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Dalglish “watches†£18m Belgian starlet

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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42453.msg1206851#msg1206851 date=1288190004]
does he play left or right wing?
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Both, but I've usually seen him on the left as he is two footed (no fucking smart comments!)
 
I've seen him come on a couple of time in the Europa League, and even then I noticed him cos the commentators were bigging him up rather than me thinking he was amazing.
 
As Ryan said in another thread anything over £10 million is optimistic. If anything we need to flog a few players in January to help balance the books.
 
No Thanks.
Lightweight and lazy. He thinks hes a world beater and does fuck all in training sesions.
Thats why hes been dropped at Lille.
 
Why spend £18M on potential when we can spend £12M on proven talent like Defour.

Clearout the deadwood. Isn't Lucas rumoured to be off to Inter in January. Meireles and Defour in the centre of the park would brilliant. 2 of Young, Affelay or Hazard.

That brings whole new dimension to the club.
 
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[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=42453.msg1206862#msg1206862 date=1288190793]
No Thanks.
Lightweight and lazy. He thinks hes a world beater and does fuck all in training sesions.
Thats why hes been dropped at Lille.
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If this true, I cannot see the Americans sanctioning £18M aside for Hazard.

They'll look elsewhere.
 
I think Defour will be our main target.

I don't think Hodgson rates Lucas particularly highly and he cannot have been impressed by Poulsen so far.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42453.msg1206866#msg1206866 date=1288192180]
I think Defour will be our main target.

I don't think Hodgson rates Lucas particularly highly and he cannot have been impressed by Poulsen so far.
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I agree, Hodgson clearly isnt too fussed with Lucas, if we could flog him and get Defour that would be aces!

Afellay is my pick over Hazard.
 
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=42453.msg1206836#msg1206836 date=1288188434]
The lightweight argument should be shot down once and for all. There are so many players we've branded as lightweight that has taken the Premiership with ease.
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No it shouldn't. Some players are lightweight and they work very hard to overcome that. Others don't.
 
[quote author=keniget link=topic=42453.msg1206823#msg1206823 date=1288186804]
He's no doubt talented, but the risks are that he's very lightweight and has a pretty nothing goals record.

We'd have a job on our hands to develop his potential.
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His final ball needs a lot of work too.
 
[quote author=Peatcheo link=topic=42453.msg1206869#msg1206869 date=1288192410]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42453.msg1206866#msg1206866 date=1288192180]
I think Defour will be our main target.

I don't think Hodgson rates Lucas particularly highly and he cannot have been impressed by Poulsen so far.
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I agree, Hodgson clearly isnt too fussed with Lucas, if we could flog him and get Defour that would be aces!

Afellay is my pick over Hazard.
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Haven't seen much of Hazard, but Afellay is class. So good on either side and he has the composure of any decent striker. He'll be at another big club soon unless we sign him up.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42453.msg1206873#msg1206873 date=1288192931]
[quote author=Peatcheo link=topic=42453.msg1206869#msg1206869 date=1288192410]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42453.msg1206866#msg1206866 date=1288192180]
I think Defour will be our main target.

I don't think Hodgson rates Lucas particularly highly and he cannot have been impressed by Poulsen so far.
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I agree, Hodgson clearly isnt too fussed with Lucas, if we could flog him and get Defour that would be aces!

Afellay is my pick over Hazard.
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Haven't seen much of Hazard, but Afellay is class. So good on either side and he has the composure of any decent striker. He'll be at another big club soon unless we sign him up.
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As someone said I dont want another signing we kick ourselves over because of either dilly-dallying or being over cautious, with a player like Afellay yes its a gamble but if it comes off we will have some talent on our hands.
 
Being 19, Hazard has a couple of years to get everything "right" though.

There is so much talent there, that the right manager would make him a superstar. Why not at Liverpool..
 
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=42453.msg1206877#msg1206877 date=1288193181]
Being 19, Hazard has a couple of years to get everything "right" though.

There is so much talent there, that the right manager would make him a superstar. Why not at Liverpool..
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Ryan Babel.
 
I've just been watching Goals of the 70's and 80's on the LFC Channel.

Its obvious we need Perms and 'Tash's, to get the best out of our Players.

Is there anyone decent with a Perm an Tash going??

Who would suit a Perm and Tash in our current set-up?

I bet Lucas would turn into Souness with a proper Perm 'n tash makeover!
 
[quote author=Peatcheo link=topic=42453.msg1206875#msg1206875 date=1288193123]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42453.msg1206873#msg1206873 date=1288192931]
[quote author=Peatcheo link=topic=42453.msg1206869#msg1206869 date=1288192410]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42453.msg1206866#msg1206866 date=1288192180]
I think Defour will be our main target.

I don't think Hodgson rates Lucas particularly highly and he cannot have been impressed by Poulsen so far.
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I agree, Hodgson clearly isnt too fussed with Lucas, if we could flog him and get Defour that would be aces!

Afellay is my pick over Hazard.
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Haven't seen much of Hazard, but Afellay is class. So good on either side and he has the composure of any decent striker. He'll be at another big club soon unless we sign him up.
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As someone said I dont want another signing we kick ourselves over because of either dilly-dallying or being over cautious, with a player like Afellay yes its a gamble but if it comes off we will have some talent on our hands.
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He's less of a gamble than Hazard, IMO. He'll cost less, certainly, and he's a feisty, strong lad who will work in the Premiership. In many regards he's like Adam Johnson - who has been class since his move to City - but a bit quicker. I remember seeing his first ever goal for PSV in 2006/2007; someone squared it off to him after mazy run, and he curled into the top corner from 25 yards with only his second touch of the ball. Awesome.
 
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=42453.msg1206878#msg1206878 date=1288193232]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=42453.msg1206877#msg1206877 date=1288193181]
Being 19, Hazard has a couple of years to get everything "right" though.

There is so much talent there, that the right manager would make him a superstar. Why not at Liverpool..
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Ryan Babel.
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Ha! Eden Hazard is nothing like Ryan Babel mate..
 
A team boasting some of Europe's top young talent, the likes of Arsenal's Thomas Vermaelen, Lille's Eden Hazard, Manchester City's Vincent Kompany, Marouane Fellaini of Everton and Axel Witsel and Steven Defour of Standard Liège should be seen with more regularity at major competitions. However, it would appear that the players are part of the problem.

Seemingly unable to gel, the dressing room has reportedly ''divided into factions''. Newspaper La Dernière Heure was told last month by an 'insider' that: "There is the [Daniel] van Buyten clan, the France-based players, the trio of [Timmy] Simons, Sonck and [Stijn] Stijnen, the guys from Amsterdam, the guys from AZ, and then, of course, the Standard and Anderlecht factions."

Goalkeeper Stijnen, however, is no longer part of the divide as he announced his retirement from international football at the age of 28. However, his reasons for leaving appear to shine an even brighter light on the problems within the squad.

"I am very proud that I have represented Belgium 30 times,'' he said at a press conference to announce his decision. ''Nevertheless, too many players are not thinking about Belgium. They only care about themselves and about their clubs. Some people have said things about me behind my back that are simply unacceptable."

The fall-out from the reigns of Vandereycken and Vercauteren also saw the entire medical staff resign. ''The mentality of some of the players is deplorable,'' former national team doctor Marc Goossens told the Guardian. ''We got fed up with the many intolerable things that made it impossible for us to do our jobs... they are pseudo-stars... with the sick attitude of childish snobs."


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Marouane Fellaini and coach Dick Advocaat are on a collision course.
Belgian officials are hopeful that Advocaat has the man-management skills to turn the situation around. His first game in charge, a 2-0 win over Turkey, appeared to have stopped the rot - as they picked up their first win in eight games - but the subsequent weeks brought yet another player scuffle into the spotlight.

Clashing with Everton's big-haired midfielder Marouane Fellaini over a dental appointment that saw him miss the final (albeit pointless) qualifier with Estonia, Advocaat may be attempting to make an example of the 21-year-old, for what he perceives to be a general attitude problem within the camp, but it does not do much for the portrayal of the national team in the media.

''Fellaini did not do a good thing for me,'' Advocaat was quoted as saying. ''Sometimes, these things can happen in football but, in my opinion, it was not appropriate conduct for a player with a national team. It seems to me that there are one or two players in the squad who place themselves above the rest, and I am working to put that right."

Having only been in charge for just over a month, Advocaat already knows the problems he faces to turn Belgium around. One would expect that he'll have until the end of the 2012 European Championship qualifiers, at least, to make sure that a country that was once viewed as the dark horse of Europe is back where it belongs; although changing the attitude of an entire generation of footballers will be no easy task.
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[quote author=Hansern link=topic=42453.msg1206881#msg1206881 date=1288193654]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=42453.msg1206878#msg1206878 date=1288193232]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=42453.msg1206877#msg1206877 date=1288193181]
Being 19, Hazard has a couple of years to get everything "right" though.

There is so much talent there, that the right manager would make him a superstar. Why not at Liverpool..
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Ryan Babel.
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Ha! Eden Hazard is nothing like Ryan Babel mate..
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Point remains though. Like I said before, you're still talking about unproven potential, I just don't think we can

a) afford to take that risk
b) be patient enough to ease a young player into the first team

We need people who can come into the first team immediately
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42453.msg1206866#msg1206866 date=1288192180]
I think Defour will be our main target.

I don't think Hodgson rates Lucas particularly highly and he cannot have been impressed by Poulsen so far.
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Defour who done the whole 'I want to play for Utd' bit the other day?
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42453.msg1206866#msg1206866 date=1288192180]
I think Defour will be our main target.

I don't think Hodgson rates Lucas particularly highly and he cannot have been impressed by Poulsen so far.
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More performances from Lucas like Blackburn he may always change his mind on that..lad played well. For once.
 
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=42453.msg1206886#msg1206886 date=1288194109]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42453.msg1206866#msg1206866 date=1288192180]
I think Defour will be our main target.

I don't think Hodgson rates Lucas particularly highly and he cannot have been impressed by Poulsen so far.
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Defour who done a while 'I want to play for Utd' bit the other day?
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Hopefully.

'Boyhood Reds' are shit.
 
I think Young might really be available this winter if we push for it. He is unhappy at Villa and would welcome a move to a club with higher ambitions. It would be a perfect marquee signing for the NEW yanks as he doesn't need to adapt and he can go right into the position we are the most lacking at. Plus he'll pin back the other teams RB and maybe even RW because he has so much pace and such a good cross leaving our LB a little less hung out to dry. In other words we should be spending our first bit of money on a proven talent even though I love the idea of Hazard. I'd be much happier with Young or even Mata though. (if we could get Shweinsteiger with one or two wingers we would be set in the attacking department for any decent manager and I would start looking for that Carra replacement pronto.)
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42453.msg1206891#msg1206891 date=1288195019]
we did succeed with babel but we can't let that scare us off of signing quality talent.
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Sorry ?
 
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=42453.msg1206887#msg1206887 date=1288194207]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42453.msg1206866#msg1206866 date=1288192180]
I think Defour will be our main target.

I don't think Hodgson rates Lucas particularly highly and he cannot have been impressed by Poulsen so far.
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More performances from Lucas like Blackburn he may always change his mind on that..lad played well. For once.
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He seems to do that against just really poor teams though.

He was pretty good against Robotics too.
 
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=42453.msg1206904#msg1206904 date=1288196931]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42453.msg1206891#msg1206891 date=1288195019]
we did succeed with babel but we can't let that scare us off of signing quality talent.
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Sorry ?

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sorry. 'didn't'.
 
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