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Dalglish “watches†£18m Belgian starlet

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[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=42453.msg1207385#msg1207385 date=1288271322]
Haha, I believe his family is from Africa(Congo or Ghana?) but he's been born and bred in Belgium so shouldn't be any worries about that.
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He's born in the same country my dad was ... Congo, though it had a different name when me dad was born there.
 
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[quote author=peterhague link=topic=42453.msg1207340#msg1207340 date=1288268184]
how come belgium are suddenly producing all these quality players?

we should go for all 3 of them, hazard, lukaku and defour - all of them would plug holes in our squad. it'd be a big investment, obv, but they all look dead certs to be top players, so minimal risk, and spread over a decade.
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I believe they started investing heavily on youth development after their national team went into decline. It is surely paying dividends now as their national team is full of young talent and even the biggest stars are mostly in their mid twenties. They'll have a really strong team in five years or so.

Hazard, Lukaku and Defour would be excellent piece of business. Also if it wouldn't work out for any one of them we could recoup most of the fee by selling him on so there's almost no risk at all. 8)
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They won't at all. This is a team full of prima-donna's who are already under performing by not even making it to international tournaments. Like England, they're just not as good as they think they are, and none of them give a damn about the national team.
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Reaching major tournaments is very hard from pot 4 where they have been recently. Especially with such a young team. They also had a very tough group in world cup qualifiers with Spain, Turkey and Bosnia and now they have Germany and Turkey. They do need a good manager to fulfill their potential though.

Are you sure about not giving a damn about the national team? I've always been under the impression that national team is a very big thing for Belgian footballers and fans alike. It has also always been one of the unifying things between the French and Dutch speaking parts so can't see a problem from that part either.
 
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[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=42453.msg1207385#msg1207385 date=1288271322]
Haha, I believe his family is from Africa(Congo or Ghana?) but he's been born and bred in Belgium so shouldn't be any worries about that.
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He's born in the same country my dad was ... Congo, though it had a different name when me dad was born there.
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Really? Had to check Wikipedia and it says he was born in Antwerp, is the mighty Wikipedia wrong on this one?
 
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[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=42453.msg1207460#msg1207460 date=1288276236]
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=42453.msg1207385#msg1207385 date=1288271322]
Haha, I believe his family is from Africa(Congo or Ghana?) but he's been born and bred in Belgium so shouldn't be any worries about that.
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He's born in the same country my dad was ... Congo, though it had a different name when me dad was born there.
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Really? Had to check Wikipedia and it says he was born in Antwerp, is the mighty Wikipedia wrong on this one?
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He was born in Belgium - his family is from DRC, Zaire, Belgian Congo - whatever you wnat to call it! 😉
 
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=42453.msg1207488#msg1207488 date=1288278016]
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=42453.msg1207463#msg1207463 date=1288276462]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=42453.msg1207460#msg1207460 date=1288276236]
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=42453.msg1207385#msg1207385 date=1288271322]
Haha, I believe his family is from Africa(Congo or Ghana?) but he's been born and bred in Belgium so shouldn't be any worries about that.
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He's born in the same country my dad was ... Congo, though it had a different name when me dad was born there.
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Really? Had to check Wikipedia and it says he was born in Antwerp, is the mighty Wikipedia wrong on this one?
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He was born in Belgium - his family is from DRC, Zaire, Belgian Congo - whatever you wnat to call it! 😉
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So your dad was also born in Belgium?
 
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=42453.msg1207371#msg1207371 date=1288270530]
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=42453.msg1207351#msg1207351 date=1288269344]
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=42453.msg1207340#msg1207340 date=1288268184]
how come belgium are suddenly producing all these quality players?

we should go for all 3 of them, hazard, lukaku and defour - all of them would plug holes in our squad. it'd be a big investment, obv, but they all look dead certs to be top players, so minimal risk, and spread over a decade.
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I believe they started investing heavily on youth development after their national team went into decline. It is surely paying dividends now as their national team is full of young talent and even the biggest stars are mostly in their mid twenties. They'll have a really strong team in five years or so.

Hazard, Lukaku and Defour would be excellent piece of business. Also if it wouldn't work out for any one of them we could recoup most of the fee by selling him on so there's almost no risk at all. 8)
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yep, it looks too good to be true, really. must be a catch somewhere
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Yep. They're fucking Belgian.
 
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[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=42453.msg1207488#msg1207488 date=1288278016]
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=42453.msg1207463#msg1207463 date=1288276462]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=42453.msg1207460#msg1207460 date=1288276236]
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=42453.msg1207385#msg1207385 date=1288271322]
Haha, I believe his family is from Africa(Congo or Ghana?) but he's been born and bred in Belgium so shouldn't be any worries about that.
[/quote]

He's born in the same country my dad was ... Congo, though it had a different name when me dad was born there.
[/quote]

Really? Had to check Wikipedia and it says he was born in Antwerp, is the mighty Wikipedia wrong on this one?
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He was born in Belgium - his family is from DRC, Zaire, Belgian Congo - whatever you wnat to call it! 😉
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So your dad was also born in Belgium?
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I erred - I meant to say his family is where my dad is from ... not him. He's Belgi Belgi
 
The more I think about it, if recent history has taught us anything it's that Chelsea will get Lukaku, Man Utd will get Defour and we'll get Hazard.

Hazard will be shit and we'll spend years saying "If only we'd just signed one of the other Belgians that summer."
 
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=42453.msg1207559#msg1207559 date=1288291460]
The more I think about it, if recent history has taught us anything it's that Chelsea will get Lukaku, Man Utd will get Defour and we'll get Hazard.

Hazard will be shit and we'll spend years saying "If only we'd just signed one of the other Belgians that summer."
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That's so true, Gene!

*cries*
 
Re: Dalglish “watches” £18m Belgian starlet

[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=42453.msg1207559#msg1207559 date=1288291460]
The more I think about it, if recent history has taught us anything it's that Chelsea will get Lukaku, Man Utd will get Defour and we'll get Hazard.

Hazard will be shit and we'll spend years saying "If only we'd just signed one of the other Belgians that summer."
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If history has taught us anything, we'll probably get someone like Arshavin, and Hazard will end up terrorising defences at Arsenal, where his skill will fit right in. Andre will, like Cole (I hope I'm wrong) and Kewell before him, end up being remembered for better things at their former club.

For once, lets just go for the exciting guy, and see what happens. I'm fucking sick of either (a) workmanlike (b) fast or (c) veterans who 'know' the premiership.
 
I'd be pretty excited if we signed Arshavin TBH. If nothing else, it would stop him stuffing us up when we play the Gooners.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42453.msg1207568#msg1207568 date=1288292220]
I'd be pretty excited if we signed Arshavin TBH. If nothing else, it would stop him stuffing us up when we play the Gooners.
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He'll be 30 in May though, we need to start building for 5 years from now. Personally I'd want the majority of new players to be between 18 and 24 - we won't have a quick fix to this situation, so lets build for the future.

Younger manager, younger players, and make an exciting team that will challenge year in year out.
 
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