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I'm saying not that Kenny doesn't deserve a gong - far from it - but that IMO Shanks (who envisaged the modern LFC and kicked it off, from not very much) and Paisley (who took the club on to extraordinary success) deserve it equally.
 
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Knighthoods are shit.
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agreed. i hate the idea, and i hate the royal family and all the assoicated privelege and corruption of the honours system. the idea that i should be expected to call some other bastard 'Sir'! Fuck off!
 
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[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=44115.msg1322220#msg1322220 date=1303857531]
Knighthoods are shit.
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agreed. i hate the idea, and i hate the royal family and all the assoicated privelege and corruption of the honours system. the idea that i should be expected to call some other bastard 'Sir'! Fuck off!
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What he said. That being the case however, if you can't beat them, you might as well join them and i think that Kenny deserves to be at least on the level dished out to many a 'worthy' simian. Whether he'd consider himself above most of those cunts i don't know.
 
Exactly, the reason they're rubbish is because they're so devalued..they've very rarely been awarded deservingly, but I think you English need to see how much worse it can get.

My country has loads of royals; their primary function is to drain the nation's coffers, ie whatever the racist ruling government hasnt already stolen. OUr royals sell titles to the highest bidder, so much so that their private secretaries have been known to call up businessmen to tell them if you want 'x' title it will cost you 'y' in currency.

Kenny Dalglish is more deserving than many other recipients, as are Bill Shankly and Bob Paisley.
 
tbh i just don't like any sort of titles instinctively, because they seem to perpetuate the class system which i don't like. i suppose it's nice that people can be recognised for good works, but i'd be much happier with it if we first abolished the monarchy and the aristocracy.
 
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Knighthoods are shit.
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agreed. i hate the idea, and i hate the royal family and all the assoicated privelege and corruption of the honours system. the idea that i should be expected to call some other bastard 'Sir'! Fuck off!
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What he said. That being the case however, if you can't beat them, you might as well join them and i think that Kenny deserves to be at least on the level dished out to many a 'worthy' simian. Whether he'd consider himself above most of those cunts i don't know.
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What's that manuscript or is it a roll in your avatar?
 
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[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=44115.msg1322220#msg1322220 date=1303857531]
Knighthoods are shit.
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agreed. i hate the idea, and i hate the royal family and all the assoicated privelege and corruption of the honours system. the idea that i should be expected to call some other bastard 'Sir'! Fuck off!
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With you both.
 
Lifelong Reds fan Steve Rotheram MP, who represents Walton, was calling on his Parliamentary colleagues to sign an Early Day Motion which calls for the Anfield legend to be knighted.

It says: "Any award would be a fitting tribute to the Hillsborough families' unstinting campaign for justice for the 96."

Mr Rotheram, a Liverpool season ticket holder, only avoided being caught up in the 1989 disaster when he swapped his ticket for the Leppings Lane End 15 minutes before kick-off.

He told the ECHO: "The idea came out of a conversation I was having with Margaret Aspinall [chairwoman of the Hillsborough Family Support Group] about a way of recognising Kenny Dalglish.

"It is not only for his outstanding playing and managerial career, but also the charity work he has done with his wife, Marina, for breast cancer support and what he did after Hillsborough.

"It is common knowledge it affected him deeply at the time.

"Nowadays, you would receive counselling, but there he was going to four or five funerals a day and in a way, he was helping to counsel those bereaved families.

"I cannot guarantee this Early Day Motion will mean he gets a knighthood, but it is part of a process which can get the ball rolling and hopefully bring it to the attention of the people who make those decisions.

"I know for a fact there is one Tory and one Lib-Dem who have signed it. I am hoping it will get cross-party support and support from across the whole country.

"Don't forget, [Liverpool FC legends] Bob Paisley and Bill Shankly never got a knighthood whereas [Manchester United legends] Alex Ferguson, Matt Busby and Bobby Charlton all did.

"Liverpool fans have always felt slighted by that.

"It is a shame the Number 10 petitions website was shut down because if you put up a petition for Kenny Dalglish to be knighted, you would have hundreds of thousands of signatories in days."

Mrs Aspinall, whose son, James, 18, died at Hillsborough, said: "When Steve mentioned it to us, he asked how we would feel, and we said we would be delighted.

"In the early days, Kenny did an awful lot for the families.

"I have met Kenny a couple of times, not on group business, but I have spoken to him and he comes across as a real gentleman.

"Nothing is too much trouble for him."
 
Kenny is the champion and King of the people. The title will be recognition for his achievements and he deserves it but he'll never consider himself to be above or better than anybody.
 
What Kenny said to Robinson (as he was coming on in the Arsenal game):

Kenny "Whats up son? You look like you're gonna be sick!"
Robinson :"I feel like I'm gonna be sick!"
Kenny :"Well dont be sick on the pitch!"
 
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What Kenny said to Robinson (as he was coming on in the Arsenal game):

Kenny "Whats up son? You look like you're gonna be sick!"
Robinson :"I feel like I'm gonna be sick!"
Kenny :"Well dont be sick on the pitch!"
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Haha- where did you get that from Gerry?
 
Thirteen MPs have signed a Commons motion calling for Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish to be knighted.

The motion was tabled by Liverpool Walton MP Steve Rotheram because of what he said was his "outstanding contribution" to British football.

Mr Rotheram raised the issue two weeks ago, on the 22nd anniversary of the Hillsborough disaster.

The motion said it would be a "fitting tribute" to the families of the 96 fans who were killed.

Dalglish was manager on 15 April 1989, when the Liverpool fans were crushed to death at an FA Cup semi-final.

He earned gratitude and respect for the way he represented the city and club in the aftermath of the tragedy.

Dalglish, now 60, helped ensure the club was represented at all of the fans' funerals and attended many of them in person.

He resigned as manager of the club in 1991, but returned in January, following the departure of Roy Hodgson.

Mr Rotheram was asked by families of those fans killed to put down an Early Day Motion requesting the honour.

The motion, to be published on Wednesday, has been signed by Labour MPs Derek Twigg; Dave Watts; Maria Eagle; Alison McGovern; Russell Brown; Bill Esterson; Stephen Twigg; Luciana Berger; Louise Ellman; Joe Benton and Clive Betts, as well as Conservative MP Therese Coffey, a Liverpool supporter
 
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What Kenny said to Robinson (as he was coming on in the Arsenal game):

Kenny "Whats up son? You look like you're gonna be sick!"
Robinson :"I feel like I'm gonna be sick!"
Kenny :"Well dont be sick on the pitch!"
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Haha- where did you get that from Gerry?
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Got it emailed on, so no idea whether it's true or not.

But it sounds about right.
 
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Thirteen MPs have signed a Commons motion calling for Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish to be knighted.

The motion was tabled by Liverpool Walton MP Steve Rotheram because of what he said was his "outstanding contribution" to British football.

Mr Rotheram raised the issue two weeks ago, on the 22nd anniversary of the Hillsborough disaster.

The motion said it would be a "fitting tribute" to the families of the 96 fans who were killed.

Dalglish was manager on 15 April 1989, when the Liverpool fans were crushed to death at an FA Cup semi-final.

He earned gratitude and respect for the way he represented the city and club in the aftermath of the tragedy.

Dalglish, now 60, helped ensure the club was represented at all of the fans' funerals and attended many of them in person.

He resigned as manager of the club in 1991, but returned in January, following the departure of Roy Hodgson.

Mr Rotheram was asked by families of those fans killed to put down an Early Day Motion requesting the honour.

The motion, to be published on Wednesday, has been signed by Labour MPs Derek Twigg; Dave Watts; Maria Eagle; Alison McGovern; Russell Brown; Bill Esterson; Stephen Twigg; Luciana Berger; Louise Ellman; Joe Benton and Clive Betts, as well as Conservative MP Therese Coffey, a Liverpool supporter
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I think some of those Labour MPs are from Manchester, in which case fair play to them for signing.
 
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[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=44115.msg1322220#msg1322220 date=1303857531]
Knighthoods are shit.
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agreed. i hate the idea, and i hate the royal family and all the assoicated privelege and corruption of the honours system. the idea that i should be expected to call some other bastard 'Sir'! Fuck off!
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What he said. That being the case however, if you can't beat them, you might as well join them and i think that Kenny deserves to be at least on the level dished out to many a 'worthy' simian. Whether he'd consider himself above most of those cunts i don't know.
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What's that manuscript or is it a roll in your avatar?
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It's a depiction of the white ship disaster, dunno why i felt like putting it there.
 
OKAY. Here we go. Deep breath. I’ll just say it: I was wrong.

That wasn’t so bad. I actually feel better now.

Friends will tell you that those words do not trip lightly from my lips. In fact some will now be requiring defibrillation over their morning cereal.

But to continue to maintain a position when faced with mounting evidence to the contrary risks damaging not just your credibility but also your peace of mind, when holding that opinion represents the exact opposite of what you fervently hope will actually be the case.

It wasn’t as if I didn’t want Kenny Dalglish to reclaim the manager’s job; I just wasn’t sure whether this Kenny would be the same one who laid claim to my eternal idolisation as a player and manager between 1977 and 1991.

I shared the doubts expressed in the media about his knowledge of the contemporary game; his lack of experience as a manager in Europe; and whether, at 60, he still had the drive and resources to tackle the undoubtedly testing demands placed on the modern Premier League manager.

I also felt that we were in danger of becoming another Newcastle United, responding to each new crisis with a misplaced nostalgic yearning for former heroes to save us from current tribulations.

But most of all I was scared: scared for Kenny himself, in that returning to the hot seat might rekindle the fears that drove him from the job 20 years ago; and scared that, should he fail, a modern generation of fans might remember him as just another passing manager, rather than the iconic figure who thousands of us regard as the finest player to wear the shirt, and an inspirational manager who built a marvellously entertaining side in the late 80s.

I should have had more faith. His restoration of course immediately healed the growing division between club and fans, and brought to an end the shameful public discontent that marked the end of his predecessor’s reign and made going to the match a painful experience in more ways than one.

Much more difficult would be the marshalling of a mediocre playing staff into a unit which could at least salvage some respectability from the remainder of the season. In achieving this he has undoubtedly been helped by the acquisition of Carroll and, in particular, Luis Suarez, but Kenny’s true achievement has been to improve the contributions made by those still at the club and to introduce new local talent with a zest for the game that has engendered a revitalised team spirit and produced more attractive, enjoyable football. Lucas, Spearing, Kuyt and Meireles have all improved under Kenny; and anyone who can coax a hat-trick out of Maxi Rodriguez must have something going for them.

What comes across loud and clear is that Kenny loves footballers; in turn, they tend to return this affection and want to play for him.

His man-management skills are second to none; all he asks is for his players to display the same passion for the club as he does, and appreciate the privilege of playing for one of the great clubs of world football.

The owners were right to grant Kenny a probationary period but now is the time to acknowledge the will of thousands of supporters, and one chastened columnist, and confirm the return of one of our greatest icons.



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Thirteen MPs have signed a Commons motion calling for Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish to be knighted.

The motion was tabled by Liverpool Walton MP Steve Rotheram because of what he said was his "outstanding contribution" to British football.

Mr Rotheram raised the issue two weeks ago, on the 22nd anniversary of the Hillsborough disaster.

The motion said it would be a "fitting tribute" to the families of the 96 fans who were killed.

Dalglish was manager on 15 April 1989, when the Liverpool fans were crushed to death at an FA Cup semi-final.

He earned gratitude and respect for the way he represented the city and club in the aftermath of the tragedy.

Dalglish, now 60, helped ensure the club was represented at all of the fans' funerals and attended many of them in person.

He resigned as manager of the club in 1991, but returned in January, following the departure of Roy Hodgson.

Mr Rotheram was asked by families of those fans killed to put down an Early Day Motion requesting the honour.

The motion, to be published on Wednesday, has been signed by Labour MPs Derek Twigg Halton; Dave Watts St Helens North ; Maria Eagle Garston & Halewood; Alison McGovern Wirral South; Russell Brown Dumfries & Galloway; Bill Esterson Sefton Central; Stephen Twigg Liverpool West; Luciana Berger Liverpool Wavertree; Louise Ellman Liverpool Riverside; Joe Benton, Bootle; and Clive Betts, Sheffield South East;, as well as Conservative MP Therese Coffey, Suffolk Coastal;, a Liverpool supporter
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I think some of those Labour MPs are from Manchester, in which case fair play to them for signing.
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Mostly local it seems
 
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Kenny praises Joe Cole's work rate in training.
Vinny: Has he (Joe Cole) got the desire though?
Kenny: Has he got the desire? I think you're insulting the boy there.
Vinny: It's more to do with him establishing himself at Liverpool... (Kenny interrupts)
Kenny: When you ask if somebody's got desire, I think you're insulting him.
Kenny: So it's up to you Vinny if you want to insult him. If you want to get yourself in a confrontation with "wee" Joe that's up to you.


LEGEND
 
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He started talking spanish now?
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Fuck wrong vid....
 
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[flash=400,300]http://www.youtube.com/v/4pfd-8mx-Ww&feature=player_embedded[/flash]

Kenny praises Joe Cole's work rate in training.
Vinny: Has he (Joe Cole) got the desire though?
Kenny: Has he got the desire? I think you're insulting the boy there.
Vinny: It's more to do with him establishing himself at Liverpool... (Kenny interrupts)
Kenny: When you ask if somebody's got desire, I think you're insulting him.
Kenny: So it's up to you Vinny if you want to insult him. If you want to get yourself in a confrontation with "wee" Joe that's up to you.


LEGEND

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Fixed.
 
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[flash=400,300]http://www.youtube.com/v/4pfd-8mx-Ww&feature=player_embedded[/flash]

Kenny praises Joe Cole's work rate in training.
Vinny: Has he (Joe Cole) got the desire though?
Kenny: Has he got the desire? I think you're insulting the boy there.
Vinny: It's more to do with him establishing himself at Liverpool... (Kenny interrupts)
Kenny: When you ask if somebody's got desire, I think you're insulting him.
Kenny: So it's up to you Vinny if you want to insult him. If you want to get yourself in a confrontation with "wee" Joe that's up to you.


LEGEND

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Fixed.
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Gracias
 
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[flash=400,300]http://www.youtube.com/v/4pfd-8mx-Ww&feature=player_embedded[/flash]

Kenny praises Joe Cole's work rate in training.
Vinny: Has he (Joe Cole) got the desire though?
Kenny: Has he got the desire? I think you're insulting the boy there.
Vinny: It's more to do with him establishing himself at Liverpool... (Kenny interrupts)
Kenny: When you ask if somebody's got desire, I think you're insulting him.
Kenny: So it's up to you Vinny if you want to insult him. If you want to get yourself in a confrontation with "wee" Joe that's up to you.


LEGEND

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Gracias
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De nada.
 
Wasn't me, that was Andy Proudfoot..

Though I shared many of his initial fears.

I wonde if any of the other dickhead journos are going to follow suit; though they're probably hoping it all goes to shit so they dont have to.
 
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Wasn't me, that was Andy Proudfoot..

Though I shared many of his initial fears.

I wonde if any of the other dickhead journos are going to follow suit; though they're probably hoping it all goes to shit so they dont have to.
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They're probably hoping Kenny does a media boycott ala Fergie.
 
Newcastle captain Kevin Nolan believes Liverpool played a major factor in his emergence as a Barclays Premier League star.


Most Recent News Dalglish: Reunion won't faze him Today: Andy and Jay on LFC TV Houllier discharged from hospital 'Kop reception was incredible' Carra set for new Reds landmark The boyhood red will line up for the Magpies in Sunday's clash at Anfield and he admits a return to the club where it all began is always a special occasion for him.

"I was with Liverpool for about four years, between the age of six and 10, I think," said Nolan. "I went to Bolton, and the rest is history, as they say.

"I knew a lot of people who were there, like (former youth team coach) Steve Heighway, but they've all left now. There's a few more who are still there.

"It's a great club. I enjoyed my time there. They looked after me as a youngster really well, and I thank them for that. They probably set me on my way to going to Bolton with all the technical stuff, and where I am today.

"It's always a proud moment captaining Newcastle United, but it'll be extra special at Anfield.

"I just hope we can do ourselves proud and get a result on the day."

Meanwhile, Toon boss Alan Pardew has revealed his admiration for the way Dalglish has re-established Liverpool as a force following his return to the dugout.

Pardew said: "They've always had great players, but something wasn't quite right.

"The management have put that right - they've instilled the Liverpool way."
 
Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish has refused to speculate on what the club could have achieved this season had he been appointed sooner.

Yesterday's 3-0 win over Newcastle lifted the Reds up to fifth - ahead of Tottenham on goal difference - and their highest place of the current campaign.

Since Dalglish replaced Roy Hodgson in early January with the club in 12th place the transformation has been nothing short of remarkable.

The Scot has taken 30 points from 15 matches, with his unbeaten home record showing six wins and two draws in the Barclays Premier League.

Such results point to the folly, albeit with hindsight, of overlooking the former player for a second stint as manager when Rafael Benitez departed last summer.

Hodgson was, of course, the choice of the deposed regime of Tom Hicks and George Gillett even though Dalglish had made himself available and some may argue even his six months in charge was too long.

But the current incumbent was keen to avoid getting into a debate about potential scenarios had he ridden to the club's rescue sooner than he did.

"I would rather the 'What if?' was if I had never taken charge," he said.

"Because it would have meant they (the players) were doing a lot better than what we were, still have had the same run and the club would have been more successful than what it is at this moment in time.

"That's the 'What if?' for me."
 
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Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish has refused to speculate on what the club could have achieved this season had he been appointed sooner.

Yesterday's 3-0 win over Newcastle lifted the Reds up to fifth - ahead of Tottenham on goal difference - and their highest place of the current campaign.

Since Dalglish replaced Roy Hodgson in early January with the club in 12th place the transformation has been nothing short of remarkable.

The Scot has taken 30 points from 15 matches, with his unbeaten home record showing six wins and two draws in the Barclays Premier League.

Such results point to the folly, albeit with hindsight, of overlooking the former player for a second stint as manager when Rafael Benitez departed last summer.

Hodgson was, of course, the choice of the deposed regime of Tom Hicks and George Gillett even though Dalglish had made himself available and some may argue even his six months in charge was too long.

But the current incumbent was keen to avoid getting into a debate about potential scenarios had he ridden to the club's rescue sooner than he did.

"I would rather the 'What if?' was if I had never taken charge," he said.

"Because it would have meant they (the players) were doing a lot better than what we were, still have had the same run and the club would have been more successful than what it is at this moment in time.

"That's the 'What if?' for me."
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Yeah I read this last night, what a legend, totally dignified and modest.
 
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