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Depression

Get well soon. I'm sure the long winter nights don't help much, have you ever tried that therapy they have in Scandinavia that they use in the winter? Perhaps that Scando Sunny can fill you in.

Also, my advice is to avoid the football thread after a loss!
 
You are a top bloke Dan.
Hopefully you have similarly good people around you that will help you get through this.
Good luck with it mate.

Regarding the sleep apnoea mask, my brothers partner used one for a number of years with much success but her need for it declined and eventually disappeared as she lost weight.
Your fitness regime may provide the cure to your sleep apnoea before you get to use a mask.
 
S/O, are you coming out Saturday night. I'll take you the Lappies kid, that will sort you out . Who is with me!

GL
 
Closest I've ever come to depression was when I was off work for a year. I spent the whole time moping around trying to find work, arguing with my family etc.... I wasn't depressed as such (more a bad case of being "fed up") so I'm no expert. But I wish you all the best, SO. Hope you get through it ok 🙂
 
Yeah, I've had the sessions and stuff sumo, so good luck to you and just keep the people you care about close
 
I've been vainly trying to deal with this for the last two years.

Tried the meds, tried changing jobs, went through a bout of alchoholism, pushed people away, hermited up, saw a shrink....

It fucking blows, and if I don't find a way out soon I am going to lose the only things of any importance to me.
 
Sorry to hear that - in my thoughts and prayers.

Are there charities you can approach for further advice? I have a little experience of dealing with them in other contexts and they can sometimes offer fresh ideas and practical help which medical services either wouldn't think of or can't easily access.
 
Sorry to hear that - in my thoughts and prayers.

Are there charities you can approach for further advice? I have a little experience of dealing with them in other contexts and they can sometimes offer fresh ideas and practical help which medical services either wouldn't think of or can't easily access.

Thanks JJ. I've never considered it, but doing actual charity work is one of the few things that I find I can sink myself into and feel satisfied with.

I've been volunteering every weekend since October doing whatever I can and it's the only thing that seems to help, but only for the duration.

I think I could kick this if I was able to commit myself fully to things I actually care about. However poor decisions over the last decade has left me financially trapped in a corporate world that I absolutely detest.

Oh, and I blame LFC of course. A fucking title would go a long way to making some of us happier!
 
Helping others is certainly a good thing to do, not least for the reasons you describe, but what I had in mind was you approaching charities dealing with your kind of difficulty and seeing what kind of support and advice they may be able to offer. It's a different kind of help from the kind you might get from the medics, and you may find it suits you better.
 
Helping others is certainly a good thing to do, not least for the reasons you describe, but what I had in mind was you approaching charities dealing with your kind of difficulty and seeing what kind of support and advice they may be able to offer. It's a different kind of help from the kind you might get from the medics, and you may find it suits you better.

Yep, I realised that. I'll look for something like that - have never noticed any organisations doing it here.

Thanks mate.
 
I've been through it, although I had no idea at the time. I contracted Glanjular Fever in the last year of my degree - 1 month before my finals. It was a severe case, which lasted for 9 months. My throat swelled up hugely. I couldn't eat anything other than ice cube. I lost 4 stone in weight. I couldn't talk for 3 months. I hadn't told my university, which was a huge mistake, but I was thinking clearly. I was away from home, and I felt unable to tell them what I was going through because I got it into my head that they'd think I was bullshitting and dropping out. That year I was financially screwed - no loan left, unable to work, maxed out two overdrafts, a GF left me, no family support, the university telling me they wouldn't allow me back in to finish, etc. I ended up living in Kenny, in this mad, foreign house because it was the only place I could afford. All this from one illness...which in turn led on to another.

The resulting depression, I think, lasted for well over a year after that. It kind of creeps up on you. In fact it was only afterwards I realised I had it. I was a complete mess. Spending most of was cursing my luck, but mostly myself. In fact I think I spent a lot of that time on here, posting a huge amount, which no doubt helped. I'm not sure how I got through it, there's certainly little tips or guidance I can offer other than perseverance and hard work. I went through a long appeal process and the university finally let me back in so I could finish. I worked my arse off ages to pay off the 6 grand debt I accumulated during that time. I saw that, and still do, as hugely beneficial. I've kept a letter from both banks on my fridge telling me that I've got no more to pay. That was cleansing.

Depression was a defining part of my life. Before all that I'd always felt a bit lost, faceless, lacking in identity and self-assurance. That's not the case any more. Excuse the cringe, but It definitely made me from a boy into a man. After all that, I've now moved away from my law degree to go into Occupational Therapy, where I'll be helping people every single day of my life and I can't wait.

I think your mind slowly figures it out. It's a very personal illness - nobody could have done or said anything to help me at that time and you just have to back yourself to get through it.

  • Try and help others throughout your experience. It takes ages to get to the point where you're ready to help yourself. Helping others gets you through. I worked for Oxfam throughout that time, which at least gave me some self-worth.
  • Tackle the root cause
  • However difficult, don't push anyone away. Be honest and accepting of your condition.
Thoughts are with you all.
 
Hope you find a way to beat your demons too MM.
If it is any help it is harder to drive people away from these boards than it probably is in real life so feel free to do your venting here.
 
I've been through it, although I had no idea at the time. I contracted Glanjular Fever in the last year of my degree - 1 month before my finals. It was a severe case, which lasted for 9 months. My throat swelled up hugely. I couldn't eat anything other than ice cube. I lost 4 stone in weight. I couldn't talk for 3 months. I hadn't told my university, which was a huge mistake, but I was thinking clearly. I was away from home, and I felt unable to tell them what I was going through because I got it into my head that they'd think I was bullshitting and dropping out. That year I was financially screwed - no loan left, unable to work, maxed out two overdrafts, a GF left me, no family support, the university telling me they wouldn't allow me back in to finish, etc. I ended up living in Kenny, in this mad, foreign house because it was the only place I could afford. All this from one illness...which in turn led on to another.

The resulting depression, I think, lasted for well over a year after that. It kind of creeps up on you. In fact it was only afterwards I realised I had it. I was a complete mess. Spending most of was cursing my luck, but mostly myself. In fact I think I spent a lot of that time on here, posting a huge amount, which no doubt helped. I'm not sure how I got through it, there's certainly little tips or guidance I can offer other than perseverance and hard work. I went through a long appeal process and the university finally let me back in so I could finish. I worked my arse off ages to pay off the 6 grand debt I accumulated during that time. I saw that, and still do, as hugely beneficial. I've kept a letter from both banks on my fridge telling me that I've got no more to pay. That was cleansing.

Depression was a defining part of my life. Before all that I'd always felt a bit lost, faceless, lacking in identity and self-assurance. That's not the case any more. Excuse the cringe, but It definitely made me from a boy into a man. After all that, I've now moved away from my law degree to go into Occupational Therapy, where I'll be helping people every single day of my life and I can't wait.

I think your mind slowly figures it out. It's a very personal illness - nobody could have done or said anything to help me at that time and you just have to back yourself to get through it.

  • Try and help others throughout your experience. It takes ages to get to the point where you're ready to help yourself. Helping others gets you through. I worked for Oxfam throughout that time, which at least gave me some self-worth.
  • Tackle the root cause
  • However difficult, don't push anyone away. Be honest and accepting of your condition.
Thoughts are with you all.

Good post. Happy that you got through it and ended up better for it.

Your 3 points are pretty spot on in my opinion. It's the second one that I am battling with. I know the cause, I know the solution, but even when I break it down to the simplest of steps, it's not long before I hit a wall and give up feeling completely overwhelmed.

I used to be that guy... the one who when he says he's gonna do something, it's done.

I'm now the opposite of that. I finish nothing that I start. I regularly don't even bother starting... and then the self loathing hits.
 
Hope no-one minds me bumping this but this fits well in here.

Got diagnosed with depression this morning, taken a long time for me to actually do anything about it like see a doctor but i feel better now i've taken the first steps. I guess when there's so many things you feel you need to do to sort your problems and you try to sort them all at once it makes it worse which is what i found out.

I've got a sleep disorder which this seems linked to and thats related to my weight so i'm hoping to carry on the progress and improve my sleep and stuff, which should make me happier. Waking up morning after morning when you haven't slept and your mind is playing tricks on you is horrible. Months on end of hearing the alarm but being so tired and unhappy that you just can't do anything. I don't end up going in to do work but it doesn't mean i'd just sit off. Lying there feeling all this self-hatred but feeling like there's nothing you can do.

Thankfully i've got good friends who've helped me to try and sort this mess out bit by bit.

I have a sleep disorder (undiagnosed) but not the attendant depression thank God. Just really fucking tired all the time.

Good luck SO, you'll be fine. Maybe if those red fuckers start winning it will help.
 
I have a sleep disorder (undiagnosed)

It's quite likely to be sleep apnoea (or apnea as the Americans say). The drill is that you "present" with the problem at the GP's surgery. The GP should refer you to a hospital for a "sleep study" which involves spending the night wired up to various monitoring devices. The results, if positive, will be that your sleep has been constantly disturbed by breathing obstruction related to snoring.

There's a major snag here, in that when I was informed of this diagnosis, the doctor told me that until treatment commenced, I was not allowed to drive. I was therefore uninsured and had to write to my insurers and the DVLA to notify them of my condition. As it would have taken months to be sorted out by the NHS, I went private.

In some cases the medics recommend an operation to sort it out, but I don't believe the success rate is that high. The most reliable treatment is a CPAP machine which is a small device that pumps air through your nose through a nasal mask all night. That sounds unpleasant but you get used to it pretty quickly.
 
I have a sleep disorder (undiagnosed) but not the attendant depression thank God. Just really fucking tired all the time.

Good luck SO, you'll be fine. Maybe if those red fuckers start winning it will help.

I was diagnosed with an anxiety disorder at the beginning of the year, and my main issue was inability to sleep. I tried low dose meds for about nine months, and I had no trouble sleeping but I had difficulty waking up and functioning at 100%. It got me through my exams though, so it was a means to an end.

Feel much better now I'm back to sleeping naturally
 
Cheers for the kind works, and MM I found that finding a hobby unrelated to your work, your home life and everything else is good. I joined an eco group and started going to some protests and it was good to be able to go to something which was completely new; away from everywhere where you felt you didn't want to be.

I'm not sure how easy things like that are to come across but if you can think of a thing you've always meant to do but felt you couldn't or just couldn't push yourself to do then if you can make a small step towards it you can hopefully feel better.
 
I've been through it, although I had no idea at the time. I contracted Glanjular Fever in the last year of my degree - 1 month before my finals. It was a severe case, which lasted for 9 months. My throat swelled up hugely. I couldn't eat anything other than ice cube. I lost 4 stone in weight. I couldn't talk for 3 months. I hadn't told my university, which was a huge mistake, but I was thinking clearly. I was away from home, and I felt unable to tell them what I was going through because I got it into my head that they'd think I was bullshitting and dropping out. That year I was financially screwed - no loan left, unable to work, maxed out two overdrafts, a GF left me, no family support, the university telling me they wouldn't allow me back in to finish, etc. I ended up living in Kenny, in this mad, foreign house because it was the only place I could afford. All this from one illness...which in turn led on to another.

The resulting depression, I think, lasted for well over a year after that. It kind of creeps up on you. In fact it was only afterwards I realised I had it. I was a complete mess. Spending most of was cursing my luck, but mostly myself. In fact I think I spent a lot of that time on here, posting a huge amount, which no doubt helped. I'm not sure how I got through it, there's certainly little tips or guidance I can offer other than perseverance and hard work. I went through a long appeal process and the university finally let me back in so I could finish. I worked my arse off ages to pay off the 6 grand debt I accumulated during that time. I saw that, and still do, as hugely beneficial. I've kept a letter from both banks on my fridge telling me that I've got no more to pay. That was cleansing.

Depression was a defining part of my life. Before all that I'd always felt a bit lost, faceless, lacking in identity and self-assurance. That's not the case any more. Excuse the cringe, but It definitely made me from a boy into a man. After all that, I've now moved away from my law degree to go into Occupational Therapy, where I'll be helping people every single day of my life and I can't wait.

I think your mind slowly figures it out. It's a very personal illness - nobody could have done or said anything to help me at that time and you just have to back yourself to get through it.

  • Try and help others throughout your experience. It takes ages to get to the point where you're ready to help yourself. Helping others gets you through. I worked for Oxfam throughout that time, which at least gave me some self-worth.
  • Tackle the root cause
  • However difficult, don't push anyone away. Be honest and accepting of your condition.
Thoughts are with you all.

Good points, i think the last one hard, to cling on to the friends you had and not alienate them.

Finding the root cause is the most difficult bit. I've put it down to my weight which has always affected me, and that's what i'm trying my best to sort out.

I'm glad you got through it.
 
Sorry to hear SO and MM are struggling with this too. You guys are great. It is refreshing to see so much openness on the subject, too. I've not been depressed myself but my mum has suffered with it for most of her adult life, and is in a remarkable place considering where she was and what she's been through. I hope everyone going through this has the love and support that she's had. Take it from me, with time, it can and does get better.
 
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