Covid-19 & Football

[gkmacca]

Apparently an even more dubious reason for clubs opposing neutral grounds is the fact they've got sponsored stadia and those with naming rights are complaining about the diminished exposure. Maybe someone could write things like 'Amex,' 'Emirates' or 'King Power' with a crayon on a bit of card and stick them on the empty seats.

By the way, has anyone spotted Clyne on those zoom video meetings LFC keep showing? I don't know what secret ban he's got, or if he's just been ostracised, but what the hell has he been doing this year?

 

[Judge Jules]

Might he (sadly) be flat on his back somewhere toked out of his skull?

 

[MomoWASright]

Apparently an even more dubious reason for clubs opposing neutral grounds is the fact they've got sponsored stadia and those with naming rights are complaining about the diminished exposure. Maybe someone could write things like 'Amex,' 'Emirates' or 'King Power' with a crayon on a bit of card and stick them on the empty seats.

By the way, has anyone spotted Clyne on those zoom video meetings LFC keep showing? I don't know what secret ban he's got, or if he's just been ostracised, but what the hell has he been doing this year?

That could be it. Those who do go down will want as much cash as possible to mitigate their loss in income. They’ll want to squeeze every last drop of sponsorship out of their time in the premier league.

 

[MomoWASright]

If there are 22 teams then surely the TV deal was struck with 20 teams in mind so does this not mean a seperate deal would be needed for this 22 team Premiere League format...?

And the 75% of broadcasting rights is also largue due to the extra teams...?

Or am I getting this wrong...?

Sky and BT would have a signed a contract for X billions of £s to show X number of games. I doubt the number of teams has anything to do with it. I also doubt they would appreciate the premier league asking for 10% more next season because the league can’t get their own house in order.

I could be wrong as I’m no contract expert.

 

[jon545660]

If the broadcasters have to put games on free-to-air as well, there would be financial implications to their 'exclusive' deals surely?

 

[MomoWASright]

Yep. They’ll get first pick of each week’s ties but that could be part of the £350 million payback to broadcasters.

 

[Brizzle]

If the broadcasters have to put games on free-to-air as well, there would be financial implications to their 'exclusive' deals surely?

I'm sure there is a pretty epic trade off for additional ad revenue though if they go free to air

 

[gkmacca]

Might he (sadly) be flat on his back somewhere toked out of his skull?

I do wonder! What a strange saga it's been.

 

[gkmacca]

Yep. They’ll get first pick of each week’s ties but that could be part of the £350 million payback to broadcasters.

I think the suggested payback to broadcasters is pretty objectionable, at least at that sum. Clubs are being told to play in exceptional circumstances, so I don't see why broadcasters shouldn't be told to broadcast in exceptional circumstances.

The clubs aren't being compensated for the loss of match day revenue, are they?, nor are they for the loss of home advantage, and yet they're also being asked to take a massive hit in terms of broadcasting rights (and the broadcasters, outrageously, are expecting additional access, into dressing rooms and at half time, to make up for the fact that they're, er, getting these games on the cheap). Talk about chutzpah!

The broadcasters paid for a certain number of games, they'll get that number of games, so I don't see why they should withhold any money, let alone half. They say that because the games will be at different locations and without fans, it's a 'different product'. Well, it is for everyone involved. The broadcasters need a reality check.

 

[MomoWASright]

It is mad to think they get payback for not having the product they want. Especially when it’s the government stating crowds are not allowed.

Are the clubs going down the “don’t bite the hand that feeds you” route?

 

[SummerOnions]

If it becomes points per game let's see which clubs are suddenly eager to play

 

[gkmacca]

It is mad to think they get payback for not having the product they want. Especially when it’s the government stating crowds are not allowed.

Are the clubs going down the “don’t bite the hand that feeds you” route?

That kind of loss would obviously only further undermine the chances of even the top clubs bringing new big names and fresh talent to the league next season (whenever that is), which in turn would probably prompt the likes of Sky to moan about the stagnation of the game. Hardly any parties seem able or willing to think things through.

 

[HC]

Bringing in new talent would be the least of 75% of prem sides problems when saddled with an additional £350m debt.

Poor the everton...

 

[Frogfish]

It is mad to think they get payback for not having the product they want. ........

Surely this must come down to the fine print and if either party thought to specify where games were to be played and whether that included crowds or not. If not then the claws come out.

 

[MomoWASright]

I have read something it’s about delivery times of “the product” as everything is late and they are missing out on peak audiences. None of this is the clubs fault but most likely is in the fine print.

Us pissing away with the league also won’t help. They’d want a tense finish at the top. They’ll have to hope for a tight relegation finish.

 

[gkmacca]

I have read something it’s about delivery times of “the product” as everything is late and they are missing out on peak audiences. None of this is the clubs fault but most likely is in the fine print.
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It's ridiculous because they'l have a huge captive audience impatient to watch the bloody stuff, with an unprecedented opportunity to haul in new subscribers if the odd game is made to free to air. They'll get better viewing figures, and far better advertisng revenue, than normal.

 

[MomoWASright]

I fully agree. Subscriptions would most likely shoot up if nobody can go the game or even the pub to watch it. Even if they offered a PPV model for certain games they’d make a fortune.

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The penalties will be due because they would not be able to fulfil particular obligations from their contracts with the TV companies.

They involve the delivery of the product and, principally, the timing of it. The season would not be able to restart until mid-June, at best, meaning that the broadcasters’ preferred slots would have been missed. There is also the issue of how the matches would look without fans – a government stipulation if they are to take place. Again, this was not what the broadcasters signed up to.
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[Frogfish]

I have read something it’s about delivery times of “the product” as everything is late and they are missing out on peak audiences. None of this is the clubs fault but most likely is in the fine print.

Us pissing away with the league also won’t help. They’d want a tense finish at the top. They’ll have to hope for a tight relegation finish.

Not sure how they could be missing out on peak audiences and no doubt there are a few force majeure clauses in there too to cover such eventualities (protecting both sides). The only way advertisers wouldn't be delighted is if the shops were closed so people can't go buy their products - but with cash burning a hole in people's pockets I doubt that's an issue either !

 

[The Nomad]

Khan has said London shouldn't even think about hosting football matches. As has fat Joe about Liverpool.

Danny 'always hard done by' Rose has said he doesn't want the season to restart, and its 'ridiculous' to even talk about it.

Ugh.

 

[gkmacca]

The only way advertisers wouldn't be delighted is if the shops were closed so people can't go buy their products - but with cash burning a hole in people's pockets I doubt that's an issue either !

It will be a mini World Cup as far as the supermarkets are concerned: 'bargain' widescreen TVs (programmed to go kaput in about seven months) will be flying out of the building, beers and burgers and bbqs will go the same way. The idea anyone on the broadcasting side, along with the shops, will suffer is crazy. The clubs will suffer, greedy lumpenproletarian-exploiting bastards that they've been in the past. The clubs can complain for many reasons so long as they suppress any moral sense, but the broadcasters - blimey, they need to STFU.

 

[rurikbird]

 

[tombrown]

As someone on Twitter pointed out - there cant be many other things that would have a positive impact on a fifth of the population. 'Cept of course a fucking royal wedding ..

 

[binomial]

We really need to determine how big a risk resuming football will cause on top of the situation today.

Surely through most the 90 mins players will be at least 2 metres apart? & It's not as if you'll be touching any hard surfaces with you're bare hands.

Maybe scrap corners? I don't know.

 

[6TimesaRed]

If there are 22 teams then surely the TV deal was struck with 20 teams in mind so does this not mean a seperate deal would be needed for this 22 team Premiere League format...?

And the 75% of broadcasting rights is also largue due to the extra teams...?

Or am I getting this wrong...?

You would expect Every game to be shown on TV next season.. given they will be played behind closed doors

They would have to, to appease the fans.. Be as a way to recoup lost revenue.

I suspect Clubs will offer TV season tickets to fans, via TV companies or something on those lines, or viewed via clubs own TV channels or the club's website

Exclusive games will continue to be shown via normal avenues as part of the original TV deal I Suspect..

Id imagine clubs would be keen to do it via their own channels or website, as it is an opportunity to also sell their own merchandise.

 

[MomoWASright]

I’d fucking love it if we could buy tv season tickets. I know it is great having access to watch other teams but I only have interest in our games and city’s when we were in a title race.

 

[6TimesaRed]

I’d fucking love it if we could buy tv season tickets. I know it is great having access to watch other teams but I only have interest in our games and city’s when we were in a title race.

I think it has to happen for next season, as a way forward to play football through this pandemic..

Clubs could become inventive and introduce chat, similar to what you see on facebook.. for fan interaction

Obviously there should be an option to turn in off..

Or similar to what Liverpool do now.. behind the scenes build up etc etc..

Plenty of potential here.. you would totally imagine clubs exploring them right now for next season..

At the end of the day, football without fans is nothing.. Clubs know this . They will need to find new ways to exploit its fanbase..

 

[The Nomad]

Fat Joe has said 'everyone must work together.. even if it means playing at neutral venues'

Loosely translated as. Yes play football. Just not in Liverpool.

 

[Lippy]

Fat Joe has said 'everyone must work together.. even if it means playing at neutral venues'

Loosely translated as. Yes play football. Just not in Liverpool.

In all fairness you just know there'll be some whoppers trying to get outside Anfield if we were playing. Because there'll always be a thick as fuck element in every clubs fanbase

 

[Hansern]

Tage will be standing on a wheelie bin trying to see something, thats for sure.

 

[Judge Jules]

I've wheelie bin wondering about that myself.