Curtis Jones - Under Rated?

[RedStar]

I don't have a problem with him being benched for a bit, he's clearly got a bit of an attitude about him and that has to be tempered by the coaches reining him in when they feel it's required.

Long term I'm not sure where he fits into a Klopp 4-3-3, I don't think he's quick enough to play as one of the wide fowards, which means either the false 9 position or at CM in one of the more advanced spots. CM is probably more likely because it's the weakest area of our squad competing with Keita and Ox. I don't think he's a direct competitor to Fabinho Henderson or Thiago really as they are much more holding midfielders than box to box runners.

I can only assume letting Gini go was based partly on the belief that we had enough depth in the squad to cover his contributions. That likely means more game time for Jones and Elliot. He will certainly get games

 

[RedStar]

I don't have a problem with him being benched for a bit, he's clearly got a bit of an attitude about him and that has to be tempered by the coaches reining him in when they feel it's required.

Long term I'm not sure where he fits into a Klopp 4-3-3, I don't think he's quick enough to play as one of the wide fowards, which means either the false 9 position or at CM in one of the more advanced spots. CM is probably more likely because it's the weakest area of our squad competing with Keita and Ox. I don't think he's a direct competitor to Fabinho Henderson or Thiago really as they are much more holding midfielders than box to box runners.

I can only assume letting Gini go was based partly on the belief that we had enough depth in the squad to cover his contributions. That likely means more game time for Jones and Elliot. He will certainly get games but he's at a critical point is his development, he's not a kid anymore he needs to show some maturity and push on or he will find Elliot and Gordon ahead of him in the queue

 

[mark1975]

I don't mind him, he's clearly got a bit of quality and is good (and strong) on the ball. He could probably do a similar job to Gini in the long term. But I'd rather at this stage and gauging the type of players we already have in midfield, use someone like Elliott, who's more direct and exciting a prospect.

There's nothing to suggest he can't have a future here, but he needs to learn and he needs to have a bit more of a defined role, than just making up the numbers in midfield.

The issue for me is that we look at his peers, players like Mount and Foden and he's nowhere near the same level of quality. So while he's been championed as one of the next big things and someone who can be called on to do a job, I don't think anyone is particularly shitting themselves at the prospect of facing him.

 

[Hyena]

I remember him mouthing off at the other young players. Didn't quite sit right in my book.

 

[Dreambeliever]

Huge fan of Curtis, surprised so many are dismissing him this quickly.

 

[binomial]

I remember him mouthing off at the other young players. Didn't quite sit right in my book.

Was that when he was sent off in the England u21 game?

 

[tomasjj]

I remember him mouthing off at the other young players. Didn't quite sit right in my book.

straight out of gerrard's book as a player that
it is a fine balance - ambition - arrogance

 

[Aidan O' Neill]

He's a gobshite

In what way?

 

[binomial]

In what way?

He's a scowwwwwww-saaaaaaah laaaaaad.

That's the sayin init, all scousers are gobshites.

 

[Halmeister]

In what way?

Just look at him

 

[Aidan O' Neill]

Just look at him

Just that? That's it?

 

[Modo]

Klopp mentioned him in the press conference.
Basically said that Jones has to step up.

 

[Halmeister]

Just that? That's it?

Little rumours I've heard about his attitude, and little isolated incidents here and there. But yeah, just look at him and his demeanour. I think he seriously needs to sort himself out if he wants to improve and become a regular in this team. Plus, I also don't think he's THAT good.

 

[Aidan O' Neill]

Little rumours I've heard about his attitude, and little isolated incidents here and there. But yeah, just look at him and his demeanour. I think he seriously needs to sort himself out if he wants to improve and become a regular in this team. Plus, I also don't think he's THAT good.

That's a bit different from he's a gobshite because he looks like one. Hopefully they're not true because he is talented, but you don't get in a Klopp team without attitude and a ridiculously high work rate.

 

[Halmeister]

That's a bit different from he's a gobshite because he looks like one. Hopefully they're not true because he is talented, but you don't get in a Klopp team without attitude and a ridiculously high work rate.

He also does look like a gobshite, like.

 

[binomial]

Klopp mentioned him in the press conference.
Basically said that Jones has to step up.

& what if he don't?

Not like we're signing anyone to push him out the squad are we.

 

[Modo]

& what if he don't?

Not like we're signing anyone to push him out the squad are we.

We don't need to.

 

[Richey]

Worth remembering that whatever plan there was for Jones, the reality was different. Our midfield was wrecked for most of last season for various reasons. The guy came in, probably played more games than he otherwise would, doing jobs in the team that he might otherwise not have done, and he actually did pretty well - scored a few, set up a few, generally didn't look out of place.

He does need to push on a bit more this season for sure but hopefully he can have a chance to do that in a team that is doing well.

 

[Hyena]

Was that when he was sent off in the England u21 game?

Ah there we go.

Just one example, but he clearly thinks of himself as the top of his class etc

 

[Richey]

Ah there we go.

Just one example, but he clearly thinks of himself as the top of his class etc

I'm not saying that Jones isn't a cocky little shit at times but I strongly suspect that Harvey Elliott is too.

 

[Modo]

I'm not saying that Jones isn't a cocky little shit at times but I strongly suspect that Harvey Elliott is too.

Nah, Harry might look it, but to me he seems more like the Beckham type.
Curtis is straight up chav.

 

[tomasjj]

I like Curtis, but if you are a bit of a gobshite, you have to back it up on the pitch.
I loved how Martinez tried to unsettle him for his pen against the arse, and he made him a fool and told him off after.

 

[Molbystwin]

I’ve not rated the fella tbh... and yes I noticed Redmen Tv giving it a bit much...

Mind you I still haven’t forgiven him for a wank header which gave West Brom an equalizer last season and began the horrific slide, mind you perhaps blaming him is harsh as Klopp shudda taken him off earlier.

Maybe good enough for a mid table team... maybe...

 

[Molbystwin]

He does look good on the ball but it’s what you do with it that counts…he doesn’t do an awful lot.

should have read this earlier... yep... couldn’t agree more... cracker against Everton tho

 

[binomial]

should have read this earlier... yep... couldn’t agree more... cracker against Everton tho

It was a cracker….How many times can you say that about him in all the other games he’s played though.

It’ll be interesting to see how many games he gets with Harvey bursting on the scene

 

[Modo]

"Aston Villa 'prepare £15million offer for Liverpool's Curtis Jones"
- Daily fail

Up it to £20 mill and sell.

 

[Dreambeliever]

"Aston Villa 'prepare £15million offer for Liverpool's Curtis Jones"
- Daily fail

Up it to £20 mill and sell.

I’d hate to sell him and most definitely not for that.

 

[Modo]

I’d hate to sell him and most definitely not for that.

Get some performance based add ons as well

 

[Dreambeliever]

Get some performance based add ons as well

Still feels wrong to me. We won’t get anything near as good for 20m

 

[Modo]

Still feels wrong to me. We won’t get anything near as good for 20m

I just don't think he's "that" good