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[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=44931.msg1363064#msg1363064 date=1310358402]
Downing for 20m
No thanks.
I'd rather pay an extra 10-15 and great an exceptional player in.
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Tell us who this exceptional player is DB, and maybe we can then see if he actually wants to play for us.
Downing for 20m
No thanks.
I'd rather pay an extra 10-15 and great an exceptional player in.
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Tell us who this exceptional player is DB, and maybe we can then see if he actually wants to play for us.
That player doesn't have a name, cos he doesn't exist.
As I keep repeating, seemingly every hour.
As I keep repeating, seemingly every hour.
That's as impossible for us to know as its opposite is. We have a board, a Director of Football and a scouting network whose job it is to find these players.
Dmishra made a good post earlier in this thread and named some alternatives. I can't remember who he named or whether they were good, but he went to the effort and I think it's been largely ignored.
The bandwagon appears to be hurtling downhill at full speed carrying a load of "no-one wants to play for us" and "can you name some alternatives, eh? eh?".
People are having their cake and eating it in this thread a little.
The bandwagon appears to be hurtling downhill at full speed carrying a load of "no-one wants to play for us" and "can you name some alternatives, eh? eh?".
People are having their cake and eating it in this thread a little.
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Squiggles
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Not really, Mark.
If you put up an argument against Downing, you are "deluded".
Nobody else in their right mind would like to play for Kenny and alongside Gerrard, Suarez, at Anfield.
If you put up an argument against Downing, you are "deluded".
Nobody else in their right mind would like to play for Kenny and alongside Gerrard, Suarez, at Anfield.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=44931.msg1363152#msg1363152 date=1310376317]
Dmishra made a good post earlier in this thread and named some alternatives. I can't remember who he named or whether they were good, but he went to the effort and I think it's been largely ignored.
The bandwagon appears to be hurtling downhill at full speed carrying a load of "no-one wants to play for us" and "can you name some alternatives, eh? eh?".
People are having their cake and eating it in this thread a little.
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No, I'm pretty sure Mark explained each one & why they were not really an option.
Of course, as Jules correctly points out, we cant know for sure as it's the management & scouts job, but I'd be fucking amazed if they sat down, looked at a list of 10 players, decided who the best was, & said; "Ah, actually, I reckon he wants CL footy, so we'll ignore him, & him, & him, whose 4th on the list? Downing? Yeah, let's sign him without bothering the rest, I'm sure he'll come here."
I have enough faith in the management, not to blindly say I'll agree with every signing, but that I believe they will do their upmost to make sure there isn't a better option we're missing out on & that the player they're investing in is the best option we can get.
Dmishra made a good post earlier in this thread and named some alternatives. I can't remember who he named or whether they were good, but he went to the effort and I think it's been largely ignored.
The bandwagon appears to be hurtling downhill at full speed carrying a load of "no-one wants to play for us" and "can you name some alternatives, eh? eh?".
People are having their cake and eating it in this thread a little.
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No, I'm pretty sure Mark explained each one & why they were not really an option.
Of course, as Jules correctly points out, we cant know for sure as it's the management & scouts job, but I'd be fucking amazed if they sat down, looked at a list of 10 players, decided who the best was, & said; "Ah, actually, I reckon he wants CL footy, so we'll ignore him, & him, & him, whose 4th on the list? Downing? Yeah, let's sign him without bothering the rest, I'm sure he'll come here."
I have enough faith in the management, not to blindly say I'll agree with every signing, but that I believe they will do their upmost to make sure there isn't a better option we're missing out on & that the player they're investing in is the best option we can get.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44931.msg1363159#msg1363159 date=1310376702]
Not really, Mark.
If you put up an argument against Downing, you are "deluded".
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And if you simply point out that he's better than what we have AND interested in playing for us then youre "short-changing the club with an average vastly over-priced footballer".
Whats your point?
Not really, Mark.
If you put up an argument against Downing, you are "deluded".
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And if you simply point out that he's better than what we have AND interested in playing for us then youre "short-changing the club with an average vastly over-priced footballer".
Whats your point?
[quote author=keniget link=topic=44931.msg1363152#msg1363152 date=1310376317]
Dmishra made a good post earlier in this thread and named some alternatives. I can't remember who he named or whether they were good, but he went to the effort and I think it's been largely ignored.
The bandwagon appears to be hurtling downhill at full speed carrying a load of "no-one wants to play for us" and "can you name some alternatives, eh? eh?".
People are having their cake and eating it in this thread a little.
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a lot of the people named by Dmishra are actually attacking midfielders rather than wingers, because we don't have enough of those players.
Dmishra made a good post earlier in this thread and named some alternatives. I can't remember who he named or whether they were good, but he went to the effort and I think it's been largely ignored.
The bandwagon appears to be hurtling downhill at full speed carrying a load of "no-one wants to play for us" and "can you name some alternatives, eh? eh?".
People are having their cake and eating it in this thread a little.
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a lot of the people named by Dmishra are actually attacking midfielders rather than wingers, because we don't have enough of those players.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44931.msg1363159#msg1363159 date=1310376702]
Not really, Mark.
If you put up an argument against Downing, you are "deluded".
Nobody else in their right mind would like to play for Kenny and alongside Gerrard, Suarez, at Anfield.
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Yeah, and if you put up an argument for Downing, you are "deluded".
Loads of difference there.
Not really, Mark.
If you put up an argument against Downing, you are "deluded".
Nobody else in their right mind would like to play for Kenny and alongside Gerrard, Suarez, at Anfield.
[/quote]
Yeah, and if you put up an argument for Downing, you are "deluded".
Loads of difference there.
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Squiggles
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[quote author=grjt link=topic=44931.msg1363161#msg1363161 date=1310376847]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44931.msg1363159#msg1363159 date=1310376702]
Not really, Mark.
If you put up an argument against Downing, you are "deluded".
[/quote]
And if you simply point out that he's better than what we have AND interested in playing for us then youre "short-changing the club with an average vastly over-priced footballer".
Whats your point?
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That really isn't true, because what you said isn't disputable.
Whether we can get better for circa £20M is.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44931.msg1363159#msg1363159 date=1310376702]
Not really, Mark.
If you put up an argument against Downing, you are "deluded".
[/quote]
And if you simply point out that he's better than what we have AND interested in playing for us then youre "short-changing the club with an average vastly over-priced footballer".
Whats your point?
[/quote]
That really isn't true, because what you said isn't disputable.
Whether we can get better for circa £20M is.
S
Squiggles
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[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=44931.msg1363165#msg1363165 date=1310377130]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44931.msg1363159#msg1363159 date=1310376702]
Not really, Mark.
If you put up an argument against Downing, you are "deluded".
Nobody else in their right mind would like to play for Kenny and alongside Gerrard, Suarez, at Anfield.
[/quote]
Yeah, and if you put up an argument for Downing, you are "deluded".
Loads of difference there.
[/quote]
Who has said that?
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44931.msg1363159#msg1363159 date=1310376702]
Not really, Mark.
If you put up an argument against Downing, you are "deluded".
Nobody else in their right mind would like to play for Kenny and alongside Gerrard, Suarez, at Anfield.
[/quote]
Yeah, and if you put up an argument for Downing, you are "deluded".
Loads of difference there.
[/quote]
Who has said that?
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44931.msg1363168#msg1363168 date=1310377261]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=44931.msg1363165#msg1363165 date=1310377130]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44931.msg1363159#msg1363159 date=1310376702]
Not really, Mark.
If you put up an argument against Downing, you are "deluded".
Nobody else in their right mind would like to play for Kenny and alongside Gerrard, Suarez, at Anfield.
[/quote]
Yeah, and if you put up an argument for Downing, you are "deluded".
Loads of difference there.
[/quote]
Who has said that?
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From one side, some are saying that we have to be realistic, from the other people are saying if you want him then you're not being ambitious enough. I don't see much difference, opinions have been polarised from both sides. If you read my posts in particular, I've stressed throughout the thread that I like him but that I think the fee is overinflated and I'm not particularly happy to pay £20m, I think most feel that. I've never suggested anyone is "deluded", I think people are underestimating his abilities and exaggerating at both ends.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=44931.msg1363165#msg1363165 date=1310377130]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44931.msg1363159#msg1363159 date=1310376702]
Not really, Mark.
If you put up an argument against Downing, you are "deluded".
Nobody else in their right mind would like to play for Kenny and alongside Gerrard, Suarez, at Anfield.
[/quote]
Yeah, and if you put up an argument for Downing, you are "deluded".
Loads of difference there.
[/quote]
Who has said that?
[/quote]
From one side, some are saying that we have to be realistic, from the other people are saying if you want him then you're not being ambitious enough. I don't see much difference, opinions have been polarised from both sides. If you read my posts in particular, I've stressed throughout the thread that I like him but that I think the fee is overinflated and I'm not particularly happy to pay £20m, I think most feel that. I've never suggested anyone is "deluded", I think people are underestimating his abilities and exaggerating at both ends.
In out current predicament, Downing is about as good as we can get for his position. In terms of wingers there isn't really much out there.
We don't have champions league football, let alone European football to attract big name overseas players. The plan is to get back in the top 4, get us players that are capable of getting us in there, bit like what Spurs & City did, then once we are back where we belong we can then set our sights higher in terms of our targets.
The fact that Downing prefers us to Arsenal, bodes well in terms of which way Kenny is looking to take this club forward.
Anyone who thinks Kenny can build a Title winning team next season given the strength and depth of others, are clearly deluded and far from being realistic.
Our target is solely to get back into the top 4.. and looking at the state of Arsenal, their is good strong chance we can do that. Anything else is clearly a bonus..
We don't have champions league football, let alone European football to attract big name overseas players. The plan is to get back in the top 4, get us players that are capable of getting us in there, bit like what Spurs & City did, then once we are back where we belong we can then set our sights higher in terms of our targets.
The fact that Downing prefers us to Arsenal, bodes well in terms of which way Kenny is looking to take this club forward.
Anyone who thinks Kenny can build a Title winning team next season given the strength and depth of others, are clearly deluded and far from being realistic.
Our target is solely to get back into the top 4.. and looking at the state of Arsenal, their is good strong chance we can do that. Anything else is clearly a bonus..
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=44931.msg1363160#msg1363160 date=1310376815]
No, I'm pretty sure Mark explained each one & why they were not really an option.
Of course, as Jules correctly points out, we cant know for sure as it's the management & scouts job, but I'd be fucking amazed if they sat down, looked at a list of 10 players, decided who the best was, & said; "Ah, actually, I reckon he wants CL footy, so we'll ignore him, & him, & him, whose 4th on the list? Downing? Yeah, let's sign him without bothering the rest, I'm sure he'll come here."
I have enough faith in the management, not to blindly say I'll agree with every signing, but that I believe they will do their upmost to make sure there isn't a better option we're missing out on & that the player they're investing in is the best option we can get.
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So we know very little about what happens behind the scenes but Mark knew enough to explain why each and every one was not an option?
What was that I was saying about having your cake and eating it?
A lot of people in this thread have made arguments against Downing and I've seen the likes of Mark agreeing with a lot of those points and yet there is this aggressive stance that being unhappy with this signing suddenly means you're deluded or simple enough to be swayed by a foreign name.
As for putting all our faith in management, Rafa planned an entire transfer strategy around Keane and Barry. The management aren't infallible and sometimes the fans opinions are actually worth something... at least in the context of a forum debate.
No, I'm pretty sure Mark explained each one & why they were not really an option.
Of course, as Jules correctly points out, we cant know for sure as it's the management & scouts job, but I'd be fucking amazed if they sat down, looked at a list of 10 players, decided who the best was, & said; "Ah, actually, I reckon he wants CL footy, so we'll ignore him, & him, & him, whose 4th on the list? Downing? Yeah, let's sign him without bothering the rest, I'm sure he'll come here."
I have enough faith in the management, not to blindly say I'll agree with every signing, but that I believe they will do their upmost to make sure there isn't a better option we're missing out on & that the player they're investing in is the best option we can get.
[/quote]
So we know very little about what happens behind the scenes but Mark knew enough to explain why each and every one was not an option?
What was that I was saying about having your cake and eating it?
A lot of people in this thread have made arguments against Downing and I've seen the likes of Mark agreeing with a lot of those points and yet there is this aggressive stance that being unhappy with this signing suddenly means you're deluded or simple enough to be swayed by a foreign name.
As for putting all our faith in management, Rafa planned an entire transfer strategy around Keane and Barry. The management aren't infallible and sometimes the fans opinions are actually worth something... at least in the context of a forum debate.
That's about a fair summary mark.
Would I have been happy to pay 20m? No, not really, it probably is more than I imagine his market value to be.
However, he offers something we simply don't have in the side at all, & that I think is vital to helping balance a team, so I can understand the reasoning behind paying a few million more. Esp when you consider we've just signed Adam for apporx. 3m less than any of us imagined we would.
Being truthful, had we paid 12/13m for Adam, this signing at this price would worry me, cos I'd think we had no clear plan & were just throwing money at players. But the fact it was clear we were prepared to lose out on Adam & ended up paying less than anyone though means that we don't get walked over by every team & we really are overpaying in certain circumstances, not in every single case.
Also the lack of quality left wingers is being massively underestimated IMO. Supply & demand principles work in any business, including football.
Would I have been happy to pay 20m? No, not really, it probably is more than I imagine his market value to be.
However, he offers something we simply don't have in the side at all, & that I think is vital to helping balance a team, so I can understand the reasoning behind paying a few million more. Esp when you consider we've just signed Adam for apporx. 3m less than any of us imagined we would.
Being truthful, had we paid 12/13m for Adam, this signing at this price would worry me, cos I'd think we had no clear plan & were just throwing money at players. But the fact it was clear we were prepared to lose out on Adam & ended up paying less than anyone though means that we don't get walked over by every team & we really are overpaying in certain circumstances, not in every single case.
Also the lack of quality left wingers is being massively underestimated IMO. Supply & demand principles work in any business, including football.
Which is how both sides try to make their points. We can all agree that the price is inflated, no doubt. We sould never have to pay 20 mill for a player that normally would go for 12-14 mill.
But, he's English, was one of the best wingers in the Premiership last season, has 2 years left on his contract and Villa doesnt want to sell. Adding that Young was sold 2 weeks ago aswell doesnt help either.
It by no means jusifies the amount, but it isnt strange that you end up paying top dollar for a player you want.
In respons to Kenis post, I've been one of the posters that asks people to name some alternatives. Just simply because it so easy to say he's not good enough and we can do better. But who? Just because we like a player doesnt mean we can bring him in. And Ill give the King the credit in regards of scouting a lot of players before deciding who can compliment the rest of the squad the best.
But, he's English, was one of the best wingers in the Premiership last season, has 2 years left on his contract and Villa doesnt want to sell. Adding that Young was sold 2 weeks ago aswell doesnt help either.
It by no means jusifies the amount, but it isnt strange that you end up paying top dollar for a player you want.
In respons to Kenis post, I've been one of the posters that asks people to name some alternatives. Just simply because it so easy to say he's not good enough and we can do better. But who? Just because we like a player doesnt mean we can bring him in. And Ill give the King the credit in regards of scouting a lot of players before deciding who can compliment the rest of the squad the best.
[quote author=jono@home link=topic=44931.msg1363173#msg1363173 date=1310377796]
In out current predicament, Downing is about as good as we can get for his position. In terms of wingers there isn't really much out there.
We don't have champions league football, let alone European football to attract big name overseas players. The plan is to get back in the top 4, get us players that are capable of getting us in there, bit like what Spurs & City did, then once we are back where we belong we can then set our sights higher in terms of our targets.
The fact that Downing prefers us to Arsenal, bodes well in terms of which way Kenny is looking to take this club forward.
Anyone who thinks Kenny can build a Title winning team next season given the strength and depth of others, are clearly deluded and far from being realistic.
Our target is solely to get back into the top 4.. and looking at the state of Arsenal, their is good strong chance we can do that. Anything else is clearly a bonus..
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Too much of that is OTT. We just don't know what might be out there in terms of available players, and our form under Kenny would have seen us only a small number of points short of the title if spread over the whole season. In theory there are one or two stronger-looking squads in the Prem, but in practice they failed to show much (if any) superiority to ours last season once the King got his feet under the table. The primary target probably is a top four place, but it's not in the least "deluded" to think we have a chance of doing better than just that.
In out current predicament, Downing is about as good as we can get for his position. In terms of wingers there isn't really much out there.
We don't have champions league football, let alone European football to attract big name overseas players. The plan is to get back in the top 4, get us players that are capable of getting us in there, bit like what Spurs & City did, then once we are back where we belong we can then set our sights higher in terms of our targets.
The fact that Downing prefers us to Arsenal, bodes well in terms of which way Kenny is looking to take this club forward.
Anyone who thinks Kenny can build a Title winning team next season given the strength and depth of others, are clearly deluded and far from being realistic.
Our target is solely to get back into the top 4.. and looking at the state of Arsenal, their is good strong chance we can do that. Anything else is clearly a bonus..
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Too much of that is OTT. We just don't know what might be out there in terms of available players, and our form under Kenny would have seen us only a small number of points short of the title if spread over the whole season. In theory there are one or two stronger-looking squads in the Prem, but in practice they failed to show much (if any) superiority to ours last season once the King got his feet under the table. The primary target probably is a top four place, but it's not in the least "deluded" to think we have a chance of doing better than just that.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=44931.msg1363175#msg1363175 date=1310378111]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=44931.msg1363160#msg1363160 date=1310376815]
No, I'm pretty sure Mark explained each one & why they were not really an option.
Of course, as Jules correctly points out, we cant know for sure as it's the management & scouts job, but I'd be fucking amazed if they sat down, looked at a list of 10 players, decided who the best was, & said; "Ah, actually, I reckon he wants CL footy, so we'll ignore him, & him, & him, whose 4th on the list? Downing? Yeah, let's sign him without bothering the rest, I'm sure he'll come here."
I have enough faith in the management, not to blindly say I'll agree with every signing, but that I believe they will do their upmost to make sure there isn't a better option we're missing out on & that the player they're investing in is the best option we can get.
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So we know very little about what happens behind the scenes but Mark knew enough to explain why each and every one was not an option?
What was that I was saying about having your cake and eating it?
A lot of people in this thread have made arguments against Downing and I've seen the likes of Mark agreeing with a lot of those points and yet there is this aggressive stance that being unhappy with this signing suddenly means you're deluded or simple enough to be swayed by a foreign name.
As for putting all our faith in management, Rafa planned an entire transfer strategy around Keane and Barry. The management aren't infallible and sometimes the fans opinions are actually worth something... at least in the context of a forum debate.
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I think you're over playing the aggression card from your opposition on this topic Keni, do you not think the likes of Molby (with due respect, repeating his tirades over and over) and even Ross to an extent have been equally insistent with their opinions? I don't think there has been much aggression from either side tbf, just passionate opinion on the pros and cons, it's been a good debate. Assuming he's signing, it's down to the player now to prove the points either way.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=44931.msg1363160#msg1363160 date=1310376815]
No, I'm pretty sure Mark explained each one & why they were not really an option.
Of course, as Jules correctly points out, we cant know for sure as it's the management & scouts job, but I'd be fucking amazed if they sat down, looked at a list of 10 players, decided who the best was, & said; "Ah, actually, I reckon he wants CL footy, so we'll ignore him, & him, & him, whose 4th on the list? Downing? Yeah, let's sign him without bothering the rest, I'm sure he'll come here."
I have enough faith in the management, not to blindly say I'll agree with every signing, but that I believe they will do their upmost to make sure there isn't a better option we're missing out on & that the player they're investing in is the best option we can get.
[/quote]
So we know very little about what happens behind the scenes but Mark knew enough to explain why each and every one was not an option?
What was that I was saying about having your cake and eating it?
A lot of people in this thread have made arguments against Downing and I've seen the likes of Mark agreeing with a lot of those points and yet there is this aggressive stance that being unhappy with this signing suddenly means you're deluded or simple enough to be swayed by a foreign name.
As for putting all our faith in management, Rafa planned an entire transfer strategy around Keane and Barry. The management aren't infallible and sometimes the fans opinions are actually worth something... at least in the context of a forum debate.
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I think you're over playing the aggression card from your opposition on this topic Keni, do you not think the likes of Molby (with due respect, repeating his tirades over and over) and even Ross to an extent have been equally insistent with their opinions? I don't think there has been much aggression from either side tbf, just passionate opinion on the pros and cons, it's been a good debate. Assuming he's signing, it's down to the player now to prove the points either way.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=44931.msg1363183#msg1363183 date=1310378591]
The primary target probably is a top four place, but it's not in the least "deluded" to think we have a chance of doing better than just that.
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Agreed, I do think Downing fits well into our system though of keeping it simple and giving us shape (which is arguably one of the things we lacked last season, despite our pass and move qualities), so it's not particularly deluded to think that he can help us improve on that note.
The primary target probably is a top four place, but it's not in the least "deluded" to think we have a chance of doing better than just that.
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Agreed, I do think Downing fits well into our system though of keeping it simple and giving us shape (which is arguably one of the things we lacked last season, despite our pass and move qualities), so it's not particularly deluded to think that he can help us improve on that note.
Wouldn't disagree with any of that, and I wonder how many actually would. For some of us at least, the main sticking-point is the size of the premium we'll have to pay for Downing and the question whether it represents value for money.
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=44931.msg1363189#msg1363189 date=1310379186]
This thread is mental.
Why are some normal posters claiming that it's literally downing or bust?
[/quote] They're not.
This thread is mental.
Why are some normal posters claiming that it's literally downing or bust?
[/quote] They're not.
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=44931.msg1363189#msg1363189 date=1310379186]
This thread is mental.
Why are some normal posters claiming that it's literally downing or bust? There's clearly alternatives out there, to suggest otherwise is ridiculous.
Likewise though, Downing is a half decent player and vastly underrated by some.
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Yes it is.
Imagine what will happen if we actually sign him!
I'm not concerned about the fee personally. Without knowing what the accounts look like and what is available for transfers in total then I don't know how anyone can be stressing over it to be honest.
This thread is mental.
Why are some normal posters claiming that it's literally downing or bust? There's clearly alternatives out there, to suggest otherwise is ridiculous.
Likewise though, Downing is a half decent player and vastly underrated by some.
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Yes it is.
Imagine what will happen if we actually sign him!
I'm not concerned about the fee personally. Without knowing what the accounts look like and what is available for transfers in total then I don't know how anyone can be stressing over it to be honest.
did barry hand in a transfer request when we were after him? the reason I ask is we walked away from the barry deal, maybe downing is reluctant to hand in a request in case we walk away from this deal as well.
The really top alternatives out there would probably cost in the same region as Downing or much more, the question is if they would want to join us. We cant offer CL footie at the moment and that is a big big factor for most players these days.
NZogbia is an option. Mental, but talented. 10 mill is the rumoured fee. Questionable attitude which isnt something KD and DC are to fond of if recent interviews are to be believed.
Bastos: Looks likely to join Juve, but his agent said there is a lot of interst. Barca, inter and chelsea. Older than Downing and would cost 13-14 mill. Good player though.
Di Maria: could be available. Will be very expencive. Id love him here, but would take ome convincing regarding to CL footie. Rumour is Chelsea are after him.
Mata: will be very expencive. Would be a great signing for whoever gets him, but looks likely to stay in Spain.
Payet: moved to Lille
Gervinho: moved to arsenal
Young: moved to utd
Hazard: looks likely to stay in france
Anyone else? Bastos is probably the closest one Id imagine.
NZogbia is an option. Mental, but talented. 10 mill is the rumoured fee. Questionable attitude which isnt something KD and DC are to fond of if recent interviews are to be believed.
Bastos: Looks likely to join Juve, but his agent said there is a lot of interst. Barca, inter and chelsea. Older than Downing and would cost 13-14 mill. Good player though.
Di Maria: could be available. Will be very expencive. Id love him here, but would take ome convincing regarding to CL footie. Rumour is Chelsea are after him.
Mata: will be very expencive. Would be a great signing for whoever gets him, but looks likely to stay in Spain.
Payet: moved to Lille
Gervinho: moved to arsenal
Young: moved to utd
Hazard: looks likely to stay in france
Anyone else? Bastos is probably the closest one Id imagine.
Somebody hit the nail accidentally on the head earlier IF the signing is to increase our attacking options and provide width but at the same time not really to propel us to a challenge, as we really only will be able to attract good players if we finish top four and therefore that should be the target.... why not buy Albrighton? He's young and pacy and looked reasonably skillful.
Seeing as we cant buy or dont need that extra class right now how about buying a player who will increase in value!
I reckon you could probably get him for a lot less than they want for Downing. Job done and it makes financial sense as well.
Seeing as we cant buy or dont need that extra class right now how about buying a player who will increase in value!
I reckon you could probably get him for a lot less than they want for Downing. Job done and it makes financial sense as well.
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Somebody hit the nail accidentally on the head earlier IF the signing is to increase our attacking options and provide width but at the same time not really to propel us to a challenge, as we really only will be able to attract good players if we finish top four and therefore that should be the target.... why not buy Albrighton? He's young and pacy and looked reasonably skillful.
Seeing as we cant buy or dont need that extra class right now how about buying a player who will increase in value!
I reckon you could probably get him for a lot less than they want for Downing. Job done and it makes financial sense as well.
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....for a player that has had half a good season in the premiership
Somebody hit the nail accidentally on the head earlier IF the signing is to increase our attacking options and provide width but at the same time not really to propel us to a challenge, as we really only will be able to attract good players if we finish top four and therefore that should be the target.... why not buy Albrighton? He's young and pacy and looked reasonably skillful.
Seeing as we cant buy or dont need that extra class right now how about buying a player who will increase in value!
I reckon you could probably get him for a lot less than they want for Downing. Job done and it makes financial sense as well.
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....for a player that has had half a good season in the premiership
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