too much. But we're crying out for a left sided player and I'm willing to not argue with paying that fee for balance and a consistent threat on both sides of the pitch
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=44931.msg1363197#msg1363197 date=1310380204]
The really top alternatives out there would probably cost in the same region as Downing or much more, the question is if they would want to join us. We cant offer CL footie at the moment and that is a big big factor for most players these days.
NZogbia is an option. Mental, but talented. 10 mill is the rumoured fee. Questionable attitude which isnt something KD and DC are to fond of if recent interviews are to be believed.
Bastos: Looks likely to join Juve, but his agent said there is a lot of interst. Barca, inter and chelsea. Older than Downing and would cost 13-14 mill. Good player though.
Di Maria: could be available. Will be very expencive. Id love him here, but would take ome convincing regarding to CL footie. Rumour is Chelsea are after him.
Mata: will be very expencive. Would be a great signing for whoever gets him, but looks likely to stay in Spain.
Payet: moved to Lille
Gervinho: moved to arsenal
Young: moved to utd
Hazard: looks likely to stay in france
Anyone else? Bastos is probably the closest one Id imagine.
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This is a good list of options. And many would add more individual fire power than Downing, but while I am not the biggest Downing supporter, I think he likely would provide better service next season than any of those listed. This is especially true when compared with the most likely alternative - N'Zogbia. I like N'Zog, but his aerial service can be quite poor.
So, if Kenny wants to maximize Carroll with good aerial service, I understand Downing being a priority.
The really top alternatives out there would probably cost in the same region as Downing or much more, the question is if they would want to join us. We cant offer CL footie at the moment and that is a big big factor for most players these days.
NZogbia is an option. Mental, but talented. 10 mill is the rumoured fee. Questionable attitude which isnt something KD and DC are to fond of if recent interviews are to be believed.
Bastos: Looks likely to join Juve, but his agent said there is a lot of interst. Barca, inter and chelsea. Older than Downing and would cost 13-14 mill. Good player though.
Di Maria: could be available. Will be very expencive. Id love him here, but would take ome convincing regarding to CL footie. Rumour is Chelsea are after him.
Mata: will be very expencive. Would be a great signing for whoever gets him, but looks likely to stay in Spain.
Payet: moved to Lille
Gervinho: moved to arsenal
Young: moved to utd
Hazard: looks likely to stay in france
Anyone else? Bastos is probably the closest one Id imagine.
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This is a good list of options. And many would add more individual fire power than Downing, but while I am not the biggest Downing supporter, I think he likely would provide better service next season than any of those listed. This is especially true when compared with the most likely alternative - N'Zogbia. I like N'Zog, but his aerial service can be quite poor.
So, if Kenny wants to maximize Carroll with good aerial service, I understand Downing being a priority.
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=44931.msg1363232#msg1363232 date=1310382989]
People don't focus on net. They see big fees and get pissed off, which I can understand. If the fee is 20m for downing it is too much. But we're crying out for a left sided player and I'm willing to not argue with paying that fee for balance and a consistent threat on both sides of the pitch
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No, which is odd really because 'net spending' was all we were hearing about for years when Benitez was here. It only gets mentioned in the context of making out that the owners are tight.
People don't focus on net. They see big fees and get pissed off, which I can understand. If the fee is 20m for downing it is too much. But we're crying out for a left sided player and I'm willing to not argue with paying that fee for balance and a consistent threat on both sides of the pitch
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No, which is odd really because 'net spending' was all we were hearing about for years when Benitez was here. It only gets mentioned in the context of making out that the owners are tight.
downing henderson adam (whilst keeping hold of meireles and maybe cole and aqua)
I would expect us to challenge for a CL place
downing henderson adam + mata and a left back (whilst keeping hold of meireles and maybe cole and aqua)
I would expect us to challenge for the league
that would really signal the intent of the owners as I assumed the plan was to claw our way into a CL and then build from there.
I would expect us to challenge for a CL place
downing henderson adam + mata and a left back (whilst keeping hold of meireles and maybe cole and aqua)
I would expect us to challenge for the league
that would really signal the intent of the owners as I assumed the plan was to claw our way into a CL and then build from there.
That would be ACE if true Jon.
I agree with some of it Keni, but I dont think its entirely correct. We have no recognized natural left winger in the squad. As Kenny and Comolli have said there wont be signed any players that hampers the developmet of our acadamy players. We have one of the most talented lw in the country in sterling. As hes only 16, signing an established winger makes perfect sense to compliment the team, tactics, squad and long term perspective.
I agree with some of it Keni, but I dont think its entirely correct. We have no recognized natural left winger in the squad. As Kenny and Comolli have said there wont be signed any players that hampers the developmet of our acadamy players. We have one of the most talented lw in the country in sterling. As hes only 16, signing an established winger makes perfect sense to compliment the team, tactics, squad and long term perspective.
wingers are like buses, you wait ages for one and then three arrive at once*
*I realise we haven't signed any wingers yet 😛
*I realise we haven't signed any wingers yet 😛
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=44931.msg1363246#msg1363246 date=1310384034]
Except one of the buses is cheaper, quicker and mythical
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hahaha.
Except one of the buses is cheaper, quicker and mythical
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hahaha.
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Let's hope these Mata negotiations come to something.
He's already a very good player and will go onto get even better.
He's already a very good player and will go onto get even better.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44931.msg1363257#msg1363257 date=1310386266]
Let's hope these Mata negotiations come to something.
He's already a very good player and will go onto get even better.
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I'm hoping for a winger (which looks to be downing), anything above and beyond that (mata) is a bonus.
Let's hope these Mata negotiations come to something.
He's already a very good player and will go onto get even better.
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I'm hoping for a winger (which looks to be downing), anything above and beyond that (mata) is a bonus.
brum not giving up without a fight.
So Jon, are we still after Mata?
I'm told we are yeah.
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[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=44931.msg1363283#msg1363283 date=1310389750]
So Jon, are we still after Mata?
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Technically, no.
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How do you know ?
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Technically, I don't.
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[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=44931.msg1363283#msg1363283 date=1310389750]
So Jon, are we still after Mata?
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Technically, no.
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How do you know ?
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Technically, I don't.
Very helpful, thanks Mamma Mia.
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I'm told we are yeah.
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Excellent. That's good enough for me.
I'm told we are yeah.
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Excellent. That's good enough for me.
Rumours from an another site from pretty reliable people is that the deal will be concluded by wednesday.
Medical tonight or tomorrow.
Think this deal will go through wheter people like it or not. I for one is made up that we're finally getting a winger that can get to the byline and hit a decent cross. Fingers crossed.
Medical tonight or tomorrow.
Think this deal will go through wheter people like it or not. I for one is made up that we're finally getting a winger that can get to the byline and hit a decent cross. Fingers crossed.
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