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Will he be with Atletico next season? IMHO, Barcelona, Man Utd and may be even PSG and Monaco could all bid for his services.
 
He doesn't play tika-taka, so Barca is out. I don't see why he would leave Atletico for Man U right now - the "only" thing they can offer is money. PSG/Monaco seems the most likely destination if he leaves. Man City might sack Pellegrini if they fail to win the league, so that is another option.
 
IF they win the league and/or CL, he should leave (for the right club and project). As posted by @studsup before, Atletico aren't solid financially. They'll almost certainly lose players in the next transfer window and what more can Simeone achieve there (he took over when they were 10th in the league in 2011)? Don't think they're stable enough to build a solid future consistently challenging for honours.
 
He's fucking brilliant.
If he ends up down the east lancs road I'll be sick.
 
i asked semi joking in the match thread but in the interest of debate i'll ask again , Rodgers or Simeone ?

obviously it's hard to quantify but if you were to ask me to rank them then i'd have simeone ahead at this stage . He's won things already in Argentina and what he's doing with A.Madrid is pretty special . He's won the Copa del Rey , europa league and even if they falter now they've had a pretty amazing season .
I also think he's tactically just ahead ,they've a better balance between defence and attack .

Although obviously if rodgers wins the league in a few weeks my rankings will change.
 
Why not stay and make them a power house?

I think the question is whether they're able to, because of their financial situation. Aren't they like 500m euros in deb? They have to keep selling their top stars and buying the next star "cheap" before the replacement fully blossoms - there's always the risk that at some point, they'll miss a step with one of these buys and and boom, they fall out of the CL and lose that revenue stream, and things then get worse from there.

At some point, Simeone might just think the race is rigged against him and decide to leave.
 
They're 500m in debt and don't have the means to live with that debt. Which means they 100% have to sell players every year.

I think the question is whether they're able to, because of their financial situation. Aren't they like 500m euros in deb? They have to keep selling their top stars and buying the next star "cheap" before the replacement fully blossoms - there's always the risk that at some point, they'll miss a step with one of these buys and and boom, they fall out of the CL and lose that revenue stream, and things then get worse from there.

At some point, Simeone might just think the race is rigged against him and decide to leave.


That I didn't know. Just thought there was a chance of them turning into 2000-2004 Valencia for a few years.
 
That I didn't know. Just thought there was a chance of them turning into 2000-2004 Valencia for a few years.

Who knows, they still might, and if they do, Simeone deserves a set of medals. While Barca and Real can mainly keep their squad from season to season, Simeone will have to keep rebuilding every (other) season to keep up because of the constraints he's working with. A bit like Klopp at Dortmund maybe. Unless he has Klopp's stubbornness and single-mindedness, he might just decide one day that the extra efforts involved just aren't worth it.
 
Atleticos wage bill is 54 mill £.
In compariaon, QPRs is 78 mill £.

Think he'll stay tbh. They'll get a lot of money from the CL and they're building a new stadium.
Things are looking good for Atletico.
 
Atletico just need one bad season and the will be on the brink and having to strip their assets as every third la liga challenger encounters.

They are punching above their weight and I am sure he knows that. I would argue there is no better time to leave a club than when they are top dogs in Europe, especially when maintaining that level of performance is going to be such a struggle.
 
Atletico just need one bad season and the will be on the brink and having to strip their assets as every third la liga challenger encounters.

They are punching above their weight and I am sure he knows that. I would argue there is no better time to leave a club than when they are top dogs in Europe, especially when maintaining that level of performance is going to be such a struggle.

I concur. There's definitely a chance of them doing a Deportivo La Coruna or Valencia if they're not careful.
 
Atleticos wage bill is 54 mill £.
In compariaon, QPRs is 78 mill £.

Think he'll stay tbh. They'll get a lot of money from the CL and they're building a new stadium.
Things are looking good for Atletico.
500 million Hansern.
I imagine they'll struggle to pay the interest on that with the CL money, after player wages, bonuses, other costs are taken into account.
They have to sell their best players. They'll definitely lose Costa and unless they get Courtois as part of the deal, they'll struggle to keep him too.
 
[article=http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2914/champions-league/2014/04/30/4785365/why-debt-ridden-atletico-madrid-should-not-be-considered-a]30 Apr 2014 09:50:00
Vast levels of borrowing and a lack of transparency in the transfer market over the last 20 years make the Atleti story far less romantic than some would have us believe

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By Peter Staunton

There are a fair few fans across the continent willing Atletico Madrid to go even further in this season's Champions League as Diego Simeone's team prepare to take on Chelsea in the second leg of their semi-final on Wednesday night. Their evolution from Europa League winners to Champions League contenders under the Argentine coach has earned them a great deal of respect.

Simeone has forged a committed and diligent unit capable of disrupting the very best teams in the world. That is the company in which they belong after taking four points from Real Madrid in La Liga - as well as beating them in last season's Copa del Rey final - and eliminating Barcelona from Europe this season. As things stand, they are favourites to win the Spanish top flight too.

This, however, cannot be seen as a defiant victory for the little man in the face of the immense strength of the Clasico duo. While Simeone's on-field turnaround merits credit, Atletico are not deserving of their billing of people's champions. That would be to whitewash their recent history. The capital club have come to represent, in recent years, much which is troubling about the modern game: third-party ownership, spiralling debts and an abdication of responsibility.

Atletico are Spain's third-biggest team in terms of revenue and support but have struggled to keep their house in order since converting to a PLC in 1992. Ever since Jesus Gil became chief shareholder, Atletico's financial management has been open to question.

This is a club that has shown disregard for the regulations and fiscal prudence throughout its modern history. They were relegated in 2000 not long after their offices were raided in the infamous Caso Atletico. That eventually led to Gil's jail sentence of three-and-a-half years as well as punishments for Enrique Cerezo and Miguel Angel Gil Marin - who remain at the club. Following relegation, they simply stopped paying their taxes for two years. In that way they avoided around €46 million (£37.7m) worth as they expedited their escape from the Segunda Division.


Godfather of modern Atletico | Jesus Gil was majority shareholder and died in 2004

By 2011 they owed a scarcely conceivable €517 million (£424.3m) to creditors - including as much as €171m (£140.3m) to the tax authorities alone. The Spanish government could have done more to call in the debt instead of offering Atletico a favourable rate of 4.5 per cent interest per annum while they paid off €15m (£12.3m) of their tax bill every year.

Perversely, the economic meltdown in Spain, where unemployment stands at around 26%, gave Atletico the opportunity to alleviate their own predicament. "The government cannot demand payment without crippling clubs and leaving supporters very upset," economics and finance professor Jose Maria Gay told Die Welt in 2012. "Considering the situation our country is facing, it is unreasonable to start introducing dysfunctional steps into the championship that could affect its image, which has a commercial value."

That rationale meant that laxity prevailed. Uli Hoeness, then president of Bayern Munich, expressed his frustration when referring to the EU bailout of Spain in 2012. "This is unthinkable," he said. "We pay hundreds of millions to get them out of the sh*t, and then the clubs don't pay their debts."

Not paying their debts was Atletico's modus operandi under Gil. Although they have finally begun to pay down their tax debt, in theory, they will have not paid what they owe until some time early in the next decade. Instead of taking it on the chin and, perhaps, living within their means, Atletico simply carry on spending. Uefa temporarily withheld their Europa League prize money for breaching Financial Fair Play regulations in 2012. Atletico were among the first teams to be sanctioned although their punishment was eventually overturned. It is not difficult to see why they came on the radar.

Not long after sending Sergio Kun Aguero on his way to Manchester City to stave off the tax man, a deal worth €40m (£32.8m) to bring in Radamel Falcao from Porto was agreed. It was apparent that Atletico were unable to fund the deal themselves and so the Doyen Sports Group - a hedge fund - reportedly picked up around 50% of the fee.

Falcao may well have enjoyed his best years at Atletico but they never deserved to have him. They could not afford it from within their means. That didn't stop them. Falcao was not the only one. According to one investigation in 2013, it was found that only six players on their first-team books were owned outright by the club. Despite the circumstances in which they found themselves, Atleti still spent over €160m (£131.3m) net on transfer fees from 2002 to 2009. To chase deals for the best players in the world while owing so much in back payments smacks of astonishing hubris.

IN NUMBERS
Atletico's financial irresponsibility
1992 Atletico convert to PLC
£48k Unpaid wage claim filed by Diego
£33m Spent on Falcao despite tax debt
£140m Sum owed to tax authorities
£424m Total owed at peak in 2011

Even being assisted by Doyen in paying for Falcao, Atletico could still not maintain their obligations to Porto. The Portuguese club, according to reports, were close to asking Fifa for a resolution when Los Rojiblancos fell behind in their instalments. Shortly after that complaint, Doyen's name began appearing on the Atleti kit.

And on the subject of kit sponsors, Atletico are currently into their second agreement with the Azerbaijan tourist board - a deal which raised eyebrows. It paid a reputed €12m (£9.8m) for an initial 18-month deal. The well-documented human rights abuses in that country stirred debate about the suitability of this sponsor.

Furthermore, in 2011 it was also reported that Atletico owed €52m (£42.7m) in wages to their own club staff. That was around 81% of the total wage bill. During his last spell at the club, playmaker Diego filed an unpaid wages complaint for around €59,000 (£48,400).

There is, at the moment, a sense of stability around the Estadio Vicente Calderon ahead of the club's move to the Olympic Stadium in 2016. This is, however, an empire built on rickety foundations. How long will Simeone be around? Will he be afforded the funds to strengthen the team? Will their best performers like Aguero, David de Gea and Diego Costa be continually sold to keep the wolves from the door?

This is likely to be Atletico's one and only shot at the big time at home and abroad for a long period. They best make the most of it because they spent long enough living the high life while someone else picked up the tab. Austerity looms on the horizon.[/article]
 
A.Madrid have been a ridiculous Newcastle type club of sorts for a long time (though perhaps the same could be said for a lot of Spanish clubs) and even though they enjoyed some success before Simeone arrived, what he's done is amazing.

It seems like the government in Spain makes life easy for clubs there so who knows how pressing the whole debt thing is. Their current level is obviously not possible to sustain... I'm wondering where Simeone could end up though. For some reason England feels unlikely at the moment.
 
The ability to put together a good squad capable of competing at the highest levels of European football relatively cheaply must be of interest to the 2 Milan teams - if he's unlikely to get the Real or Barca job.
 
Atleticos wage bill is 54 mill £.
In compariaon, QPRs is 78 mill £.

Think he'll stay tbh. They'll get a lot of money from the CL and they're building a new stadium.
Things are looking good for Atletico.

Surely that means that if they win la liga and the CL the players will want more. The issue with current football is that the previously established clubs like Real. Barca, Utd, Juve, us and others have always been around. The likes of Atleti, Marseille, Red Star and others come and go. You almost need to change history to be part of the original elite.
 
Simeone will stay at Atletico for the forseeable future. On the cusp of 2 coveted trophies and beating Real and Barca to both will give him cult status.
 
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